[DRAFT] The Act of Petroleum Suppression

[Zolir]

Description: BELIEVING that petroleum has far too long been a source of corruption and monetary gain for industries in trade of environmental damage,

UNDERSTANDING that petroleum is a strong source of income for many countries,

NOTING that petroleum is a mined material and the conversion of Petroleum into crude oil creates many jobs,

ACKNOWLEDGING that petroleum is one of the leading causes of environmental damage,

REALIZING the fact that petroleum has a strong hold on capitalism and capitalist economies,

AWARE that the banning and destruction of all petroleum related materials, objects, and forms would heavily desaturate several economies,

CONCEDING the fact that petroleum can be replaced by a stronger more efficient material and poses a threat to both regions and the world as a whole,

Hereby,

DECREES the production and use of petroleum, or similarly related fuels, to be banned, and;

Therefore,

MANDATES the following:

a) Directing all appropriate funds towards the destruction of petroleum, petroleum products, and fuels of a similar form,
b) Directing all appropriate funds towards obtaining access to a substance of less environmental harm, researching solutions to replace petroleum, and utilizing all appropriate funds to assist member nations in the replacement of petroleum, petroleum products, and fuels of a similar form,
c) Sharing all research and relevant information conducted and found with member nations to revolutionize the energy industry,
d) Advising member nations based on aforementioned research measures,
e) Funding and directing education measures, in coordination with governments of member nations and other relevant institutions that promote the overcoming of petroleum dependency,

REQUIRES that all member nations must remove any petroleum, petroleum products, and fuels of a similar form from the market,

REQUESTS that member nations offer incentives for innovations and solutions to solve petroleum dependency;

STRONGLY URGES member nations to set prices for new primary source of monetary gain (when discovered) to a feasible level to ensure affordability.
Approvals: 4 (Light-Keepers, Free Law, Topiaitis, Zolir)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 61 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days

[Sierra Lyricalia]

Please edit the thread title to read [SUBMITTED] instead of [QUORUM]. This has not reached quorum and is not going to.

[Louisistan]

"Rrright.... If this passes we will decommission all cars and ships and then we will do.... what exactly?"

[Wrapper]

Welcome to the Festering Snakepit! Now, prepare to be thrashed mercilously.

This has not achieved quorum, so please edit that to say "SUBMITTED" -- which, by the way, you shouldn't have done yet. This has zero chance of passing, because, in our opinion, it is ILLEGAL under GAR #68, National Economic Freedoms. By immediately seizing and destroying all petroleum products, you are shutting down about 99.9% of all motor vehicle, air and sea transportation. Doing so would shut down virtually all commerce. Under GAR #68, the WA cannot generally restrict commerce (as this proposal would do) unless it causes an extreme hazard to national populations. Now... how exactly would the use of petroleum cause an extreme hazard to national populations?

Before you answer, keep in mind that if you are destroying 100% of all petroleum products, the safest and most efficient way is to burn them... which would cause just as much harm to people and the environment, maybe even moreso, than using them on a daily basis would. Could you imagine the CO and CO₂ generated if we had to destroy 100% of the world's petroleum products, all at once?

Not to mention, you have some nonsensical stuff in here as well -- prime example, petroleum isn't mined, and it isn't converted to crude oil.

Please, for your own sake, contact the Secretariat and ask to have your submission pulled, before they pull it for you for illegalities and slap you with a WA warning (we believe it's three warnings and you are ejected from the WA).

[Separatist Peoples]

"You want us to dismantle an entire infrastructure and several industries and then sit around with a shot economy on the off chance that a better fuel source will magically appear? You're insane. Literally certifiable. This will never pass."

[Zolir]

"If you will note, it doesn't say the immediate removal of all petroleum products. In fact, it would slowly lead into it to allow research. However, in the long run, this proposal is extremely helpful to both technology, economic systems, and pollution. Oil is a simple and crude source of energy, one that will eventually be completely extinguished and needs to find a replacement, albeit a quick one. In the case of replacing it with something more powerful (I'll use uranium in this example), we would be able to produce more energy with less as it would be so vast in energetic quality. Oil takes thousands of gallons to produce small amounts of electricity making it a crummy resource. The means in which it is refined are vast, and though they are effective, they are inefficient. Economically, oil stops other sources of possible energy from being capable of finding a foothold in the global economy, it also is a strong factor in the field of capitalism and gives corporations a much stronger hold on the public than need be. Replacing it would not only be environmentally helpful, but also economically helpful. I plead that you approve the proposal: The Petroleum Annihilation Act."

[Zolir]

All right, in that case could I try and have a proposal submitted that requests that countries attempt to MOVE AWAY from petroleum products and put forward funding to finding a safer, more environmentally healthy product to replace it?

[Louisistan]

"Newsflash, Ambassador: Resolution effects are immediate, so when you write

DECREES the production and use of petroleum, or similarly related fuels, to be banned, and;

you do in fact ban all use of petroleum immediately. The law does what the law says, after all."

[Zolir]

Can I make an edit to say decrees to suppress the use of Petroleum?

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Can I make an edit to say decrees to suppress the use of Petroleum?

No. Once submitted, it cannot be edited. You should have had a discussion on the illegalities of this proposal before submitting it.

[Chester Pearson]

Well technically drilling for crude, or natural gas is a form of mining, but the last time I checked crude is turned into petroleum products, not the other way around....

[Zolir]

Well, would you be more ... partial ... to it, if I remade it to suppress the use and production of petroleum rather than entirely restrict?

[Separatist Peoples]

Can I make an edit to say decrees to suppress the use of Petroleum?

"Why? If we had adequate measures of offsetting pollution in the first place, why shouldn't we keep using petroleum?"

[The Federal Triumvirate of Xing]

"I agree with this act. Petroleum is extremely detrimental to humanity. I mean, we have the funds to constantly sustain the environment, but why should we have to? Why not just replace oil and then not have to put money towards getting rid of pollution? This law is good in concept."

[Louisistan]

"I agree with this act. Petroleum is extremely detrimental to humanity. I mean, we have the funds to constantly sustain the environment, but why should we have to? Why not just replace oil and then not have to put money towards getting rid of pollution? This law is good in concept."

"Riiiiiight. What do cars run on in your nation? Rainbows and unicorn whispers?"

[The United sky]

we should still petrol in the meantime while we build more sustainable energy sources (algae) (wind power)(solar power) and generally let oil live out a half life decline as we replace it with the above mentioned energy sources over time. banning it outright would KILL the world economy outright.

"Riiiiiight. What do cars run on in your nation? Rainbows and unicorn whispers?"

electric cars have proven themselves to be a totally fine form of transport. srsly electric cars ain't the thing of tomorrow THEY ARE ALREADY HERE http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=& ... 7589,d.cGU

and solar panels(though expensive(due to them not being mass produced) can charge houses over time. wind farms are (again) already proven to be a viable form of power and are already being used industrially http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=& ... GU&cad=rja

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Author, edit the title. They took down your proposal from the quorom. It's illegalities follow for a small amount of legalities

[Sierra Lyricalia]

4 minutes ago: The proposal "Petroleum Annihilation Act" was removed from the floor.

Was this yanked or did you, understanding that it was not suitable for submission, request its removal?

If you intend at some point (some much, much later point, like weeks or months down the line) to resubmit this, it's now back in [DRAFT] status.

[Wrapper]

"Riiiiiight. What do cars run on in your nation? Rainbows and unicorn whispers?"

electric cars have proven themselves to be a totally fine form of transport. srsly electric cars ain't the thing of tomorrow THEY ARE ALREADY HERE

OOC: And, you power electric cars with batteries. And how is electricity generated to recharge those batteries? I'd guess at least 80% of electrical generation in the world comes from coal, petroleum, and nuclear energy, none of which are renewable resources, and all of which contribute to pollution.

Creating incentives to develop alternative, renewable means of energy, thus reducing the reliance on coal, oil, and nuclear material, should be encouraged. Total elimination of one type of energy will never work, not in the real world and not in NS.

[Sierra Lyricalia]

electric cars have proven themselves to be a totally fine form of transport. srsly electric cars ain't the thing of tomorrow THEY ARE ALREADY HERE

OOC: And, you power electric cars with batteries. And how is electricity generated to recharge those batteries? I'd guess at least 80% of electrical generation in the world comes from coal, petroleum, and nuclear energy, none of which are renewable resources, and all of which contribute to pollution.

Creating incentives to develop alternative, renewable means of energy, thus reducing the reliance on coal, oil, and nuclear material, should be encouraged. Total elimination of one type of energy will never work, not in the real world and not in NS.

OOC: Yah. There's just too many many many things all geared to run on combustion, and the best fuel for combustion happens to come from fossils. IRL, the only thing that's going to stop global warming at this point is geoengineering. And that's so even if the entire planet permanently stopped using fossil fuels of any kind at midnight tonight and switched over to non-carbon sources of energy. Best bet at this point is to make what has to be carbon-powered as efficient as possible, convert the rest to whatever works (some places that's wind, some places it's solar, some places it's hydroelectric, and we sure could use some nuclear reactors that aren't the most dangerous goddamn thing you can imagine), and start putting solar shades up in space between us and the sun. Of course, all of that is just as likely to happen politically as the sudden total stoppage of fossil fuel use. [/depressed rant] [/semi-threadjacking (only semi because the context should be useful for the OP)]

[The Federal Triumvirate of Xing]

Zolir requested that it be taken down. He's doing a quick edit of it.

[Sierra Lyricalia]

Zolir requested that it be taken down. He's doing a quick edit of it.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Zolir requested that it be taken down. He's doing a quick edit of it.

So he can make more illegalities?
He needs to properly make sure that a power source that is sometimes the only power source of a country is either limited or not affected at all.

[Zolir]

So, what if I did this?



Description: BELIEVING that petroleum has far too long been a source of corruption and monetary gain for industries in trade of environmental damage,

UNDERSTANDING that petroleum is a strong source of income for many countries,

NOTING that petroleum is a mined material and the conversion of Petroleum into crude oil creates many jobs,

ACKNOWLEDGING that petroleum is one of the leading causes of environmental damage,

REALIZING the fact that petroleum has a strong hold on capitalism and capitalist economies,

AWARE that the banning and destruction of all petroleum related materials, objects, and forms would heavily affect several economies,

CONCEDING the fact that petroleum can be replaced by a stronger more efficient material and poses a threat to both regions and the world as a whole,

Hereby,

DECREES the production and use of petroleum, or similarly related fuels, to be limited and suppressed, and;

Therefore,

MANDATES the following:

a) Directing all appropriate funds towards obtaining access to a substance of less environmental harm, researching solutions to replace petroleum, and utilizing all appropriate funds to assist member nations in the replacement of petroleum, petroleum products, and fuels of a similar form,
b) Sharing all research and relevant information conducted and found with member nations to revolutionize the energy industry,
c) Advising member nations based on aforementioned research measures,
d) Funding and directing education measures, in coordination with governments of member nations and other relevant institutions that promote the overcoming of petroleum dependency,
e) Removing petroleum from the market, while allowing owners of current petroleum products to continue using and owning said products.
f) Requiring that each nation upholds a "Clean the Earth" Clause, which would enforce a yearly environmental cleanup.

REQUIRES that all member nations must slowly work to replace any petroleum, petroleum products, and fuels of a similar form on the market,

REQUESTS that member nations offer incentives for innovations and solutions to solve petroleum dependency;

STRONGLY URGES member nations to set prices for new primary source of monetary gain (when discovered) to a feasible level to ensure affordability.

[Zolir]

So, I should say countries capable of providing such funds, and capable of getting along without petroleum must work towards finding better sources of energy?