UK Politics Thread III: Thready McThreadface (+ Jo Cox)

[Philjia]

Not every village has something like that. Most places where I live have an old miner's hall, but not everywhere has one.

Is there a limit on how small a municipality can be in Britain? Do they not require town halls, or any other institution of the State?

Most small villages have polling stations of their own. By and large, small villages do not possess municipal buildings; the council operates entirely centrally.

[Wolfmanne2]

Because it's Britain, we got to have shit like this.

What town doesn't have municipal buildings?

British ones.

[Hydesland]

Is there a limit on how small a municipality can be in Britain? Do they not require town halls, or any other institution of the State?

It's not about there being town halls or not. Even if there are town halls, it's designed to be split up into multiple polling stations rather than everyone going to one town hall (to avoid queues etc..).

[Philjia]

Is there a limit on how small a municipality can be in Britain? Do they not require town halls, or any other institution of the State?

It's not about there being town halls or not. Even if there are town halls, it's designed to be split up into multiple polling stations rather than everyone going to one town hall (to avoid queues etc..).

Also because some large authorities are fairly large and voting at somewhere central would be a long-ish journey.

[Eastfield Lodge]

Do you not have town halls, municipal buildings, buildings of the State in Britain? Why vote in a church, or a trailer?

We use lots of very small polling stations all over the UK that serve a few blocks of residents, rather than serving a larger area with fewer polling stations. Since there isn't a town hall or government building in every area, often churches, historical sites, schools, museums, cafes/pubs etc... are used instead.

There's one in there which is someone's living room!
Also, why am I not surprised Hull's using a bus for one of its stations?

[The Nihilistic view]

Municipal buildings as Polling stations are a dangerous continental idea anyway.

[Olerand]

Do you not have town halls, municipal buildings, buildings of the State in Britain? Why vote in a church, or a trailer?

We use lots of very small polling stations all over the UK that serve a few blocks of residents, rather than serving a larger area with fewer polling stations. Since there isn't a town hall or government building in every area, often churches, historical sites, schools, museums, cafes/pubs etc... are used instead.

Hum... I don't like the idea. It's quaint, but not good.

Is there a limit on how small a municipality can be in Britain? Do they not require town halls, or any other institution of the State?

Most small villages have polling stations of their own. By and large, small villages do not possess municipal buildings; the council operates entirely centrally.

The municipal council? Are there no municipal councils in Britain?

Is there a limit on how small a municipality can be in Britain? Do they not require town halls, or any other institution of the State?

It's not about there being town halls or not. Even if there are town halls, it's designed to be split up into multiple polling stations rather than everyone going to one town hall (to avoid queues etc..).

Hm.

Municipal buildings as Polling stations are a dangerous continental idea anyway.

Very true. I would also love the people to vote in a porta potty. Or fail that, a laundromat.

[Rufford]

Sun's front page was brilliant this morning. One the polling stations thing, i think its the only time anyone goes near the run down council building.

[Ifreann]

Municipal buildings as Polling stations are a dangerous continental idea anyway.

Seconded. My local polling place is in the primary school, which was great when I was young because we'd get a day off whenever there was a vote for something.

[Souseiseki]

it's easier to take a quick walk to a local school/church than get a fucking 45 minute bus trip + walk (90 if we count going back) to the city centre

[Olerand]

it's easier to take a quick walk to a local school/church than get a fucking 45 minute bus trip + walk (90 if we count going back) to the city centre

I don't understand. How small/big are towns or villages in Britain? Do small towns and villages... Not have a municipal council or anything?

[Ifreann]

it's easier to take a quick walk to a local school/church than get a fucking 45 minute bus trip + walk (90 if we count going back) to the city centre

I don't understand. How small/big are towns or villages in Britain? Do small towns and villages... Not have a municipal council or anything?

Some do.

[Frank Zipper]

it's easier to take a quick walk to a local school/church than get a fucking 45 minute bus trip + walk (90 if we count going back) to the city centre

I don't understand. How small/big are towns or villages in Britain? Do small towns and villages... Not have a municipal council or anything?

Wikipedia says:

"A parish council is a civil local authority found in England and is the lowest, or first, tier of local government.[1] They are elected corporate bodies, have variable tax raising powers, and are responsible for areas known as civil parishes, serving in total 16 million people. A parish council serving a town may be called a town council, and a parish council serving a city is styled a city council; these bodies have the same powers, duties and status as a parish council.

Parish and town councils vary enormously in size, activities and circumstances, representing populations ranging from less than 100 (small rural hamlets) to up to 70,000 (Weston-Super-Mare Town Council). Most of them are small: around 80% represent populations of less than 2,500."

Municipal buildings like schools, community centres, libraries (if any are left) are used as polling stations, as well as things like church halls and scout huts.

[Valaran]

it's easier to take a quick walk to a local school/church than get a fucking 45 minute bus trip + walk (90 if we count going back) to the city centre

I don't understand. How small/big are towns or villages in Britain?

Its more that they developed differently - the industrial revolution meant a new kind of urbanisation for the UK, that ensured towns sprung up without the traditional nucleus where a town hall would be (similarly different types of urbanisation have happened since then as well), or they were simply engulfed by conurbations. The UK's urban layout is different from France's in this regard, so we have city clusters (Manchester), 'new' towns (Milton Keynes), London, and some old regional towns (like Norwich, or York). I'm oversimplifying it, of course.

Villages are different matter.

[Souseiseki]

it's easier to take a quick walk to a local school/church than get a fucking 45 minute bus trip + walk (90 if we count going back) to the city centre

I don't understand. How small/big are towns or villages in Britain? Do small towns and villages... Not have a municipal council or anything?

just to be clear i live in the biggest city in scotland

how the hell do you vote in somewhere like paris

e: actually i think you already did before but please explain your voting system to me

[Hydesland]

Are you there Archie? I think one of the threads should be locked so all discussion can be contained in one thread.

[Valaran]

Are you there Archie? I think one of the threads should be locked so all discussion can be contained in one thread.

We only have two threads though. Surely the referendum is deserving of its thread?

[Olerand]

I don't understand. How small/big are towns or villages in Britain? Do small towns and villages... Not have a municipal council or anything?

Some do.

I've seen that movie! It was not good.

I don't understand. How small/big are towns or villages in Britain? Do small towns and villages... Not have a municipal council or anything?

Wikipedia says:

"A parish council is a civil local authority found in England and is the lowest, or first, tier of local government.[1] They are elected corporate bodies, have variable tax raising powers, and are responsible for areas known as civil parishes, serving in total 16 million people. A parish council serving a town may be called a town council, and a parish council serving a city is styled a city council; these bodies have the same powers, duties and status as a parish council.

Parish and town councils vary enormously in size, activities and circumstances, representing populations ranging from less than 100 (small rural hamlets) to up to 70,000 (Weston-Super-Mare Town Council). Most of them are small: around 80% represent populations of less than 2,500."

Municipal buildings like schools, community centres, libraries (if any are left) are used as polling stations, as well as things like church halls and scout huts.

So municipal buildings do exist? No need to use private property or religious grounds (although in Britain the religious thing is of course less important than in France).

I don't understand. How small/big are towns or villages in Britain?

Its more that they developed differently - the industrial revolution meant a new kind of urbanisation for the UK, that ensured towns sprung up without the traditional nucleus where a town hall would be (similarly different types of urbanisation have happened since then as well), or they were simply engulfed by conurbations. The UK's urban layout is different from France's in this regard, so we have city clusters (Manchester), 'new' towns (Milton Keynes), London, and some old regional towns (like Norwich, or York). I'm oversimplifying it, of course.

Villages are different matter.

So can a village not have a municipal council?

I don't understand. How small/big are towns or villages in Britain? Do small towns and villages... Not have a municipal council or anything?

just to be clear i live in the biggest city in scotland

how the hell do you vote in somewhere like paris

e: actually i think you already did before but please explain your voting system to me

Paris is broken up into several arrondissements. Each of these arrondissements have a municipal administration, with a mayor and all. You vote in those municipal buildings. But Paris is similar only to Lyon and Marseille in this regard. Other towns/cities don't have these arrondissements. It is the responsibility of the communes (municipalities) to organize the bureaux de vote (voting location), and the location of the bureau is set by prefectoral decree from the préfet of the département (county almost, or shire, or whatever the hell you call them in Britain).

In small communes, the bureau is usually in the town hall, only. Otherwise, in larger towns and cities, they are in municipal buildings, most often schools, as we vote on Sunday and there are no classes.

[Wolfmanne2]

Oh heck.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06 ... endum-day/

[Olerand]

Oh heck.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06 ... endum-day/

Damn it. He couldn't have said this earlier. Now his opinion doesn't matter!!! It's too late. For once that he actually should have spoken.

[Valaran]

Oh heck.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06 ... endum-day/

Dodged a bullet there

[Conscentia]

Are you there Archie? I think one of the threads should be locked so all discussion can be contained in one thread.

The referendum's thread will likely die soon after tomorrow. A lock probably won't be needed.

[Hydesland]

Are you there Archie? I think one of the threads should be locked so all discussion can be contained in one thread.

The referendum's thread will likely die soon after tomorrow. A lock probably won't be needed.

I'm talking about discussing regarding the EU referendum specifically.

[Olerand]

Oh heck.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06 ... endum-day/

Dodged a bullet there

Britain also chooses to be somewhat soft on these people. We deport people like that from France regularly, and we're in the EU. The ways we do that might be a bit shady but oh well!

[Valaran]

Dodged a bullet there

Britain also chooses to be somewhat soft on these people. We deport people like that from France regularly, and we're in the EU. The ways we do that might be a bit shady but oh well!

Don't worry, May loves to deport them when she gets the chance to. She'll be extra shady.