Should this Federal shutdown be made permanent?

[Imperium of Tanith]

Well, if Belgium went for over a year without a Government, the US could pull it off too.

[North Calaveras]

If were just going to always raise the debt ceiling when we clench our cheeks together for the budget why don't we just raise to to infinite or something because if we will never accept default then why bother.

[Benuty]

why not just shutdown all governments permantly

This ^

We don't NEED government to function as humans. Saying that we need government to live is like saying that animals cannot exist without farms.

Sibirsky is that you?

[Benuty]

Well, if Belgium went for over a year without a Government, the US could pull it off too.

Belgium had a government...just not the civilly elected portion of it.

[Downeistan]

why not just shutdown all governments permantly

This ^

We don't NEED government to function as humans. Saying that we need government to live is like saying that animals cannot exist without farms.

So the idea of actually attempting to debate the merits of your proposed anarchist system didn't appeal to you? You'd rather just attempt to make pithy, inane quotes with no basis in reality?

[Blasveck]

why not just shutdown all governments permantly

This ^

We don't NEED government to function as humans. Saying that we need government to live is like saying that animals cannot exist without farms.

Have you even read Proudhon?

Jesus, that's the worst argument for anarchy I've ever seen. You make everybody else look bad, son. Stop.

[Draakonite]

This ^

We don't NEED government to function as humans. Saying that we need government to live is like saying that animals cannot exist without farms.

Have you even read Proudhon?

Jesus, that's the worst argument for anarchy I've ever seen. You make everybody else look bad, son. Stop.

One of the most successfull animals have governments and farms...

[Wind in the Willows]

An opportunity for the world economy to collapse.
An opportunity for civilization as we know it to collapse.
An opportunity for thermonuclear war.
An opportunity for the hairless ape that calls itself "man" to be purged from the world, ending once and for all the experiment of thought.

Um, the world could easily survive without the Americans, actually.

[Greed and Death]

We should now focus on shutting it down again, and again.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

An opportunity for the world economy to collapse.
An opportunity for civilization as we know it to collapse.
An opportunity for thermonuclear war.
An opportunity for the hairless ape that calls itself "man" to be purged from the world, ending once and for all the experiment of thought.

Um, the world could easily survive without the Americans, actually.

It's simply the "Too big to fail" argument as applied to geopolitics.

[Benuty]

An opportunity for the world economy to collapse.
An opportunity for civilization as we know it to collapse.
An opportunity for thermonuclear war.
An opportunity for the hairless ape that calls itself "man" to be purged from the world, ending once and for all the experiment of thought.

Um, the world could easily survive without the Americans, actually.

Meanwhile in the planet of the apes the great Chimpanzee council of science discovers the remains of the fabled "Statue of Liberty" in the forbidden zone. It serves as an ominous reminder to the apes from a once prosperous and highly advanced civilization from the past.

Ape slavery shall be humanities undoing.

[God Kefka]

Easy for him to say when I'm pretty sure the government is not out there to try and take more than half of his income away...

You have no idea the lengths to which I have to go to use the law to avoid the government trying to rob me all the time. It requires so much creativity and effort when really... the right to benefit from the fruit of your labor should be more respected in this country.

I seriously doubt income tax amounts to more than half your income.

It's called figurative speech...

[Dyakovo]

If were just going to always raise the debt ceiling when we clench our cheeks together for the budget why don't we just raise to to infinite or something because if we will never accept default then why bother.

Exactly. The debt ceiling has never serviced any real purpose.

[Dyakovo]

This ^

We don't NEED government to function as humans. Saying that we need government to live is like saying that animals cannot exist without farms.

Have you even read Proudhon?

Jesus, that's the worst argument for anarchy I've ever seen. You make everybody else look bad, son. Stop.

There are no good arguments for anarchy.

[Enadail]

I seriously doubt income tax amounts to more than half your income.

It's called figurative speech...

Actually, it's exaggeration. I don't see anything figurative about making up a much higher number to make up a point.

[Dyakovo]

[b]

Um, the world could easily survive without the Americans, actually.

It's simply the "Too big to fail" argument as applied to geopolitics.

Considering the fact that the US dollar is the world reserve currency, were the US to collapse it would cause a global economic collapse.

[Dyakovo]

I seriously doubt income tax amounts to more than half your income.

It's called figurative speech...

Translation: you lied.

[Frisivisia]

An opportunity for the world economy to collapse.
An opportunity for civilization as we know it to collapse.
An opportunity for thermonuclear war.
An opportunity for the hairless ape that calls itself "man" to be purged from the world, ending once and for all the experiment of thought.

Um, the world could easily survive without the Americans, actually.

Bullshit.

The United States is key to the world economy, to world hard and soft power stability, fucking everything. What a ridiculously stupid statement.

[The Godly Nations]

[b]

Um, the world could easily survive without the Americans, actually.

Bullshit.

The United States is key to the world economy, to world hard and soft power stability, fucking everything. What a ridiculously stupid statement.

They will evetually adjust...and probably more quickly than you would expect...

[The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace]

Bullshit.

The United States is key to the world economy, to world hard and soft power stability, fucking everything. What a ridiculously stupid statement.

They will evetually adjust...and probably more quickly than you would expect...

Lets all just say that it COULD be done, but it would only be done terribly and at great cost.

Like driving with your dick.

[The Godly Nations]

They will evetually adjust...and probably more quickly than you would expect...

Lets all just say that it COULD be done, but it would only be done terribly and at great cost.

Like driving with your dick.

With a car especially designed to be driven by your dick...with the Honda Steer-with-your-cunt forthcoming.

[The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace]

Lets all just say that it COULD be done, but it would only be done terribly and at great cost.

Like driving with your dick.

With a car especially designed to be driven by your dick...with the Honda Steer-with-your-cunt forthcoming.

I did not know that the world economy was specifically built for America to take itself out of the world economy.

[The Godly Nations]

With a car especially designed to be driven by your dick...with the Honda Steer-with-your-cunt forthcoming.

I did not know that the world economy was specifically built for America to take itself out of the world economy.

No, but the economy could manage just fine without America- maybe not so much in the first few years, but it will eventually adjust to the complete lack of America. If everyone found some sudden, irresitible urge to drive a car with their private bits, car companies will eventually have to make them to statisfy that demand.

[The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace]

I did not know that the world economy was specifically built for America to take itself out of the world economy.

No, but the economy could manage just fine without America- maybe not so much in the first few years, but it will eventually adjust to the complete lack of America. If everyone found some sudden, irresitible urge to drive a car with their private bits, car companies will eventually have to make them to statisfy that demand.

So basically, what I just said, except further down the page and with more words?

[The Godly Nations]

No, but the economy could manage just fine without America- maybe not so much in the first few years, but it will eventually adjust to the complete lack of America. If everyone found some sudden, irresitible urge to drive a car with their private bits, car companies will eventually have to make them to statisfy that demand.

So basically, what I just said, except further down the page and with more words?

You said that the economy can stabilise...only it would do so terribly, and is like driving a car with your penis, by which I assume you mean driving a car not designed for penis driving. I said that the economy will necessarily adjust, just as, if people suddenly all demand to drive with their genitals, the car companies will adjust, and it does not necessarily have to be terribly.