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[Escade]

Quite obviously, you seem to constantly engage in it even when many of the others involved have stopped trying to pretend. TWP and Balder propped up LWU to coup and purge Lazarus. In one of the many posts on this topic, someone helpfully even pointed out the pilers from TWP.

[Vadia]

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Quite obviously, you seem to constantly engage in it even when many of the others involved have stopped trying to pretend. TWP and Balder propped up LWU to coup and purge Lazarus. In one of the many posts on this topic, someone helpfully even pointed out the pilers from TWP.

Does anyone need this to still be explained to them? Like, if you are new, I get it, but I knew this was going since the first month.

I'm happy someone is saying it outloud now, and I like the gif.

[Drop Your Pants]

Does anyone need this to still be explained to them? Like, if you are new, I get it, but I knew this was going since the first month.

You can explain to me if you like, I might correct you on bits though

[Roavin]

Mechanically, Laz is still a Sinker, sure. But the NPO isn't wrong - de facto, there really isn't much left of Laz except LWU continuing to fuck it as hard as they can, bafflingly with the support of a fellow sinker (Balder) and a feeder (TWP).

If Lazarus doesn't mechanically function as a Warzone, I think it could only be accurately called a "de facto Warzone" if someone were waging war on it. Is this what TSP is suggesting here? Should those regions standing behind Lazarus be concerned about any action that you might take against them as well? How far do you intend to get involved in the internal politics of the rest of us?

I don't think War is what you want. You'd like to have Lazarus' delegacy in your own hands or the hands of people that you can trust to agree with you, and you'd like to keep pushing at Lazarus until it either gives up or you get bored. But you don't want War. NPO's assuming that they are somehow superior on NS to the extent that they can define the existence of another GCR was a good giggle, but it was an insult to their own ideology and to GCRs as a whole. NPO's opinions on or desires for a region do not supersede it's eternal status. Lazarus may only become a Warzone if War is taken to it - in which case, I suppose we all better buckle down.

Well that came out of nowhere.

Take off the pink-colored glasses of fundamentalist Delegate Supremacy, and look at what you have in Lazarus. There is a war there, initiated by LWU using, essentially, sleeper tactics to get into power. Having done that, they are trashing the place as they seem fit. And LWU is getting outside support from, among others, the two regions you are a part of.

I encourage you to take a long, hard look in the mirror.

[Killer Kitty]

Take off the pink-colored glasses of fundamentalist Delegate Supremacy, and look at what you have in Lazarus. There is a war there, initiated by LWU using, essentially, sleeper tactics to get into power.

Uh...

Killer Kitty - Lazarus citizen since 2005 - Lazarus Delegate 4 times
Funkadelia - Lazarus citizen since 2013 - Lazarus Delegate 2 times
Aleister - Lazarus citizen since 2016 - Lazarus Delegate 1 time

All of us have held multiple positions in various Lazarus governments, in my case spanning over a decade+. Roavin is quite seriously stating that "raiders can't be natives, no matter what". I don't think I can find a clearer example a Defender trying to stomp out the right of self-determination of natives and raiders alike. You're in a region and you and your fellow government friends want to turn it raider? You were never a native, you're a "long term sleeper".

This is exactly the sort of the Defenderist double-think what the Wolfist Manifesto warns people about.

[Marilyn Manson Freaks]

Take off the pink-colored glasses of fundamentalist Delegate Supremacy, and look at what you have in Lazarus. There is a war there, initiated by LWU using, essentially, sleeper tactics to get into power.

Uh...

Killer Kitty - Lazarus citizen since 2005 - Lazarus Delegate 4 times
Funkadelia - Lazarus citizen since 2013 - Lazarus Delegate 2 times
Aleister - Lazarus citizen since 2016 - Lazarus Delegate 1 time

All of us have held multiple positions in various Lazarus governments, in my case spanning over a decade+. Roavin is quite seriously stating that "raiders can't be natives, no matter what". I don't think I can find a clearer example a Defender trying to stomp out the right of self-determination of natives and raiders alike. You're in a region and you and your fellow government friends want to turn it raider? You were never a native, you're a "long term sleeper".

This is exactly the sort of the Defenderist double-think what the Wolfist Manifesto warns people about.

What will the next Lazarene government's theme be? Hopefully something that reminds me less of Little Red Riding Hood.

[Roavin]

Take off the pink-colored glasses of fundamentalist Delegate Supremacy, and look at what you have in Lazarus. There is a war there, initiated by LWU using, essentially, sleeper tactics to get into power.

Uh...

Killer Kitty - Lazarus citizen since 2005 - Lazarus Delegate 4 times
Funkadelia - Lazarus citizen since 2013 - Lazarus Delegate 2 times
Aleister - Lazarus citizen since 2016 - Lazarus Delegate 1 time

All of us have held multiple positions in various Lazarus governments, in my case spanning over a decade+. Roavin is quite seriously stating that "raiders can't be natives, no matter what". I don't think I can find a clearer example a Defender trying to stomp out the right of self-determination of natives and raiders alike. You're in a region and you and your fellow government friends want to turn it raider? You were never a native, you're a "long term sleeper".

This is exactly the sort of the Defenderist double-think what the Wolfist Manifesto warns people about.

Please point to the part of my post where I stated that.

Actually, let me save you the trouble - You can't. Don't put words in my mouth. I could care less if you're raiders, defenders, reverse presbyterian goat-cheese aficionados, gay, straight, libertarian, republican, communist, christian, buddhist, NatSov, IntFed, or anything else. You've taken Lazarus in the name of your UCR and started purging anything that didn't immediately play the part of your non-native-imposed agenda. If Vinny did the same in the name of TGW, I'd complain just as much.

[Davelands]

Please point to the part of my post where I stated that.

Actually, let me save you the trouble - You can't. Don't put words in my mouth. I could care less if you're raiders, defenders, reverse presbyterian goat-cheese aficionados, gay, straight, libertarian, republican, communist, christian, buddhist, NatSov, IntFed, or anything else. You've taken Lazarus in the name of your UCR and started purging anything that didn't immediately play the part of your non-native-imposed agenda. If Vinny did the same in the name of TGW, I'd complain just as much.

"There is a war there, initiated by LWU using, essentially, sleeper tactics to get into power."

[Killer Kitty]

Please point to the part of my post where I stated that.

You claimed that those in control of the Khanate of Lazarus are long term sleepers, "essentially". The implication of that thought process is very telling indeed.

You've taken Lazarus in the name of your UCR and started purging anything that didn't immediately play the part of your non-native-imposed agenda.

Funny...I don't remember Lone Wolves United ever calming to have taken Lazarus. Did I miss a dispatch or an article? Would you please point out where you're getting your information from?

[Old Hope]

Please point to the part of my post where I stated that.

You claimed that those in control of the Khanate of Lazarus are long term sleepers, "essentially". The implication of that thought process is very telling indeed.

You've taken Lazarus in the name of your UCR and started purging anything that didn't immediately play the part of your non-native-imposed agenda.

Funny...I don't remember Lone Wolves United ever calming to have taken Lazarus. Did I miss a dispatch or an article? Would you please point out where you're getting your information from?

I am sure that your WFE at one time stated "Lazarus Wolves United". You have changed it since then but the connection is obvious.

[Indo-Malaysia]

Please point to the part of my post where I stated that.

You claimed that those in control of the Khanate of Lazarus are long term sleepers, "essentially". The implication of that thought process is very telling indeed.

You've taken Lazarus in the name of your UCR and started purging anything that didn't immediately play the part of your non-native-imposed agenda.

Funny...I don't remember Lone Wolves United ever calming to have taken Lazarus. Did I miss a dispatch or an article? Would you please point out where you're getting your information from?

You must have missed the bit where three LWU sleepers couped the native government, waiting for the headlines to die down before handing the delegacy over to another LWU member who put 'Lazarus Wolves United' in the WFE, making dispatched clearly named after elements of LWU.

Definetly no connections at all to the LWU...

[Lord Dominator]

You claimed that those in control of the Khanate of Lazarus are long term sleepers, "essentially". The implication of that thought process is very telling indeed.



Funny...I don't remember Lone Wolves United ever calming to have taken Lazarus. Did I miss a dispatch or an article? Would you please point out where you're getting your information from?

I am sure that your WFE at one time stated "Lazarus Wolves United". You have changed it since then but the connection is obvious.

And the TBH flag has flown over assorted GCRs at various points, including by Syberis when they gained the Osiris delegacy. Doesn't mean those regions are owned by TBH

[The NAtion OF Froggy]

This whole thread makes me laugh after what I just saw.

[Killer Kitty]

You must have missed the bit where three LWU sleepers couped the native government

Calling long time native raiders "sleepers" doesn't make you sound clever, it just makes you sound like believe that no raider can be a native of any region. Proving Wolfism right, yet again.

A lot of this seems like the same propaganda we heard in July from Ike, Llama, and Ark's coup faction, just kicked up a notch.

Lone Wolves United has never claimed to have taken over Lazarus, Lazarus has not "fallen" to our long time allies in LWU, and Defenders continue to expose their true intentions through their clumsy dishonesty and proof-less lies.

[The NAtion OF Froggy]

You must have missed the bit where three LWU sleepers couped the native government

Calling long time native raiders "sleepers" doesn't make you sound clever, it just makes you sound like believe that no raider can be a native of any region. Proving Wolfism right, yet again.

A lot of this seems like the same propaganda we heard in July from Ike, Llama, and Ark's coup faction, just kicked up a notch.

Lone Wolves United has never claimed to have taken over Lazarus, Lazarus has not "fallen" to our long time allies in LWU, and Defenders continue to expose their true intentions through their clumsy dishonesty and proof-less lies.

what are you thoughts on endorsing known TEP and TWP puppets?

[Lord Dominator]

Calling long time native raiders "sleepers" doesn't make you sound clever, it just makes you sound like believe that no raider can be a native of any region. Proving Wolfism right, yet again.

A lot of this seems like the same propaganda we heard in July from Ike, Llama, and Ark's coup faction, just kicked up a notch.

Lone Wolves United has never claimed to have taken over Lazarus, Lazarus has not "fallen" to our long time allies in LWU, and Defenders continue to expose their true intentions through their clumsy dishonesty and proof-less lies.

what are you thoughts on endorsing known TEP and TWP puppets?

Are they not joining the Wolfist revolution of their own free will? I see no problem in that

[Killer Kitty]

what are you thoughts on endorsing known TEP and TWP puppets?

I don't know of any TEP puppets, but TWP is a treaty ally of Lazarus, as is Balder. Is Lazarus not allowed to have allies anymore because our entire government has been declared "raider sleepers and not natives" by Imperialist Defenders who want the region for themselves?

[Tim-Opolis]

I, for one, applaud the NPO's brave actions. It's a difficult decision, to be forced to downgrade a sister GCR to the status of a mere warzone, but Lazarus has truly merited the action. The region has been so thoroughly infiltrated by Userites, many of whom have proven to be nothing but retirees and failed regionbuilders themselves, that it is likely to take years for the region to recover from their taint. Pour one out for the homies, and pour an extra one out for the loss of a formerly grand sinker region.

I only hope that our remaining three sinkers can continue on despite the loss of their sibling.

[Indo-Malaysia]

You must have missed the bit where three LWU sleepers couped the native government

Calling long time native raiders "sleepers" doesn't make you sound clever, it just makes you sound like believe that no raider can be a native of any region. Proving Wolfism right, yet again.

A lot of this seems like the same propaganda we heard in July from Ike, Llama, and Ark's coup faction, just kicked up a notch.

Lone Wolves United has never claimed to have taken over Lazarus, Lazarus has not "fallen" to our long time allies in LWU, and Defenders continue to expose their true intentions through their clumsy dishonesty and proof-less lies.

Still the 'LWU has done nothing' rhetoric? Your WFE literally said Lazarus Wolves United, and this Wolfism crap wasn't named that out of the blue was it? It is raider subversion. You are no better than your predecessors.

I figured raiders would be proud of a raid that big. The Hawks had no problem saying they nuked Westphalia with millions of pilers.

[Killer Kitty]

Still the 'LWU has done nothing' rhetoric?

I believe the "rhetoric" is mostly on your side, attempting to paint a picture that doesn't exist and justifying it with cries of "raider subversion". For shame.

Your WFE literally said Lazarus Wolves United

Are we not allowed to make a joke, thumbing our noses at those who have been falsely screaming "raider subversion" since the July Coup attempt?

this Wolfism crap wasn't named that out of the blue was it?

Wolfism is a raider philosophy that has existed since March of 2007. Kogvuron even wrote "A Critique of the Wolfist Manifesto" for TRT way back in 2014. Kogvuron himself called the Manifesto "arguably one of the most important documents in the history of military gameplay".

You're very correct that it wasn't "named out of the blue", since it's a decade old raider school of thought.

[The Church of Satan]

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The LWU flag is still flying over Lazarus so pardon everyone for the common sense, lol.

[Galiantus III]

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The LWU flag is still flying over Lazarus so pardon everyone for the common sense, lol.

Exactly. There wouldn't be an argument to be made if not for the clear LWU influences in name and theme.

[Delescluze]

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The LWU flag is still flying over Lazarus so pardon everyone for the common sense, lol.

No, it’s not.

[Tupelope]

The LWU flag is still flying over Lazarus so pardon everyone for the common sense, lol.

No, it’s not.

ye it is

[Galiantus III]

The blatant denial of reality by the LWU here is just ridiculous to the extreme.