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Sadland To Ban Public Use of Internet [NOW WAR/MT/OPEN]

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Your Response?

We do that, too. Good idea.
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6%
Yay, we will too!
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3%
Maybe just set up some firewalls?
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11%
Not our problem.
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20%
The internet must be free!
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38%
BURN SADLAND TO THE GROUND!!!
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23%
 
Total votes : 154

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Sadland
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Sadland To Ban Public Use of Internet [NOW WAR/MT/OPEN]

Postby Sadland » Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:30 pm

OOC: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=204643

By decree of the great Warlord Tenel Nenel, all non-government use of the internet will be banned. The internet is seen by the Warlord as "a horrid example of the dangers of free speech" and "an abomination that only the government can handle correctly".

Public access to the internet will be cut off by tomorrow. Combined with the requirement for a license to own a computer, some feared rebellion. They were soon shut up by the secret police. News will now be broadcast on government television channels and newspapers.

We advise other nations to do the same.

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Glaswegistan
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Postby Glaswegistan » Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:39 pm

Naturally, all Sadlandians wishing to move to a free state will be welcomed by the Party, Sadland will be considered as a possible candidate for liberation and annexation in the meantime.
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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:42 pm

While we understand the concerns of your Warlord, we must note that allowing the use of the Internet can also be beneficial to the government. It's like picking up loose change to catch rebels who get onto it and blab their seditious views. Seriously, some will put the evidence on open forums! Then all you have to do is track their IP and you've got 'em nailed.

We suggest you just quietly censor external sites that promote nasty ideals like democracy. Done right, your people won't even know that such things exist. This might even motivate dissidents to put up their own sites - which makes them even easier to catch than if they posted on other people's forums! For a bonus, after you catch one, replace his site's homepage with videos of his own execution. That will definitely show readers that you have a strong policy against dissent.

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Zanazbar
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Postby Zanazbar » Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:46 pm

Our Government completely agrees with this decision. We had our Internet removed quite the long time ago, since then all of those pig conspiracy theorists have shut their mouth. The internet is only used for people to blab about how bad Zanazbar is, but with no internet, they have nothing to say. Of course, anyone protesting in public is shot on sight, without warning. That's how you teach a lesson.

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Maltropia
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Postby Maltropia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:47 pm

The Royal Kingdom of Maltropia is appalled at Sadland's flagrant attacks on free speech, and vehemently condemns this repulsive ban. All Sadland...ians? wishing for it will be granted asylum in the Royal Kingdom.
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Postby Sadland » Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:56 pm

OOC: I got a lot of people to respond to.

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TO:  Glaswegistan
FROM: Sadland

Sorry, emigration is illegal too. Makes rebels much easier to catch, since they can't just run across the border. Unless they want to get shot several times by border patrol, that is.


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TO: The Decepticons
FROM: Sadland

Hm, good advice, good advice indeed. Perhaps we can allow government websites. I extend my hand in friendship.


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TO: Zanazbar
FROM: Sadland

You, too, have seen the dangers of free speech. I extend my hand in friendship.


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TO: Maltropia
FROM: Sadland

Asylum? Why would we give you our rebels?
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Glaswegistan
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Postby Glaswegistan » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:01 pm

The Party did not state whether or not the Sadland government had a direct decision over whether or not citizens in contact with the Party with a desire to move to Glaswegistan would be capable of doing so.
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Maltropia
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Postby Maltropia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:01 pm

[OOC: Ugh, I now regret not using my communiqué template. Just assume this is a reply with more extraneously formal wording to it.]


In general, it's assumed that the refugees are not actually allowed out by your government in the first place. We sincerely recommend you read up on a definition for asylum, and preferably not the mental hospital kind.

We will go so far in this endeavour as to assign vessels to international waters near Sadland [...and here I generalise and assume all countries have vast coastlines...] to protect any asylum-seekers. [...who, apparently, are able to swim vast distances to reach vicious-looking warships which may or may not be genuinely friendly.]


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Zanazbar
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Postby Zanazbar » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:09 pm

Any refugees seen in or around our waters will be killed on sight. No man or woman should run from their country, that is treason and abandonment. I suggest other nations do the same.

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Glaswegistan
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Postby Glaswegistan » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:14 pm

Zanazbar wrote:Any refugees seen in or around our waters will be killed on sight. No man or woman should run from their country, that is treason and abandonment. I suggest other nations do the same.


A country that oppresses its own people in an unconstitutional manner has no right to have people to call its citizens. A nation truly worthy of its citizens will have no reason for its citizens to leave, and needs no propaganda to attract immigrants; it need only point to its successes as proof of its righteousness.

To this end; Glaswegistan will utilize full orbital overwatch in ensuring the safety of refugees in this flashpoint.
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Bodobol
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Postby Bodobol » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:22 pm

Bodobol hereby states that any and all Sadlandian citizens will be allowed in our grand, free country. Freedom of speech is a right of all people, and we condemn your government.
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Baiynistan
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Postby Baiynistan » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:25 pm

The incumbent Free Labour Party wishes to express its solidarity with the people of Sadland and hopes to see Sadlandian workers follow in the footsteps of Baiynish workers in overthrowing the fascist elite which seeks to oppress them. May the people earn the freedom they deserve.

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Zanazbar
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Postby Zanazbar » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:31 pm

Glaswegistan wrote:
Zanazbar wrote:Any refugees seen in or around our waters will be killed on sight. No man or woman should run from their country, that is treason and abandonment. I suggest other nations do the same.


A country that oppresses its own people in an unconstitutional manner has no right to have people to call its citizens. A nation truly worthy of its citizens will have no reason for its citizens to leave, and needs no propaganda to attract immigrants; it need only point to its successes as proof of its righteousness.

To this end; Glaswegistan will utilize full orbital overwatch in ensuring the safety of refugees in this flashpoint.

Judged by a nation's successes? Our nation's success is our military, and that's were our citizens belong. If they don't like it, they die. Either by execution, or in a war. Our law is join the military, or else. We have no needs for education, or healthcare. All they need to learn is how to shoot. And they don't need heathcare, any good citizen will die in war. 79%[combined defense and law and order] of our nations funds go to our military. That's our success.

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Postby Grand Britannia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:45 pm

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Hockenberg
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Postby Hockenberg » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:45 pm

Hockenberg is disturbed by this violation of free speech.
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Postby Glaswegistan » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:45 pm

Zanazbar wrote:Judged by a nation's successes? Our nation's success is our military, and that's were our citizens belong. If they don't like it, they die. Either by execution, or in a war. Our law is join the military, or else. We have no needs for education, or healthcare. All they need to learn is how to shoot. And they don't need heathcare, any good citizen will die in war. 79%[combined defense and law and order] of our nations funds go to our military. That's our success.


The mere presence of millions of soldiers is for naught if they have poor training, armaments, supplies, leadership and support capabilities. A truly successful nation can maintain armed forces with a high degree of technical proficiency, technological prowess, industrial support, effective leadership and reasoning capabilities, logistical efficiency and a coordinated arsenal of combined-arms support techniques, strategies and capabilities, and it can do that without forcing anyone to join the armed forces, in a truly successful nation, be it dictatorial or under the falsehoods of representative democracy, will have many join the military simply because it is for the honor of the fatherland.

Of course, a military is entirely pointless without the industrial complex necessary to support it existing as a primary focus of the nation, and of course, this industry creates jobs; for the people and for those who wish to join the people. The ability continue in the production of war materiel at a rate faster than it can possibly be depleted, to outproduce the enemy on every level, to provide jobs for billions and to continue to expand the technological and industrial bases of the Fatherland without the concerns of capitalists holding us back from the vision our forefathers saw of a glorious future for those who have the strength to claim it; that is our success.

Orbital Overwatch will be maintained.
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Zanazbar
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Postby Zanazbar » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:08 pm

We will keep our original statement that all refugees[babies, men, women, children] are to be killed on sight. Any nation who opposes this, well, we are prepared for anything.

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Postby Karma Pyjamas » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:54 pm

That's very sad.

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Postby Charellia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:55 pm

The Federation of Charellia condemns the actions of the Sadland government as it is a rejection of our nation's core values and socially detrimental. Our foreign affairs department sees these actions as evidence that your leaders power is under threat.

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Postby Cruciland » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:59 pm

If you truly wish to stop freedom of expression from tainting the hearts and minds of your populace, then simply block the sites that cause such evil to take hold. The internet, after all, serves many better purposes than spreading lies, you know... Conclusively, we find your actions to be a little brash.
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Postby Ourdria » Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:15 pm

We agree with your policy. In Ourdria workers are not permitted to own computers.
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Postby Novus Niciae » Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:29 pm

You have our attention, but fortunately we are patient and we can wait for the dictator to die of old age. So long as you do not start killing your own citizens indiscriminately we shall not do anything for the moment.
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Morislavia
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Postby Morislavia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:38 pm

The Morislav Prime Minister condemned the Sadland Internet Ban.

"People will not take kindly to this policy. People are likely to set up illegal channels. People are likely to take to arms, even. We can't do much about what happens over there, but, if that's what the government wants to do, then they should be aware of the consequences. Furthermore, we are repulsed at the Zanazbar government's policy of killing any and all Sandlander refugees. It is absolutely reprehensible that a government would even embrace a policy of murdering men, women, and even children."

The Morislav Bureau of Customs and Immigration announced that it would give asylum to any Sandlanders fleeing to Morislavia.
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Postby Zanazbar » Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:24 pm

Morislavia wrote: Furthermore, we are repulsed at the Zanazbar government's policy of killing any and all Sandlander refugees. It is absolutely reprehensible that a government would even embrace a policy of murdering men, women, and even children."

We will continue our policy until further notice. These refugees are cowards running away from a country they should be fighting for. If Sadland won't do something about it, we are more than happy to.

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Postby Segland » Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:31 pm

Official Diplomatic Communique from
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To: The Great Empire of Sadland
From: Chancellery of the Republic of Segland
Subject: Ban of Internet Usage




We commend you for taking hold of the populace and banning public use of the Internet. It is indeed a dangerous thing, and the government ought to have complete control over it. However, we recommend that you allow use of the Internet, simply censor everything you don't like.

Nevertheless, it is inspiring to see yet another nation that is taking a turn in the right direction, if you will.


Sincerely yours,
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