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Postby Gauthier » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:14 pm

BREAKING: U.S. Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Anti-Abortion Law HB 2

Striking a decisive blow against back door abortion bans in the State of Texas, the United States Supreme Court has ruled that House Bill 2- which required abortion providers to have admitting privileges to a hospital within 30 miles and required abortion clinics to meet surgical center standards- placed unfair burden on women and struck the bill down.

In a historic victory for reproductive rights, the U.S. Supreme Court has struck down two key parts of Texas’ draconian omnibus law, House Bill 2.

In a 5-3 ruling – with swing vote Justice Anthony Kennedy siding with liberal judges – the high court ruled HB 2 unconstitutional and an undue burden on women seeking abortion. The ruling ends a long struggle for Texas women and health providers.

“Both the admitting privileges and the surgical center requirements place a substantial obstacle in the path of women seeking a previability abortion, constitute an undue burden on abortion access, and thus violate the Constitution,” wrote Justice Stephen Breyer for the majority opinion.


This is great news, as the Supreme Court decision shuts down future attempts in red states to engineer back door bans on abortions. Legalizing gay marriage and now this, all that's needed for a hat trick is for them to strike down bathroom bills as unconstitutional.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:15 pm

Wow, looks like Texas has moved out of the 19th century at last! 20th century here we come!
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:15 pm

Good. Seems like it would not have mattered even if Scalia where still alive.
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Postby Khadgar » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:15 pm

I'll admit I was surprised but very pleased.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:16 pm

This is good news, good on SCOTUS.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:16 pm

Took them long enough.

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Postby Great Georgianian » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:17 pm

So killing one's child ins now legal in canada

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Postby Traditional Conservative Justice » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:18 pm

The commie liberals strike again. The marriage thing, now this? What is this world coming to!? Might as well head down to my underground bunker with all of my ma' guns and wait out the apocalypse until somebody makes 'Murica great again.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:19 pm

Great Georgianian wrote:So killing one's child ins now legal in canada


This is relevant to abortion in Texas how?

Traditional Conservative Justice wrote:The commie liberals strike again. The marriage thing, now this? What is this world coming to!? Might as well head down to my underground bunker with all of my ma' guns and wait out the apocalypse until somebody makes 'Murica great again.


This sounds more like sarcasm then a parody.
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Postby Great Kauthar » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:20 pm

yeah lets legalise murder because women are too lazy to stay on the pill. If you can't deal with a baby, don't have sex. Simple as that.
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Postby Godular » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:22 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:yeah lets legalise murder because women are too lazy to stay on the pill. If you can't deal with a baby, don't have sex. Simple as that.


It ain't murder. Contraception can fail. Consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy. Simple as that.

ON ANOTHER NOTE

We're already discussing this in the dedicated abortion thread, why for was this thread deemed necessary?
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Postby Renoa » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:25 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:yeah lets legalise murder because women are too lazy to stay on the pill. If you can't deal with a baby, don't have sex. Simple as that.

Yeah, make unwilling mothers, unwanted children, and more people to be a burden on your wallet when it comes to tax time! That'll teach 'em!
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Postby The Imperium of Northern America » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:26 pm

I doubt Texas will acknowledge this Unconstitutional decision. The Godless courts won't rule them forever.

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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:29 pm

The Imperium of Northern America wrote:I doubt Texas will acknowledge this Unconstitutional decision. The Godless courts won't rule them forever.


It is impossible for the Supreme Court to make an unconstitutional decision. What the Supreme Court rules is by definition Constitutional.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:31 pm

The Imperium of Northern America wrote:I doubt Texas will acknowledge this Unconstitutional decision. The Godless courts won't rule them forever.

Unconstitutional decision? Pray tell what the hell makes this unconstitutional? Because the constitution I have read says the the Supreme Court of the United States overrides any state or federal laws and I don't remember any where in the constitution that says abortion must be illegal.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:32 pm

And, thus, we return to a regime of Wild Western abortions, unique in the developed world. Very disappointing.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:32 pm

I don't understand what's unconstitutional about having admitting privileges to a hospital, and being required to hold standards equal to those of any other medical clinic. This is supposed to be about women's health care, right? Wouldn't you want a clinic to be at the standards of any other hospital? And admitting privileges are for in-case the abortion goes wrong, right?

This makes no sense.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:33 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:And, thus, we return to a regime of Wild Western abortions, unique in the developed world. Very disappointing.


Wild West abortions? What's that?
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Postby Great Kauthar » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:33 pm

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The Imperium of Northern America wrote:I doubt Texas will acknowledge this Unconstitutional decision. The Godless courts won't rule them forever.


It is impossible for the Supreme Court to make an unconstitutional decision. What the Supreme Court rules is by definition Constitutional.

Two of these members of the supreme court were appointed by Obama it's pretty much established that he hates the constitution, so anything is possible.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:34 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:And, thus, we return to a regime of Wild Western abortions, unique in the developed world. Very disappointing.

Wild West abortions? What's that?

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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:34 pm

Luminesa wrote:I don't understand what's unconstitutional about having admitting privileges to a hospital, and being required to hold standards equal to those of any other medical clinic.

No other medical clinic was required to rise to these standards except abortion providers.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:34 pm

If the republican justices had sense, they'd have gone with the majority and asked to pen the decision, and made a big song and dance over how laws clearly specifically designed to make excercising a constitutional right such a mess that it can't be excercised are illegal in the decision.

Then later brought it up as precedent to Hillaries inane gun proposal.

But no, let's just keep flogging the dead abortion horse as though the democrat justices are going to suddenly turn theocrat.
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Postby Dinake » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:34 pm

1) This belongs in the pre-existing abortion thread.
2) Abortion was already legal in Texas. Requiring abortion mills to be able to handle things quickly if something goes wrong is not much of a restriction.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:35 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:And, thus, we return to a regime of Wild Western abortions, unique in the developed world. Very disappointing.


Wild West abortions? What's that?


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