As a pretext, I'm not going to rehash the discussion I just had with Roavin about whether the francoist "userite/feederite" perpective is worth applying. That's worth reading, I think. It was good.
Escade wrote:1. So everyone supporting the coup was in on it from the beginning and supports this ideology where some random raiders want to infiltrate and subvert GCRs to start wars? Good to know that the userite raider menace is real.
I dunno whether that was the plan from the start or whether everyone knew what the plan was from the start. I wasn't there from the start. I jumped on when I saw stuff I liked. The people in charge of Lazarus are definitely a raider menance (actually wrote that as a genuine typo, leaving it in) to their enemies.
2. Nyet. The first point has been argued to death. From your perspective you think players should just roll over and be invaded by raider userites without complaining or trying to fight back. Every GCR would try to take actions and protect themselves. A group that first purges all dissenters then forces through, with outsider support, a government change is the worst fear of most GCRs. Most of the GCRs today have to worry about internal coups moreso than external ones.
Then, the second point seems like whining about why the regional activity has been dead for awhile. Themes don't make or break activity or stop a region from being active for several months. Players do. Any set of competent players can take a lukewarm theme and bring it to life. This is a case of trying to blame the theme for the players lack of ability.
I don't really care if they fight back or not. Personally I rather liked the ideas and thought that they'd form an interesting and eventually stable GCR, something new to spice things up. If anything I think the Wolfist encouragement of GCR conflict demands pushback rather than discourages it. They're probably rather enjoying all of the resistance.
I know you're not a great fan of criticism, Escade, but you could respond to it differently at least once. It was even about a group you don't like this time and you
still called it whining. It's good to accept that there are different opinions in the world, you know? There's no greater sin than
knowing that you're right.
3. I've been a defender for only a year, and in a few days it will be the 5 year anniversary of my main (took a break in between). The reason that TSP, as a region, democratically elects players has less to do with their R\D ideology than their contributions to the region over time.
I've held many titles in TSP over the years I've been active and guess what my pride [Why say "guess what" here? You realise that sounding aggressive is rhetorically detrimental, don't you?] is that we don't bow down to anyone, especially raider userites. Not that some of your fellows didn't try voter importation among other nasty tricks which is why they get the reception they do. It's also fair to say that my and some of my region's views of a subset of raiders, such as yourself, comes from direct interactions (such as those in the TSP embassy thread where a lot of hostility by the raider userite faction was initiated against us or from those voter importation attempts).
Either way TSP is still ruled by defenders. The second paragraph here is like one of Ike's speeches but done much less eloquently. I think the issue with it is that it's an attempt to change my mind emotionally whilst I'm trying to have a logical debate with you. It doesn't work.
4. I have little direct interaction with raiders from certain spheres unless stalked on my own region's embassy thread. If certain userites feel threatened by the mere idea of my posting positive vibes about the things I love, then that speaks to their own precarious position and inferiority complexes.
The line is a little blurry in a game based on text, but have you ever thought that people might argue with you because they personally disagree with you rather than because they feel threatened by you? I see no reason to criticise someone for challenging your agreement with ideas that they themselves disagree with. It's not just fine, in fact, it's important that people do that. It seems unreasonable to respond to them with threatening and insulting rhetoric. Nobody here has an inferiority complex about you, Escade. There'd need to be people here inferior to you for that.
Your actions have resulted in the reaction and receptions you receive. LWU's actions are why other GCRs may take a good hard look at the raider userite menace in their own regions.
I don't feel particularly isolated. Nobody I talked to before this has become any more hostile because of the position I took for a short while. Honestly I don't see what you're trying to get at here.
5. Really? To say that players love the regions they built over time and will try their best to protect them is spooky? And I wonder what you would call taking regions away from the people who supported and built them up over years. The fact is that every GCR community would try their utmost hardest to fight back against coupers and purgers.
No, I was being sarcastic about the warning you made. Not that you didn't know that.
6. It saddens me because I know that each GCR, as is stands now, would want their communities to fight against such raider userite plans to turn their regions into mere dead spaces. Can't keep the warzone Lazarus alive, what else gets to die a slow agonizing death into ignominy ?
You're right. It is sad that on this flawed thing most of the GCRs are in agreement. Whether Lazarus is actually falling inactive has been discussed at least five different times in this thread and I'm not getting into it. Still, though. If it's got to the point where TSP is applying namecalling to a whole region, perhaps the userite cause is not lost in Lazarus yet.