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Latin motto clinic

Postby Naivetry » Sat May 30, 2009 12:38 am




Multi sunt in hoc ludo qui lingua latina in pagina civitatis uti conantur, sed grex verborum sententiam latinam non facit. Soloecismis in lingua latina in interrete abundantis, cogitavi menda hic corrigere, si possem, utile futurum esse.

There are many people in this game who are trying to use the Latin language on their nation page, but a group of Latin words does not make a Latin sentence. Since grammatical errors in Latin on the internet abound, I thought it would be useful to correct mistakes here if I could.

Hic scribere licet (anglice et/aut latine) quam sententiam in pagina civitatis velis. Quidquid mihi des pro latinitate diligenter corrigam.

Here you may write (in English and/or in Latin) what motto you would like on your nation page. I will do my best to edit whatever you give me for good Latin style.

Alii discipuli linguae latinae - monete me, amabo vos, si erro.

Other students of Latin - warn me, please, if I make a mistake.

EDIT2: mone --> monete
EDIT3: nationis --> civitatis... much better
EDIT4: added other language links
EDIT5: added Greek link!
EDIT6 and 7: added Nahuatl and French/Italian links
EDIT8: added Irish link
EDIT9 and 10: added Finnish link
EDIT11: added Mandarin link
EDIT12: deleted old French/Italian link, since author has CTE'd; added Chinese (Mandarin or Cantonese) and Dutch links
EDIT13: deleted old Greek link, since author has CTE'd and URL appears to have been wrong anyway; added Ancient Greek link
EDIT14: deleted Mandarin link (thread locked), added East Asian and Swedish links
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Postby Zemnaya Svoboda » Sat May 30, 2009 12:45 am

"All for One and One for None" (for Lajikelessea)

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Postby Naivetry » Sat May 30, 2009 1:11 am

Zemnaya Svoboda wrote:"All for One and One for None" (for Lajikelessea)
Omnes pro uno et unus pro nullo.
(Assuming we're talking about people, and defaulting to masculine for the singular.)

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Postby Zemnaya Svoboda » Sat May 30, 2009 1:19 am

Naivetry wrote:
Zemnaya Svoboda wrote:"All for One and One for None" (for Lajikelessea)
Omnes pro uno et unus pro nullo.
(Assuming we're talking about people, and defaulting to masculine for the singular.)

Thank you :) Motto applied.

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Postby Kim Jong-ilia » Sat May 30, 2009 1:26 am

Independence, Freedom, Happiness
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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Sat May 30, 2009 1:39 am

Bow to the Machine.

Failing that, "Ingenuity above all else."

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Postby Intangelon » Sat May 30, 2009 1:50 am

"Give us ambiguity or give us something else!"

I'll take my answer off the air, and thank you!
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Postby Hetairos » Sat May 30, 2009 1:52 am

Naivetry wrote:Alii discipuli linguae latinae - mone me, amabo vos, si erro.

Other students of Latin - warn me, please, if I make a mistake.


Shouldn't that be monete, because the students are plural?
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Postby Hetairos » Sat May 30, 2009 1:58 am

Kim Jong-Ilia wrote:Independence, Freedom, Happiness


Independence and freedom are the same in Latin-libertas.
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Postby Third Spanish States » Sat May 30, 2009 2:06 am

"Capto haud dominus praeterquam tu"

Is this properly written?
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Postby Hetairos » Sat May 30, 2009 2:16 am

Third Spanish States wrote:"Capto haud dominus praeterquam tu"

Is this properly written?


I think it should be domino, because it's dative (I strive for no master other than you).
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Re: Latin motto clinic

Postby Naivetry » Sat May 30, 2009 2:57 am

Kim Jong-Ilia wrote:Independence, Freedom, Happiness

Libertas, Arbitrium, Felicitas
(This is a hard one because of the poverty of Latin vocabulary - normally the Romans would have used libertas for independence in the political sense, but libertas is also the most common word for freedom. I've used arbitrium as freedom here - it carries with it connotations of freedom of choice, although its primary meaning has more to do with judgment or decision.)

Gauntleted Fist wrote:Bow to the Machine.

Obtemperate machinae.
(Assuming you're addressing someone in the plural, and that it means "submit to" rather than just "bend." :P )

Gauntleted Fist wrote:Failing that, "Ingenuity above all else."

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Hetairos wrote:Shouldn't that be monete, because the students are plural?

Ita... gratias tibi ago! :blush:

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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Sat May 30, 2009 3:25 am

Thanks for the help.

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Postby Naivetry » Sat May 30, 2009 3:34 am

Intangelon wrote:"Give us ambiguity or give us something else!"

I'll take my answer off the air, and thank you!

Assuming off the air means in telegram, sent. ;)

Hetairos wrote:
Third Spanish States wrote:"Capto haud dominus praeterquam tu"

Is this properly written?


I think it should be domino, because it's dative (I strive for no master other than you).

I'm going to argue here that capto should just take the accusative, and the 'for' part is a casualty of the translation into English rather than a dative of... er... advantage? So,

Capto haud dominum praeterquam te.

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Postby Starblaydia » Sat May 30, 2009 3:52 am

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Postby The Artic Republics » Sat May 30, 2009 4:04 am

OK, how about my one- 'Peace, freedom, justice and unity'?

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Postby North Avayu » Sat May 30, 2009 4:09 am

The Artic Republics wrote:OK, how about my one- 'Peace, freedom, justice and unity'?


"Pax, libertas, iustitia et unitas"

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Postby Hetairos » Sat May 30, 2009 4:09 am

Naivetry wrote:
Intangelon wrote:"Give us ambiguity or give us something else!"

I'll take my answer off the air, and thank you!

Assuming off the air means in telegram, sent. ;)

Hetairos wrote:
Third Spanish States wrote:"Capto haud dominus praeterquam tu"

Is this properly written?


I think it should be domino, because it's dative (I strive for no master other than you).

I'm going to argue here that capto should just take the accusative, and the 'for' part is a casualty of the translation into English rather than a dative of... er... advantage? So,

Capto haud dominum praeterquam te.

OK, I wasn't quite sure about it.
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Postby Democratic Eurasia » Sat May 30, 2009 4:10 am

Could you translate 'We shall not rest until we have reached the summit.'

This is impressive though- the way you've been able to do all these. I did latin years ago, in Form 1 (it was one of those schools- but I was only there for that year), but I really couldn't get into and have forgotten the little I learned.
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By the way, please excuse all spelling and grammar mistakes- they are indeed numerous and highly irritating. If its any consolation they annoy me just as much. Its just combing through and editing your post for a 3rd time for that last 'their' that should be 'they're' would last me to the next general election. I'm not good with keyboards. But I am a good speller in the real world. Really. I'm not just saying that.
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Postby Naivetry » Sat May 30, 2009 4:57 am

Democratic Eurasia wrote:Could you translate 'We shall not rest until we have reached the summit.'

Non quiescemus priusquam summum accesserimus.

Democratic Eurasia wrote:This is impressive though- the way you've been able to do all these. I did latin years ago, in Form 1 (it was one of those schools- but I was only there for that year), but I really couldn't get into and have forgotten the little I learned.

I'm a graduate instructor teaching Latin I and II - so this is good practice and review over the summer. (And makes that first mistake pretty embarrassing... is it too late to pretend I did it on purpose?)

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Postby Democratic Eurasia » Sat May 30, 2009 5:03 am

Thanks!

And don't worry too much- unless any of your students (or worse- superiors!) are NSers and know you online identity. In that case its time to get that reserve bribe money out...
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By the way, please excuse all spelling and grammar mistakes- they are indeed numerous and highly irritating. If its any consolation they annoy me just as much. Its just combing through and editing your post for a 3rd time for that last 'their' that should be 'they're' would last me to the next general election. I'm not good with keyboards. But I am a good speller in the real world. Really. I'm not just saying that.
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Postby Naivetry » Sat May 30, 2009 5:10 am

Democratic Eurasia wrote:Thanks!

And don't worry too much- unless any of your students (or worse- superiors!) are NSers and know you online identity. In that case its time to get that reserve bribe money out...

Funny you should mention that... just before the first class I ever taught, I found out that one of the NSers I'd been chatting with on IRC for a couple months was going to be my student. Within a matter of 20 minutes, we went from knowing nothing about each other in RL to finding out we lived in the same state, in the same town, went to the same university, were part of the same general program... and that sure enough, I was teaching his class starting the following week. That was a fun first day of the semester, let me tell you... :P

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Postby North Avayu » Sat May 30, 2009 5:20 am

Naivetry wrote:Non quiescemus priusquam summum accesserimus.


Sorry for the question, but couldn't you use the Hortativ (don't know if it's the same name in English) to express the "shall" a bit better? I'm just a student myself and am currently preparing for a test, so I thought I should ask this.

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Postby Naivetry » Sat May 30, 2009 6:20 am

North Avayu wrote:
Naivetry wrote:Non quiescemus priusquam summum accesserimus.


Sorry for the question, but couldn't you use the Hortativ (don't know if it's the same name in English) to express the "shall" a bit better? I'm just a student myself and am currently preparing for a test, so I thought I should ask this.

"Shall" in this instance is just the future tense. The hortative/hortatory subjunctive would be translated, "Let us not rest" and would use a ne for the negative. :)

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Postby Fallhalla » Sat May 30, 2009 6:42 am

My motto is "De Oppresso Liber", to liberate the oppressed. This motto is also used by the United States Green Berets.

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