[DEFEATED] Condemn Auralia

[Sedgistan]

The Security Council:

RECOGNIZING that all WA Member States have the duty to carry out in good faith their obligations to follow international law, including World Assembly resolutions;

DISMAYED that, while a member of this Assembly, Auralia routinely passed laws violating World Assembly resolutions;

ANNOYED that Auralia has encouraged other member nations' non-compliance with international laws they disagree with;

SADDENED that Auralia has abridged the rights of world citizens and advocated the destruction of the environment;

SHOCKED that Auralia authored its own commendation proposal, then submitted it via a subordinate jurisdiction, which had no legal standing as a member of this institution, thereby making a sham of the commendation process and resulting in the expulsion of both jurisdictions from the World Assembly;

CONCERNED that, since its expulsion, the nation, as the founder and controlling member of a purported coalition of nations called the World Assembly Charter Working Group, has regained membership in the WA in order to continue its efforts to decimate this institution;

OUTRAGED that said group advocates so-called "peacekeeping operations", thus allowing military action by the World Assembly, which is against everything this institution stands for;

HEREBY CONDEMNS Auralia.


A note to our fellow ambassadors: We, the Puddle Jumping Wads of Wrapper feel, since Auralia has rejoined the WA as a "part" of the World Assembly Charter Working Group, that this condemnation is entirely appropriate at this time. We thank you in advance for your consideration and comments.

[Port blood]

*puts up a sign*

Good luck though,good to see new people drafting

[Wrapper]

*puts up a sign*

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Good luck though,good to see new people drafting

Thank you for the warning, Ambassador, and rest assured we shall watch where we step.

[Vrolondia]

This is a surprisingly convincing argument, but as much as I don't like the guy I don't think I could ever condemn him.

...but it is pretty tempting.

[Ramaeus]

This is a surprisingly convincing argument, but as much as I don't like the guy I don't think I could ever condemn him

Agreed. He screwed up and admitted his mistake. Let the man fall into obscurity.

[Sierra Lyricalia]

CONCERNED that, since its expulsion, the nation, under the guise of a "group" called the World Assembly Charter Working Group

One small note, Ambassador: the phrase "under the guise" seems to imply intent to deceive, which can't be proven here: had the Auralians truly wished to pull one over on the WA, they would not have acted using a nation already known to be one of their vassal states; rather, the GAR #2 repeal would have been submitted either out of the blue by an entirely new state, or by request/proxy via a nation independent of (but allied with) Auralia. On the contrary, they've been open about their string-pulling, so I might change the wording here slightly.

Other than that, this all looks quite accurate and proper.

[Wrapper]

One small note, Ambassador: the phrase "under the guise" seems to imply intent to deceive, which can't be proven here: had the Auralians truly wished to pull one over on the WA, they would not have acted using a nation already known to be one of their vassal states; rather, the GAR #2 repeal would have been submitted either out of the blue by an entirely new state, or by request/proxy via a nation independent of (but allied with) Auralia. On the contrary, they've been open about their string-pulling, so I might change the wording here slightly.

Other than that, this all looks quite accurate and proper.

Noted... but we feel there is intent to deceive. Thus far this so-called "group" appears to have only one member, and it is under the stated control of Auralia. Should someone else steps forward and claim membership in this group, we shall reword.

[Elke and Elba]

Gosh, I'm going to repeat what I said.

Auralia's pretty mild a target for condemnation.

As much as I hate him, I hope he doesn't ever get anything at all, too. Giving a condemnation for non-compliance is a pretty dumb move. Putting him on the same with people who grief regions is just inconceivably uncalled-for.

Let him fall into obscurity. Your arguments are now invalid too, as Auralia cannot be and will not be a member of the WA forever. That means if he doesn't comply, it's really none of our bloody business.

[Wrapper]

This is a surprisingly convincing argument, but as much as I don't like the guy I don't think I could ever condemn him

Agreed. He screwed up and admitted his mistake. Let the man fall into obscurity.

Admittedly, that was our feeling as well, until he reappeared a day or two ago and resumed campaigning to repeal GAR #2 under his "WA Charter Working Group". Among his stated desires to do so are non-compliance with resolutions and creating a WA peace-keeping force. We won't stand for that, nor should the Security Council, and we feel that this is the best way to express our dismay.

[Elke and Elba]

Agreed. He screwed up and admitted his mistake. Let the man fall into obscurity.

Admittedly, that was our feeling as well, until he reappeared a day or two ago and resumed campaigning to repeal GAR #2 under his "WA Charter Working Group". Among his stated desires to do so are non-compliance with resolutions and creating a WA peace-keeping force. We won't stand for that, nor should the Security Council, and we feel that this is the best way to express our dismay.

No, no, no. No one really cares.

I, for one, don't need Auralia to get attention as though he's some diva for reappearing, because he isn't.

That kind of attitude is irritating but he can do all he wants. He's alienated quite many delegates I wouldn't be surprised if GAR#2 doesn't pass. That's the price he pays.

Universal Suffrage Act and Moratorium on Animal Testing was to block it amongst other bills, but alas Universal Suffrage Act couldn't due to, well, legality issues with category.

[Wrapper]

Gosh, I'm going to repeat what I said.

Auralia's pretty mild a target for condemnation.

As much as I hate him, I hope he doesn't ever get anything at all, too. Giving a condemnation for non-compliance is a pretty dumb move. Putting him on the same with people who grief regions is just inconceivably uncalled-for.

Let him fall into obscurity. Your arguments are now invalid too, as Auralia cannot be and will not be a member of the WA forever. That means if he doesn't comply, it's really none of our bloody business.

We respectfully disagree, for the nation is indeed, as their Ambassador has stated, a member of the WA, under the flag of the WA Charter Working Group. Who these other group members are, we do not know yet, but we do know that Auralia pulls the strings.

It is not just about non-compliance -- we agree that if that were the only issue we could write enough condemnations to fill a library. And, it's not just about the self-commendation attempt. It is the total body of work, along with their continued efforts to (1) repeal GAR #2, (2) make compliance selective for all, and (3) arm the WA, that we feel the nation deserves this condemnation.

A sincere thanks for your comments, Ambassador.

[Elke and Elba]

Gosh, I'm going to repeat what I said.

Auralia's pretty mild a target for condemnation.

As much as I hate him, I hope he doesn't ever get anything at all, too. Giving a condemnation for non-compliance is a pretty dumb move. Putting him on the same with people who grief regions is just inconceivably uncalled-for.

Let him fall into obscurity. Your arguments are now invalid too, as Auralia cannot be and will not be a member of the WA forever. That means if he doesn't comply, it's really none of our bloody business.

We respectfully disagree, for the nation is indeed, as their Ambassador has stated, a member of the WA, under the flag of the WA Charter Working Group. Who these other group members are, we do not know yet, but we do know that Auralia pulls the strings.

It is not just about non-compliance -- we agree that if that were the only issue we could write enough condemnations to fill a library. And, it's not just about the self-commendation attempt. It is the total body of work, along with their continued efforts to (1) repeal GAR #2, (2) make compliance selective for all, and (3) arm the WA, that we feel the nation deserves this condemnation.

A sincere thanks for your comments, Ambassador.

Oh, Wrapper, how naive you are. Other than Ramaeus' and Eist' drafts, many if not all of the other commendations/condemnations are written by their own puppet or in a spirit of back-slapping (maybe commend for commend? who knows?)

Now you know what EnE is terribly irritated by something called the SC.

[Abacathea]

I'm inclined to disagree, but I find the SC to be my stomping grounds a little bit, and I like it over here

[Wrapper]

Oh, Wrapper, how naive you are.

Well, now, to be fair, our delegation has been asleep for most of the past ten years, so....

[Rotwood]

Though we normally abstain from voting on SC resolutions (sorry, this place has become a joke), if this came to vote we would vote against. Due to their acts and actions, the less said about this nation the better lest it further bolsters their ego...

[Hakio]

This is a surprisingly convincing argument, but as much as I don't like the guy I don't think I could ever condemn him

Agreed. He screwed up and admitted his mistake. Let the man fall into obscurity.

He's come back with a puppet to do his bidding.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=worl ... king_group

[Hakio]

So he also lied to us when he said he would be retiring. (You can add that )

[Chester Pearson]

So he also lied to us when he said he would be retiring. (You can add that )

That would be metagaming. You cannot reference the player.... Please learn the rules.

[Normlpeople]

I'd be against it. Yes, he screwed up pretty hard with the deception, I do, however, agree with every one of those repeals mentioned and supported all of them, so why would I condemn him for passing them?

As far the screw up, people make mistakes. Lets see if he learns from it.

[Sedgistan]

So he also lied to us when he said he would be retiring. (You can add that )

That would be metagaming. You cannot reference the player.... Please learn the rules.

Actually, it could be mentioned legally - along the lines of "...nation declared it intended to retire from international affairs, yet..."

[Wrapper]

As far the screw up, people make mistakes. Lets see if he learns from it.

Thank you for your comments, but we believe the lesson has not been learned, based on their membership in this so-called "working group" (apparently, so far, a group of one nation, Auralia) that continues a push to repeal GAR#2, so they can skirt international law and arm the WA.

[Wrapper]

That would be metagaming. You cannot reference the player.... Please learn the rules.

Actually, it could be mentioned legally - along the lines of "...nation declared it intended to retire from international affairs, yet..."

Interesting... we hadn't thought of that. Not sure such a clause would be defensible, though -- the ambassador, if our memories are true, said he would "probably" retire. Best to leave it out, we think.

[Normlpeople]

As far the screw up, people make mistakes. Lets see if he learns from it.

Thank you for your comments, but we believe the lesson has not been learned, based on their membership in this so-called "working group" (apparently, so far, a group of one nation, Auralia) that continues a push to repeal GAR#2, so they can skirt international law and arm the WA.

We shall see, but I would like to point out that he was in this "working group" and pushing for that repeal long before this debacle. Should his repeal pass, however, that shifts my support toward the condemnation.

[Wrapper]

Thank you for your comments, but we believe the lesson has not been learned, based on their membership in this so-called "working group" (apparently, so far, a group of one nation, Auralia) that continues a push to repeal GAR#2, so they can skirt international law and arm the WA.

We shall see, but I would like to point out that he was in this "working group" and pushing for that repeal long before this debacle. Should his repeal pass, however, that shifts my support toward the condemnation.

Correct... but now they have submitted the repeal proposal. It's reached quorum and is in queue.

[Wrapper]

Been toying with the CONCERNED clause, thinking of replacing it with:

CONCERNED that, since its expulsion, the nation, as the founder and controlling member of a purported coalition of nations called the World Assembly Charter Working Group, has regained membership in the WA in order to continue its efforts to decimate this institution via further repeals;

This should not imply that the WACWG was formed after its expulsion (it only states that this was their avenue back into the WA), and replaces "ruse" (intended misdirection, implying a proven fact) with "purported" (an unsubstantiated claim, not necessarily proven).