Why are you not allowed Swastikas in your flag, but

[Ragnarokee]

You can name your nation/region Nazi blah blah blah. E.g. American Nazi Party, FascistNazis, Antarctic Space Nazis. So why are you not allowed Swastikas?

I'm not pro Nazi, I was just curious.

[Common Territories]

This the wrong area to discuss this rule.

But to answer your question: Max banned the flag (under most cases) because it is a common symbol of hatred. It symbolizes the crimes done under it by Nazi Germany and can be identified by anyone as a symbol of hatred. You can argue that it isn't, which officially the swastika isn't. But one country decided to ruin that by making it a symbol of hatred. And that is why it is banned here on NS by Max.

[Ragnarokee]

This the wrong area to discuss this rule.

But to answer your question: Max banned the flag (under most cases) because it is a common symbol of hatred. It symbolizes the crimes done under it by Nazi Germany and can be identified by anyone as a symbol of hatred. You can argue that it isn't, which officially the swastika isn't. But one country decided to ruin that by making it a symbol of hatred. And that is why it is banned here on NS by Max.

Under most cases? And sorry about it being in the wrong thread.

[Imperializt Russia]

This the wrong area to discuss this rule.

But to answer your question: Max banned the flag (under most cases) because it is a common symbol of hatred. It symbolizes the crimes done under it by Nazi Germany and can be identified by anyone as a symbol of hatred. You can argue that it isn't, which officially the swastika isn't. But one country decided to ruin that by making it a symbol of hatred. And that is why it is banned here on NS by Max.

Under most cases? And sorry about it being in the wrong thread.

Well, swastikas in flags are banned under all circumstances, actually.
There is no way around it, even using the non-Nazi-affiliated swastikas (I prefer using the term "the Hakenkreuz" with capital, to make it very obvious I'm talking about "that swastika"). I thought that used to be allowed, but either I was wrong or it was closed as a pro-Nazi loophole.

[Ragnarokee]

Under most cases? And sorry about it being in the wrong thread.

Well, swastikas in flags are banned under all circumstances, actually.
There is no way around it, even using the non-Nazi-affiliated swastikas (I prefer using the term "the Hakenkreuz" with capital, to make it very obvious I'm talking about "that swastika"). I thought that used to be allowed, but either I was wrong or it was closed as a pro-Nazi loophole.

Ah okay - thanks to you both for clearing that up.

[Gigaverse]

Under most cases? And sorry about it being in the wrong thread.

Well, swastikas in flags are banned under all circumstances, actually.
There is no way around it, even using the non-Nazi-affiliated swastikas (I prefer using the term "the Hakenkreuz" with capital, to make it very obvious I'm talking about "that swastika"). I thought that used to be allowed, but either I was wrong or it was closed as a pro-Nazi loophole.

Actually, Swastikas covered in flowers, rainbows and all those shits are permitted.

[Balshvik]

You can name your nation/region Nazi blah blah blah. E.g. American Nazi Party, FascistNazis, Antarctic Space Nazis. So why are you not allowed Swastikas?

I'm not pro Nazi, I was just curious.

Because no one wants to see the Nazi shit. I doubt people want to go on game after they come home from school or work to relax and see a Nazi symbol. Nazism is a disgrace to humanity. The symbol "Swastika" is forver a symbol of pure evil.

[Germany and Prussia]

I think we need to take back the Swastika and return it to it`s originally use to what it was before the Nazis took it and ruined it.

[Balshvik]

I think we need to take back the Swastika and return it to it`s originally use to what it was before the Nazis took it and ruined it.

It's forever ruined beyond repair. Just throw it into the grave and forget about the symbol.

[Bunkeranlage]

You can name your nation/region Nazi blah blah blah. E.g. American Nazi Party, FascistNazis, Antarctic Space Nazis. So why are you not allowed Swastikas?

I'm not pro Nazi, I was just curious.

Because no one wants to see the Nazi shit. I doubt people want to go on game after they come home from school or work to relax and see a Nazi symbol. Nazism is a disgrace to humanity. The symbol "Swastika" is forver a symbol of pure evil.

He didn't ask why swastikas are banned, he asked why they are banned wen Nazi-themed nations are not.

Also, this doesn't belong here. I've asked the mods to move it.

[Kuki-Airani]

No Nazi symbols but this is okay; viewtopic.php?f=20&t=312555&start=150

[Bosakia]

And how do we allow the hammer and sickle? It's a symbol of tyranny and the communists killed more people than the capitalists!

[Andzhalswoodosia]

Swastkias are banned because everybody knows that Nazis committed the holocaust, a crime of humanity. Hitler is the modern day Satan. Period. End of story.

[Chilokver]

And how do we allow the hammer and sickle? It's a symbol of tyranny and the communists killed more people than the capitalists!

See FAQ... or was it the OSRS?

[Ragnarokee]

And how do we allow the hammer and sickle? It's a symbol of tyranny and the communists killed more people than the capitalists!

EXACTLY! This is why I made this thread (even though it's in the wrong place) the hammer and sickle are allowed, as are pro nazi nations/regions but the actual symbol its self is banned?

No Nazi symbols but this is okay; viewtopic.php?f=20&t=312555&start=150

This.. I can't even xD

[Maltropia]

I was going to upload a nazi communist flag onto my communist/0 political freedoms/civil rights etc etc nation - thanks for clearing it up. Would've got banned.

You'd probably have had it removed, but I doubt you'd have been banned if it wasn't intended as malicious. Full guidelines on flags can be found here.

[Bunkeranlage]

And how do we allow the hammer and sickle? It's a symbol of tyranny and the communists killed more people than the capitalists!

EXACTLY! This is why I made this thread (even though it's in the wrong place) the hammer and sickle are allowed, as are pro nazi nations/regions but the actual symbol its self is banned?

The difference is that when people see swastikas, the first thing they think of is Adolf Hitler, the Holocaust, WWII, etc. Its negative meaning is more pervasive than its positive meanings.

The hammer and sickle is different in that when people see it, the first thing they would think of probably not be Holodomor or gulags. The Soviet crimes are not as well known as the Nazi war crimes.

[Bosakia]

EXACTLY! This is why I made this thread (even though it's in the wrong place) the hammer and sickle are allowed, as are pro nazi nations/regions but the actual symbol its self is banned?

The difference is that when people see swastikas, the first thing they think of is Adolf Hitler, the Holocaust, WWII, etc. Its negative meaning is more pervasive than its positive meanings.

The hammer and sickle is different in that when people see it, the first thing they would think of probably not be Holodomor or gulags. The Soviet crimes are not as well known as the Nazi war crimes.

Because the communists are denying the soviet crimes.

[Bunkeranlage]

The difference is that when people see swastikas, the first thing they think of is Adolf Hitler, the Holocaust, WWII, etc. Its negative meaning is more pervasive than its positive meanings.

The hammer and sickle is different in that when people see it, the first thing they would think of probably not be Holodomor or gulags. The Soviet crimes are not as well known as the Nazi war crimes.

Because the communists are denying the soviet crimes.

Nevertheless, most people wouldn't think of Soviet crimes when they see the hammer and sickle, unlike the swastika.

[Maltropia]

Because the communists are denying the soviet crimes.

Did you mean because the western world was never at war with Soviet Russia and thus exposed to its more reprehensible actions?

This isn't the place for this debate; if you're interested in what is by now the most thoroughly-beaten equine carcass around, take it to the General forum.

[Gigaverse]

And how do we allow the hammer and sickle? It's a symbol of tyranny and the communists killed more people than the capitalists!

EXACTLY! This is why I made this thread (even though it's in the wrong place) the hammer and sickle are allowed, as are pro nazi nations/regions but the actual symbol its self is banned?

Let this picture from where I live do the talking for ya.

EDIT: In other words, there are still in-name Communist regimes around, while there aren't any that uses the Nazi system.

EDIT 2: Not intentionally spamming, please don't ban me... ;~;

[Pandeeria]

This belongs in the Moderation sub-forum as a discussion thread.

Also, it's simply not happening. You gotta convince the almighty Max himself to change the rule. The mods are simply enforcing it.

[Dogs of War]

They are banned because they became a problem. Obviously they look cool. They give your nation an evil look and they geometrically fit into most flag designs. With these facts, it is not too difficult to imagine that a lot of people, left, right and middle used Nazi symbolism on their flags. And why not? You want to play Nazi-Germany? Have a Nazi-Germany flag! With this thinking more and more and even more nazi-style flags popped up. If you came from outside the Nationstates community. Let's say you are a teacher or what ever and you have a look at this site all you see is nazi symbolism everywhere. So, from the outside it appeared as if nationstates was some kind of racist forum with tons of neo-nazis plotting the use of WMDs. In this situation the decision came that all swastikas had to go. I personally think this was an okay decision. All those nazi flags caused a lot of tensions. Many outsiders confused actual rp with real believes and many other roll players were simply offended. An other good thing is that people now have to think more about their flags. How make it look “evil” or “fascist” without going for the cheapest possible solution. As you can see when you browse through nationstates they came up with some nice ideas.

[Ragnarokee]

They are banned because they became a problem. Obviously they look cool. They give your nation an evil look and they geometrically fit into most flag designs. With these facts, it is not too difficult to imagine that a lot of people, left, right and middle used Nazi symbolism on their flags. And why not? You want to play Nazi-Germany? Have a Nazi-Germany flag! With this thinking more and more and even more nazi-style flags popped up. If you came from outside the Nationstates community. Let's say you are a teacher or what ever and you have a look at this site all you see is nazi symbolism everywhere. So, from the outside it appeared as if nationstates was some kind of racist forum with tons of neo-nazis plotting the use of WMDs. In this situation the decision came that all swastikas had to go. I personally think this was an okay decision. All those nazi flags caused a lot of tensions. Many outsiders confused actual rp with real believes and many other roll players were simply offended. An other good thing is that people now have to think more about their flags. How make it look “evil” or “fascist” without going for the cheapest possible solution. As you can see when you browse through nationstates they came up with some nice ideas.

Yea, I see your point.

[Dogs of War]

Additionally the use of swastikas totally went out of proportion. Because you don't only use it if you are pro-nazi but also if you are against some other nation. I remember loads of Israeli or Palestinian flags with swastikas added to them. With other nations as well, but these became very common. In most European nations it is a crime to display a swastika. This side is especially targeting young persons. With that combination many European nations would have to ban the use of nationstates altogether if they would get too many complains from parents.

Why are nazi themed nations not banned absolutely? Why should they? Using outright offensive names (English is such a great language, what is my nation's name then? Defensive?) for your nation, like racist, or sexist remarks instead of names or for your currency or national animal is forbidden and will lead to a reaction once reported. If you want to rp a fascist nation, why not name it like that? You even have genocidal options in some issues. I think for outsiders this is a lot more acceptable and easier to understand that this is (in some cases) a role. It is also not as offensive to have a fascist state for those who are offended by that but as it would be to have the historic Nazi state. It is more like playing the Axis in other onlinegames.