When Is Abortion No Longer Acceptable?

[Timothia]

THIS IS NOT THE PLACE OT DEBATE WHETHER ABORTION IS ACCEPTABLE IN THE FIRST PLACE!

There are plenty of other threads where you can discuss that, this one is to debate when abortion is no longer acceptable after conception. Is it the second trimester? Third trimester? First heartbeat? Birth? Is it morally or socially acceptable to have an abortion in the last two months of pregnancy?

My personal opinion is that, once the foetus has recognizable human characteristics (feet, body, arms, fingers, toes, head, etc.) and it's vital organs are functioning, it's no longer OK to abort it. I'm open to have my opinion changed, however: what's the verdict, people of NS?

[Vicswampia]

I personally believe that once the foetus has brain activity, it is morally wrong to abort it. Still, I'm not against it.

[Ifreann]

When the pregnant person doesn't want it, or the doctors cannot safely perform it.

[Starkiller101]

The choice is utmatiley up to the woman

[Ayreonia]

I don't think you should abort people if they are already born.

[Starkiller101]

I don't think you should abort people if they are already born.

that is murder but a unborn fetus isn't

[Timothia]

I don't think you should abort people if they are already born.

How about two weeks before the due date? Or two days? Is that OK?

[Divair]

Whenever the woman decides it's no longer acceptable.

[Ayreonia]

I don't think you should abort people if they are already born.

How about two weeks before the due date? Or two days? Is that OK?

I don't know. I oppose abortions myself. I'll also fight tooth and nail to ensure that everyone who wants an abortion has a right to it.

[L Ron Cupboard]

I don't know; I am not a medical expert. Happy for people with the appropriate scientific expertise to make that decision.

[Germany in Pajamas]

I don't think you should abort people if they are already born.

How about two weeks before the due date? Or two days? Is that OK?

Can the baby be delivered safely? Will it cause physical or emotional harm to the mother if the child is delivered? Will it cause physical or emotional harm if the child is aborted?

And please, don't pretend like a woman who changes her mind 2 days before the due date is a real person unless you have proof of this happening with some regularity. A woman who has willingly carried a child up until that time, isn't going to go "Eh, decided not to."

The other question of course would be if an abortion would even be safe at that point in time. Obviously an abortion shouldn't be performed if there's an unacceptable risk to the mother.

[Sdaeriji]

Once the fetus would be able to survive independently, then it would be preferable if abortions were no longer done.

Of course, the amount of women who have ever had voluntary abortions after that long is almost certainly zero, so it's rather moot.

[Dyakovo]

THIS IS NOT THE PLACE OT DEBATE WHETHER ABORTION IS ACCEPTABLE IN THE FIRST PLACE!

There are plenty of other threads where you can discuss that, this one is to debate when abortion is no longer acceptable after conception. Is it the second trimester? Third trimester? First heartbeat? Birth? Is it morally or socially acceptable to have an abortion in the last two months of pregnancy?

My personal opinion is that, once the foetus has recognizable human characteristics (feet, body, arms, fingers, toes, head, etc.) and it's vital organs are functioning, it's no longer OK to abort it. I'm open to have my opinion changed, however: what's the verdict, people of NS?

After birth. Until then it is fine.

[Dyakovo]

I don't think you should abort people if they are already born.

How about two weeks before the due date? Or two days? Is that OK?

Yes to both.

[Condunum]

THIS IS NOT THE PLACE OT DEBATE WHETHER ABORTION IS ACCEPTABLE IN THE FIRST PLACE!

You cannot possibly try to separate that from this... because that's the core of the discussion, from most angles.

[Condunum]

Whenever the woman decides it's no longer acceptable.

This.

[Condunum]

How about two weeks before the due date? Or two days? Is that OK?

Can the baby be delivered safely? Will it cause physical or emotional harm to the mother if the child is delivered? Will it cause physical or emotional harm if the child is aborted?

And please, don't pretend like a woman who changes her mind 2 days before the due date is a real person unless you have proof of this happening with some regularity. A woman who has willingly carried a child up until that time, isn't going to go "Eh, decided not to."

The other question of course would be if an abortion would even be safe at that point in time. Obviously an abortion shouldn't be performed if there's an unacceptable risk to the mother.

And I'm pretty sure most women who want to opt out that late can have C sections. Especially now that the scar it leaves is reduced greatly. I think.

[The Tundra]

i am not a doctor, therefore, i don't have the knowledge to give a meaningful answer this question.

[Ifreann]

I don't think you should abort people if they are already born.

You don't abort people at all. You abort a pregnancy. Obviously if there has been a birth, the pregnancy is over.

[Ayreonia]

I don't think you should abort people if they are already born.

You don't abort people at all. You abort a pregnancy. Obviously if there has been a birth, the pregnancy is over.

I was joking.

[Ifreann]

You don't abort people at all. You abort a pregnancy. Obviously if there has been a birth, the pregnancy is over.

I was joking.

None the less, too many people think that "abortion" means "kill that thing inside the woman", which isn't necessarily true.

[Hathradic States]

When the fetus becomes viable outside of the womb.

[Ayreonia]

I was joking.

None the less, too many people think that "abortion" means "kill that thing inside the woman", which isn't necessarily true.

Well, what is not alive cannot be killed.

[Condunum]

None the less, too many people think that "abortion" means "kill that thing inside the woman", which isn't necessarily true.

Well, what is not alive cannot be killed.

Well, it is alive. Incubated and dependent, but alive. It's just that the person carrying it has rights.

[Condunum]

I wonder, do pro-lifers who think the fetus is a human think that a cell going through mitosis is two cells the moment the cycle starts? Because that would explain a lot.