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PARADOX INTERACTIVE VS CREATIVE ASSEMBLY

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Paradox Interactive VS Creative Assembly

Postby New Tuva SSR » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:30 pm

In light of Total War's free weekend on Steam,I have decided to bring up a topic already no doubt ventured to countless times...the age old argument of Paradox Interactive VS Creative Assembly.Any gamer will tell you that these two companies are the some of the best game developers on PC.

PARADOX INTERACTIVE: Paradox Interactive,the studio who brought you such games as Europa Universalis 4 and Victoria II,who have themselves have become some of the biggest game names on PC.

CREATIVE ASSEMBLY: Creative Assembly's claim to fame is the renowned Total War series.They have given you games such as Total War: Shogun 2 and Total War: Rome II.

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Postby Reddogkeno101 » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:58 pm

Paradox Interactive. They are love and life. They have shown us the way.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:00 pm

They go for different areas.
PI is more strategy oriented while the TW games are a mix of strategic and tactical.

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Postby Ruridova » Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:01 pm

This is a tough one... I've played the most recent versions of the Paradox grand campaign games(Crusader Kings 2, Europa Universalis 4, Victoria 2, Hearts of Iron 3) as well as March of the Eagles and Darkest Hour, and I've dabbled with Mount and Blade Warband; I've also played several of the Total War games, including Rome II, Shogun II, Napoleon, Empire, and Medieval II. They're all very good games. However, if I have to pick, I must admit to preferring Paradox's style of strategy games to Creative Assembly's.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:28 pm

Ruridova wrote:This is a tough one... I've played the most recent versions of the Paradox grand campaign games(Crusader Kings 2, Europa Universalis 4, Victoria 2, Hearts of Iron 3) as well as March of the Eagles and Darkest Hour, and I've dabbled with Mount and Blade Warband; I've also played several of the Total War games, including Rome II, Shogun II, Napoleon, Empire, and Medieval II. They're all very good games. However, if I have to pick, I must admit to preferring Paradox's style of strategy games to Creative Assembly's.

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Postby Shaggai » Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:30 pm

As far as I know, the Total War games don't let you convert Ireland to an obscure Afghan pagan religion that historically was wiped out in the 800s. 0/10.
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Postby Maltropia » Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:31 pm

As Delegate for Paradoxia and owner of the nation Paradox, I think my opinion here should be rather obvious. :p
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Postby Bohemia Minor » Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:32 pm

Eu4's DLC policy has become somewhat of a disgrace, putting vital functions like FUCKING DEVELOPMENT which are both vital and in the base game, but require a DLC in order to use, not to mention that the DLC has a bunch of other gimmicky stuff I don't want. Same with fleet upgrades in art of war and support independence in CoP. At least make a package that gives all these vital features and none of the crap, or better still, put them in the base game and up the damn price.
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Postby Kalatun » Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:32 pm

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Postby Shaggai » Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:34 pm

Bohemia Minor wrote:Eu4's DLC policy has become somewhat of a disgrace, putting vital functions like FUCKING DEVELOPMENT which are both vital and in the base game, but require a DLC in order to use, not to mention that the DLC has a bunch of other gimmicky stuff I don't want. Same with fleet upgrades in art of war and support independence in CoP. At least make a package that gives all these vital features and none of the crap, or better still, put them in the base game and up the damn price.

So you think that they should either give you (and everyone else who has already bought the game) all of their new features for free, or else come up with a package pandering to your personal views on what content is gimmicky and what is vital?
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:45 pm

Paradox even though they go kinda crazy with the DLC and sometimes have buggy patches that break save games.

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Postby The Carlisle » Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:46 pm

Paradox lets you edit the map. So paradox wins.
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Postby SuperFruitland » Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:49 pm

Bohemia Minor wrote:or better still, put them in the base game and up the damn price.


taking out all of the stuff dealt with by other posters, how would upping the price affect someone who bought the game in, say, 1.6-1.7?

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Postby Kelinfort » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:52 pm

Paradox, hands down. The total war series is fun, but I prefer depth and more historical meaning in the EU and Victoria series.

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Postby Benuty » Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:01 pm

Kelinfort wrote:Paradox, hands down. The total war series is fun, but I prefer depth and more historical meaning in the EU and Victoria series.

Yeah.

Empire Total War is great for the battle mechanics (something Paradox needs), but is pretty bad when it comes to actual support mechanics. I mean just giving France one city in the base game is rather lazy even with all the differences that tend to be better than CK2.

To be honest though the historical portion is won by Paradox by a long shot.
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Postby Finland SSR » Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:23 pm

I tried TW once (the Rome one), and I didn't like it that much. I mean, it's not a bad or terrible game, just not my style.

Paradox is still better to me. Grand strategy is grand for a pretty damn good reason.
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Postby Conalia » Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:39 pm

I liked CA until they pulled a Ubisoft and had the launch for Rome 2 be terrible. I'm boycotting TW until they make a game on the level of Medieval 2. Paradox all the way.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:42 pm

I like Shogun 2 and its expansions.

But you can conquer the world in EU3. Convert them into your vassals and forcing them to allying with you and help you, unlike certain mechanism in Shogun 2, but not in Rise and Fall. Medieval 2 was a bad playthrough for me.

So yeah, Paradox.
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Postby Meryuma » Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:55 pm

CK2 is love, CK2 is life.

Haven't played TW; planning on trying out Shogun tonight and maybe Rome or Medieval tomorrow while everything's still free.

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Postby Liriena » Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:13 am

Definitely Paradox, though I do wish the two would have a baby together someday. It could be beautiful. :P
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Postby Bentrada » Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:28 am

Paradox. No questions asked.

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Postby Olivaero » Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:27 am

The minute Creative assembly games allow you to do something like a mega campaign then we might have our selves a contest but paradox have set themselves the gargantuan task of modelling what is it 1200 ish years of history throughout 4 different games. With varying success true but the shear ambition and attention to detail throughout that entire time is much more impressive than anything Creative assembly have done. They left out South America and East Asia in a game about the 1700's. I ain't never forgiving them for that.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:53 am

Liriena wrote:Definitely Paradox, though I do wish the two would have a baby together someday. It could be beautiful. :P

This sounds about right.
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Postby Finland SSR » Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:55 am

Mostrov wrote:Its also blobbing the game in all of its franchises.

To be fair, it's only the case if you have nothing better to do. Or play with the mindset of a Risk game player.

And why can't people just get over the cancellation of EvW? It's been like, months. There are reasons for why it happened.
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