Don't Like It? Why Not Just Leave?

[Antilon]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/1 ... 02728.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/2 ... 85432.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/1 ... 97836.html
http://articles.boston.com/2011-11-16/n ... protesters
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/komo/art ... 271197.php

Just an "incident" huh?

Several incidents. In interactions as often as these, with the unruliness that the OWS brings with them, a few slip ups are to expected.

Lol, when someone mentions police brutality, you say it's only an "incident."

Just occasionally pepper-sprayed and beaten.

I love how an incident = a trend.

But when it's shown to be have happened regularly, they're still just "several incidents."

Just give up, man. Don't do this to yourself, I thought you had a reputation for being honest.

[Forster Keys]

Well not compared to Melbourne...

Honestly, why would people live anywhere else?

But really, I don't see a reason for people under 65 or over 12 to move to the Gold Coast.

Where were you visiting from?

Melbourne.

Haha, I could say the same about my hometown.

[Meowfoundland]

Honestly, why would people live anywhere else?

But really, I don't see a reason for people under 65 or over 12 to move to the Gold Coast.



Melbourne.

Haha, I could say the same about my hometown.

At least your hometown would have small city charm. The Gold Coast has a beach, and a never ending expanse of ugly apartment blocks and overpriced suburbia comparable only to western Sydney.

[Kirrig]

Well not compared to Melbourne...

Honestly, why would people live anywhere else?

But really, I don't see a reason for people under 65 or over 12 to move to the Gold Coast.

Where were you visiting from?

Melbourne.

Never been to Melbourne, but if it's like what I've heard I can understand. I live in an area not exactly known for good publicity (South Auckland) so soul isn't why I go to places for a holiday.

[Antilon]

It's not worth just giving up and leaving if there is a glimmer of a chance of changing your home for the better.

That change may be better for you, but not necessarily for others.

Now obviously leaving just for the "convenience of others" wouldn't really be an honest motivation, but it's certainly a good reason.

[Durmatagno]

If theres nothing tying you to were you are, leave. I love the USA, (Hate most politicians though, don't asK) and find me self barely across the line to make me "right" and barely south towards anarchism, though I don't understand it. I find my strange balance coming from my far-left mother and far-right father.

[Conserative Morality]

Lol, when someone mentions police brutality, you say it's only an "incident."

I love how an incident = a trend.

But when it's shown to be have happened regularly, they're still just "several incidents."

Just give up, man. Don't do this to yourself, I thought you had a reputation for being honest.

The hell?

Does the existence of more than one incident disqualify them as incidents?

I hate to break this to you, but more than one incident /=/ Regular

Or is it that any slight against your precious OWS movement cause for instant demonization?

Unsurprising.

[Forster Keys]

Haha, I could say the same about my hometown.

At least your hometown would have small city charm. The Gold Coast has a beach, and a never ending expanse of ugly apartment blocks and overpriced suburbia comparable only to western Sydney.

Mine's that on a smaller scale. It's horrid in the summer time when the tourists come up. Once they go I can appreciate the natural beauty.

[The Kangaroo Republic]

It's not worth just giving up and leaving if there is a glimmer of a chance of changing your home for the better.

That's more like trying to stop a freight train with your bare hands. Especially if that train has been travelling in that same direction for years now and the machinist stubbornly insists that he has been heading the right way all the time.

It's like trying to convince NSG that abortion is wrong, you know it's not going to happen.

[Dyakovo]

Several incidents. In interactions as often as these, with the unruliness that the OWS brings with them, a few slip ups are to expected.

Lol, when someone mentions police brutality, you say it's only an "incident."

I love how an incident = a trend.

But when it's shown to be have happened regularly, they're still just "several incidents."

Just give up, man. Don't do this to yourself, I thought you had a reputation for being honest.

It is a stretch to call 3 incidents a trend... (The last 3 articles are all about the same incident)

[Tekcirb]

I wouldn't leave Britain, Norway or Sweden is closest to my ideal also.

[Antilon]

Lol, when someone mentions police brutality, you say it's only an "incident."



But when it's shown to be have happened regularly, they're still just "several incidents."

Just give up, man. Don't do this to yourself, I thought you had a reputation for being honest.

The hell?

Does the existence of more than one incident disqualify them as incidents?

I hate to break this to you, but more than one incident /=/ Regular

Or is it that any slight against your precious OWS movement cause for instant demonization?

Unsurprising.

0/10

Nice attempt at trolling, but I remain unmad.

It's sad to see that you'd resort to such behavior... sigh.

[Dyakovo]

The hell?

Does the existence of more than one incident disqualify them as incidents?

I hate to break this to you, but more than one incident /=/ Regular

Or is it that any slight against your precious OWS movement cause for instant demonization?

Unsurprising.

0/10

Nice attempt at trolling, but I remain unmad.

It's sad to see that you'd resort to such behavior... sigh.

If you think he's trolling report him.

[Conserative Morality]

0/10

Nice attempt at trolling, but I remain unmad.

It's sad to see that you'd resort to such behavior... sigh.

An accusation of trolling in the face of being called on your treatment of OWS and the ridiculous sense of entitlement that goes with it is hardly making an effort.

But then again, since this thread was started on the premise of "Why not run away from your country if you disagree with it?" I suppose I really shouldn't be surprised.

[Rationallia]

Here's six reasons.

Did you really just pull a Cracked article out?

I could tell it was one as soon as I read '6 Reasons'

[Kirrig]

Did you really just pull a Cracked article out?

I could tell it was one as soon as I read '6 Reasons'

I actually think the article and its reasons were very good. Although that is partly because I agreed with the reasons anyway.

[Ifreann]

Rather I 've wondered why do people who are significantly at odds with their nation in whatever terms stay, often to work fruitlessly for a change that will never come (i.e. Communist Party USA)? Why not just leave and go to a nation that you identify more with?

Presumably they don't see whatever work they're doing as fruitless, or they don't think that that fruitlessness is reason enough to quit the country.

[Dyakovo]

0/10

Nice attempt at trolling, but I remain unmad.

It's sad to see that you'd resort to such behavior... sigh.

An accusation of trolling in the face of being called on your treatment of OWS and the ridiculous sense of entitlement that goes with it is hardly making an effort.

But then again, since this thread was started on the premise of "Why not run away from your country if you disagree with it?" I suppose I really shouldn't be surprised.

Nothing necessarily wrong with the premise... If your preferred politics are that radically different than the norm for your country (and if there is a country that fits your preferences) I don't see anything wrong with the person emigrating... Nor do I see anything wrong with staying and trying to change the norm to your preferences...
*shrugs*

[Krakosov]

norway is statisticly one of the best countries in the world
so it is unlikely that i will leave

[Conserative Morality]

Nothing necessarily wrong with the premise... If your preferred politics are that radically different than the norm for your country (and if there is a country that fits your preferences) I don't see anything wrong with the person emigrating... Nor do I see anything wrong with staying and trying to change the norm to your preferences...
*shrugs*

It seems rather like a cop-out to me to do so purely on the basis of political differences, but I guess that probably has something to do with living in a free and democratic state.

[Dyakovo]

Nothing necessarily wrong with the premise... If your preferred politics are that radically different than the norm for your country (and if there is a country that fits your preferences) I don't see anything wrong with the person emigrating... Nor do I see anything wrong with staying and trying to change the norm to your preferences...
*shrugs*

It seems rather like a cop-out to me to do so purely on the basis of political differences, but I guess that probably has something to do with living in a free and democratic state.

It does to me as well... On the other hand, if they want to leave rather than even attempting to make a difference, let them.

[Radiatia]

I can't stand America, but I lived there for 6 months to be with my girlfriend who is from there.

[Dyakovo]

I can't stand America, but I lived there for 6 months to be with my girlfriend who is from there.

That's nice. What does that have to do with the topic?

[Durmatagno]

I can't stand America, but I lived there for 6 months to be with my girlfriend who is from there.

Thats...Thats some flamebait right there

[Antilon]

Lol, when someone mentions police brutality, you say it's only an "incident."



But when it's shown to be have happened regularly, they're still just "several incidents."

Just give up, man. Don't do this to yourself, I thought you had a reputation for being honest.

It is a stretch to call 3 incidents a trend... (The last 3 articles are all about the same incident)

Should've read more closely, I thought they were separate incidents. Let me pull up some more in a bit (a lot of reading).