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In today's society, is it, morally speaking, still worse for a male to hit a female?

Yes
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No
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Girl fight! Girl fight! Girl fight!
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Postby Guernseyland » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:33 am

The Kangaroo Republic wrote:Abuse is always terrible. But sadly, even today, female on male abuse is much more accepted than male on female abuse.

The kangaroo's true (hey, that rhymes!) You shouldn't hit anyone anyway, but gender's don't matter.
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Postby New East Ireland » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:33 am

Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:
Iterium wrote:No but its alot better then what happens if you stop them (i like having my hearing and nuts) and besides, if they do too much they feel "sorry" if you get my drift 8)


Your girlfriend sounds like an absolute fuckwit

I kinda like the sound of it.
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Postby Fionnuala_Saoirse » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:33 am

It's amazing that some people need a massive rule book with every potential situation explained for them
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Postby Rambhutan » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:33 am

Vetok wrote:It doesn't matter. Even if a frigging midget walked up and tried to 'swing' at me, (this is a colloquialism that you foreigners undoubtedly don't know) I'd still punch them. It's a matter of self defence. You can't just give someone a bloody nose if they're intent on smacking you one, you put them down and don't give them a chance to get up and try again.

And to prevent someone like you misrepresenting this as an example 'violent behaviour', this is realistic and in line with the expectation of self-defence in the UK, and undoubtedly elsewhere.


I really don't think any UK jury would decide you used reasonable force punching a midget to the ground.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:33 am

Siylva wrote:
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You know for some weird reason I read that as woman. Hmm. Maybe it is too early for rum.


Aha, well I think it's sad that someone would read that and perceive a maternal tone. I would think that this is what most civilized people agree upon, that hitting anyone is wrong.


Spare the rod, spoil the child (if we are to talk about kids). I mean was spanked as a child and I turned out okay *twitches, sobs in the corner, drowns myself in alcohol*

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Postby -St George » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:34 am

Only if she's handcuffed face down to the bed.
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Postby Tsarsgrad » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:34 am

Unilisia wrote:
Mr Bananagrabber wrote:You don't get to hit anybody unless it's in defense or you have their permission.


Pretty much this. Although to be honest, I see more girls beating guys than the other way around.


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Postby Iterium » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:34 am

Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:
Iterium wrote:No but its alot better then what happens if you stop them (i like having my hearing and nuts) and besides, if they do too much they feel "sorry" if you get my drift 8)


Your girlfriend sounds like an absolute fuckwit

Not in a relationship atm thx to my ex-girlfriend's friend.

I hate her timing, i really really do :evil:
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Iterium wrote:lemme guess, they tried to teach you that it isnt sanitary to beat your neighbor with a raw chicken.

i never got that rule personally.


You're meant to beat them with a whisk, silly. Till they're soft, fluffy and they've stopped twitching.

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Postby Siylva » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:34 am

Katganistan wrote:
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Did any of you try threatening to take away something she held dear? Or providing a positive incentive for her if she stopped hitting people.

Its just, I've never been around a child so unruly that she could break her parent's nose and I can't really imagine a child that isn't more or less easily cajoled by their parents at that age.

Just because you can't imagine it does not mean it doesn't exist. And yes, she had things taken away, and it was explained, so please, don't try to move the goalposts again.


Relax a bit?

I only said I couldn't imagine it, I didn't mean to imply that i didn't believe it happened.

It's a statement of the difficulty of my trying to comprehend something outside of my experience, not me saying "Oh, well, I kind of find it hard to believe this happened."

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Postby New East Ireland » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:35 am

-St George wrote:Only if she's handcuffed face down to the bed.

Damn straight.
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Postby Andonam » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:36 am

If you choose to slap me, then I can choose to slap you. I don't give a rip of what gender you are except for when it comes to choice of dates, sports teams, and what bathroom you should be in.
THIS IS PERSIA!

I do not personally share the veiws expressed by my nation. In reality, I am a Masculinsit, not a Chauvist. Andonam is created to act as a satire of modern feminist "theory". If you slap me, I maintain the right to slap you back;deal with it.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:36 am

-St George wrote:Only if she's handcuffed face down to the bed.


Now, now, George. We don't want to hear about your rape fantasies.

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Postby Hakkalakkazakka » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:36 am

Even in self defence I wouldn't hit a girl, a male is another story, I'll just hold her tight and hug her.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:36 am

Where does she land on the scale?

What? It's a good measuring tool for these things.

It's okay to hit anybody if you are in a situation in which you can judge that any alternative to violence will not work. I am personally the type of guy who would take a few blows before striking myself, being a recessive and pacifist. That part of me only budges in the other direction when I understand that keeping it constant will get me seriously wounded or possibly killed.

And I don't care if my opponent has a vagina, if it comes to that.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:37 am

I've long maintained that it is perfectly acceptable to hit a woman in any situation where it would be acceptable to hit a man. Simple, no?
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Postby Katganistan » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:38 am

Iterium wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Then honestly, if you put up with it, you're literally telling her it's ok.

She is going to do it anyway, wheather its then or 10 times worse tommorrow. And i rather like being around my girlfriend and not having to watch my back.


Then what do you need her for? Dump her abusive ass for someone who treats you with respect.

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:39 am

The King of Democracy wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:So, unless you've been living under a rock for the past I-don't-know-how-many years, you may have noticed recently that women have been moving away from the sandwich-making counter of the kitchen and into the equal rights room. But that's not exactly what we're here to talk about. No, today I'd like to ask NSG's thoughts on a related issue.
In today's society, is it, morally speaking, still worse for a male to hit a female than for a male to hit a male, a female to hit a male, or a female to hit a female?

I think that it's not. While I think hitting anyone is usually morally wrong, the gender of the person being hit and the gender of the person doing the hitting shouldn't factor in at all. We live in a society where a woman can do (in theory, at least) whatever she puts her mind to, just like a man. If you want equality, you have to take all or nothing, and that means you don't get a pedestal where you're shielded from the negative consequences of your actions. If male-on-female violence is more reprehensible than other combinations of gender and violence, then women might as well grab the loaf of bread and get back in the kitchen, because they clearly don't really want equal equal rights and treatment.

But what do you think, NSG?


Disclaimer: I do not advocate going out into your kitchen and brutally assaulting with a fish the nearest woman who refuses to make you a sammich, regardless of the suspiciousness of putting this disclaimer here when I mentioned no such action in the main body of my post.


Are you seriously bringing this up? Nobody should hit each other plain and simple. Forget about morals people just do what is right try avoiding violence as much as you can.

I'm not sure if I should laugh or facepalm.
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Postby -St George » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:40 am

Mike the Progressive wrote:
-St George wrote:Only if she's handcuffed face down to the bed.


Now, now, George. We don't want to hear about your rape fantasies.

Fantasies? :eyebrow:
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Postby Iterium » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:40 am

Katganistan wrote:
Iterium wrote:She is going to do it anyway, wheather its then or 10 times worse tommorrow. And i rather like being around my girlfriend and not having to watch my back.


Then what do you need her for? Dump her abusive ass for someone who treats you with respect.

You've obviously never ticked your girlfriend off bad enough that she wants to hurt you, gotta respect ya for that.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Iterium wrote:lemme guess, they tried to teach you that it isnt sanitary to beat your neighbor with a raw chicken.

i never got that rule personally.


You're meant to beat them with a whisk, silly. Till they're soft, fluffy and they've stopped twitching.

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Postby Iterium » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:41 am

Katganistan wrote:
Iterium wrote:She is going to do it anyway, wheather its then or 10 times worse tommorrow. And i rather like being around my girlfriend and not having to watch my back.


Then what do you need her for? Dump her abusive ass for someone who treats you with respect.

And ps, we already broke up.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Iterium wrote:lemme guess, they tried to teach you that it isnt sanitary to beat your neighbor with a raw chicken.

i never got that rule personally.


You're meant to beat them with a whisk, silly. Till they're soft, fluffy and they've stopped twitching.

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Postby Fionnuala_Saoirse » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:41 am

-St George wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
Now, now, George. We don't want to hear about your rape fantasies.

Fantasies? :eyebrow:


Well you can't actually rape her if she's your girlfriend after all
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Postby -St George » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:42 am

Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:
-St George wrote:Fantasies? :eyebrow:


Well you can't actually rape her if she's your girlfriend after all

Damn you.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:42 am

Katganistan wrote:
Iterium wrote:She is going to do it anyway, wheather its then or 10 times worse tommorrow. And i rather like being around my girlfriend and not having to watch my back.


Then what do you need her for? Dump her abusive ass for someone who treats you with respect.

And consider criminal charges. *nods*
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Postby Malgrave » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:42 am

Goldsaver wrote:Hitting someone in general is morally wrong, unless of course it is in self defense or defending another; I don't believe gender should be a factor in it.


This.
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Postby The King of Democracy » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:42 am

Katganistan wrote:
The King of Democracy wrote:Mabie, but mabie you did'nt understand what I was meaning. I ment that you souldn't be constantly letting what we call morals taunt you into doing what other people will think is a good deed. Automaticly do the right thing not what others think is right but what you know is right. Being moraly correct isn't always right. Just do the right thing.


You keep using that word....I do not think it means what you THINK it means.

I know what moral means. Here is a quote from one of your references: "of, pertaining to, or concerned with the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction between right and wrong; ethical: moral attitudes"- dictonary.com
Just because something is ethical, right to other people does not justify it being wrong or right. You can choose to belive if something is right or wrong by yourself. Morals are something that were made by the human race that are considered right or wrong. For instance religious morals, Spiritual morals. They were all made by other people to help you make the right decision but the thoughts of others is irrelevant to what you should do or think and it should be left up to that person. Some people even have their own moral guide lines but it still dosn't make it right to live by them all the time. Each new decision that you have to make needs to be looked at at all different angles and should be influenced by other people, set codes of conduct for yourself.

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