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Postby Korintar » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:14 pm

I was working with a student the other day and he asked an interesting question which has perplexed me. One of the problems involved a square inside another square- in effect, creating a hole in the larger, shaded in, square. What this student wanted to know was what is the technical term the shape formed by the shaded area. My best guess was a fractal- but that clearly was not right, and he did not think it could possibly be a concave polygon, but we agreed it was a polygon. To the mathematicians of NSG, what are your thoughts?
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:15 pm

42

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Postby The Corparation » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:15 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:42

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Postby Korintar » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:23 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:42


Seriously, guys :p

The equations for area and perimeter (my best guess) are as follows:

A=S12-S22

P=4S1+4S2

Where A is the area of the shaded region, P is perimeter, S1 is the length of the side of the outer square and S2 being the side length of the inner square.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:34 pm

I don't see how that'd be concave...
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Postby Vetalia » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:48 pm

Wouldn't it be a...square? As far as I know, any square ever drawn in the history of geometry is in theory contained within a larger square, ad infinitum.

For the larger square containing it, I believe it would be a polygon. Nothing suggests otherwise.
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Postby Risottia » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:49 pm

I would call it a square annulus, in analogy with the (circular) annulus.
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Postby The Corparation » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:53 pm

A sqaure picture frame?
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Postby Korintar » Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:19 pm

Risottia wrote:I would call it a square annulus, in analogy with the (circular) annulus.


Thanks, the kid I'm working with asks some very interesting questions sometimes, and sometimes they are beyond my understanding or about things that I haven't thought about that deeply.
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