Texan secession

[Farnhamia]

Assuming there was such a clause in the first Texas Constitution, that document is no longer in force. Only the 1876 Constitution is and it says nothing about being able to leave. I'll thank you for a source on that "being able to leave," too.

but there still are special status that Texas has, for instance the right to the tidelands out to 9 nautical miles rather than 3 nautical miles other states get.

So Texans get to go wading deeper than the rest of us? That sure showed me.

[Greed and Death]

but there still are special status that Texas has, for instance the right to the tidelands out to 9 nautical miles rather than 3 nautical miles other states get.

So Texans get to go wading deeper than the rest of us? That sure showed me.

Gets to collect oil revenues from farther off the coast then the rest of you.

[Dyakovo]

Assuming there was such a clause in the first Texas Constitution, that document is no longer in force. Only the 1876 Constitution is and it says nothing about being able to leave. I'll thank you for a source on that "being able to leave," too.

That's because you got the wrong version its the 1861 version of the constitution. The Seperation clause is included in that and just to be a sport i will include a link for you to look it over yourself.

]http://www.lsjunction.com/docs/secesson.htm

It really doesn't matter what the Texas Constitution says (although it would be the current one that matters, which would not be the 1861 version).

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.

[New Chalcedon]

By all means. In fact, the entire Old Confederacy should probably leave: the political, cultural, religious and economic facets of life in the South and the Rest are so very, very different that the USA is barely more than a nation in name only as-is.

[Andrew Six]

If they don't want to be with us, it's their right to secede. Though, I'd prefer it be done by county rather than all of the State at once.

[The Lone Alliance]

Why? So the Federal government can invade and end Texas's retarded Ideology once and for all... hmm tempting.

[Zathganastan]

Why? So the Federal government can invade and end Texas's retarded Ideology once and for all... hmm tempting.

If by 'retarded ideology' you mean Republican Conservatism no invading Texas wouldn't really do anything to put a dent in as it is a nationwide ideology rather then a local one.

[Polinikia]

They could start with a referendum then use the results to petition congress.

That's fine, but that's not what I thought Polinikia - "Many Victories" - meant.

That's exactly what I meant. And Polinikia is Polynesian dialect for "Polynesia", hadn't thought of the "Many Victories", ah. language and its many petals.

[Socialdemokraterne]

I've got some procedural concerns about removing Texas from the Union.

First, Texan military officers and diplomats who opt to leave for the new Republic of Texas will be privy to US military and government secrets, and that's not a small problem since upon secession these people are technically loosed from any binding they may have borne under US law (including obligations to maintain these secrets).

Second, we've got to decide who gets to keep the equipment in military and government offices. I would think that the US should be allowed to withdraw all tanks, trucks, missiles, rockets, ships, computers, and so forth. The Republic of Texas will have to construct its military infrastructure and equipment from scratch, though it's completely impractical to pull up highways and interstates or to demolish all former government and military edifices. The Republic of Texas can simply purchase those from the US as it departs.

[Seleucas]

I would be happy with Texas ditching the Union if it got a chance. (I put far more import on being a Texan than being an American.)

[Murray land]

I hope we all know that the Texas Republic tried for nine years to gain statehood. It wasn't until John Tylers term was up that he made the executive order approving Texas statehood. So why secede?

[Seleucas]

I hope we all know that the Texas Republic tried for nine years to gain statehood. It wasn't until John Tylers term was up that he made the executive order approving Texas statehood. So why secede?

Same reasons anyone would break a long-standing arrangement, really.

[Zathganastan]

I hope we all know that the Texas Republic tried for nine years to gain statehood. It wasn't until John Tylers term was up that he made the executive order approving Texas statehood. So why secede?

Same reasons anyone would break a long-standing arrangement, really.

Stupidity?

Both Texas and the whole of the US benefit from the Union so there really is no need for secession.Also Federal law already makes it clear that leaving the Union is not an option.

[Greater Ilanar]

I'm a Northerner, but I'll support every state seceding if the Feds keep up their assault on our rights. Keeping in mind, secession would be an absolute last resort as America can not be strong if she is divided.

[Seleucas]

Same reasons anyone would break a long-standing arrangement, really.

Stupidity?

Both Texas and the whole of the US benefit from the Union so there really is no need for secession.Also Federal law already makes it clear that leaving the Union is not an option.

Debatable; I'd like to be rid of the Federal income tax and have more control over our energy policy, not to mention we wouldn't have any part in the US military from then on. And what Federal law says is about as important as what British law said about the 13 colonies; it's just a matter of pulling it off.