[PASSED] Quick!Repeal "Habeas Corpus Act"

[Philimbesi]

Unfortunately, there will be a short time in-between when there is no World Assembly resolution protecting the right of habeas corpus, but hopefully that will only be a short time."

A time some of us refer to as dogs and cats living to together... mass hysteria!

[Orleania]

"Nations should not have to adopt this opinion of interfering, power mongers. The thought of being affected by international opinions is unreal!"

[Dagguerro]

I believe that's the issue: Who has true authority on whether or not a nation follows these resolutions? Nations should be sovereign from international opinion. Pass your own legislation, and allow the rest of us to control our government.

Nations follow resolutions. They can't NOT follow resolutions because compliance is mandatory.

If you don't want to be influenced by international opinion then you can merely quit the WA. That gives you total control over your nation again.

[Sanctaria]

If you don't want to be influenced by international opinion then you can merely quit the WA. That gives you total control over your nation again.

And gives me more office space.

[Orleania]

I believe that's the issue: Who has true authority on whether or not a nation follows these resolutions? Nations should be sovereign from international opinion. Pass your own legislation, and allow the rest of us to control our government.

Nations follow resolutions. They can't NOT follow resolutions because compliance is mandatory.

If you don't want to be influenced by international opinion then you can merely quit the WA. That gives you total control over your nation again.

Hold your horses mister, what your saying is a form of a Communistic government. The WA's inspiration comes from an extradimensional organization, the United Nations. The UN had no control over issues in countries whether or not they were members. The UN only was involved in sanctions and interventions, as well as social issues affecting their world.

[Orleania]

If you don't want to be influenced by international opinion then you can merely quit the WA. That gives you total control over your nation again.

And gives me more office space.

Screw you. Your an arrogant bureaucrat, the type I hate. Get your politics in order, and stop feeding off the rest of the international community.

[Frisbeeteria]

[Screw you. Your an arrogant bureaucrat, the type I hate. Get your politics in order, and stop feeding off the rest of the international community.

Orleania, perhaps you should spend a bit more time reading the sticky threads and a little less time arguing before you have any facts. Also, flaming is against site rules.

Please reference the One Stop Rule Shop and the General Assembly Rules before posting again.

Frisbeeteria
NationStates Game Moderator

[Mousebumples]

Hold your horses mister, what your saying is a form of a Communistic government. The WA's inspiration comes from an extradimensional organization, the United Nations. The UN had no control over issues in countries whether or not they were members. The UN only was involved in sanctions and interventions, as well as social issues affecting their world.

Yeeeeeah, I'm afraid that's not how things work around here.

From the Game FAQ:

What's the World Assembly?

The World Assembly is the world's governing body. It's your chance to mold the world to your vision, by voting for resolutions you like and scuttling the rest. However, it's a double-edged sword, because your nation will be affected by any resolutions that pass. (Unfortunately you can't obey the resolutions you like and ignore the rest, like real nations.) In other words, it's a hot-bed of political intrigue and double-dealing. [Source]

[Orleania]

Hold your horses mister, what your saying is a form of a Communistic government. The WA's inspiration comes from an extradimensional organization, the United Nations. The UN had no control over issues in countries whether or not they were members. The UN only was involved in sanctions and interventions, as well as social issues affecting their world.

Yeeeeeah, I'm afraid that's not how things work around here.

From the Game FAQ:

What's the World Assembly?

The World Assembly is the world's governing body. It's your chance to mold the world to your vision, by voting for resolutions you like and scuttling the rest. However, it's a double-edged sword, because your nation will be affected by any resolutions that pass. (Unfortunately you can't obey the resolutions you like and ignore the rest, like real nations.) In other words, it's a hot-bed of political intrigue and double-dealing. [Source]

And we can't change the World Assembly?

[Sanctaria]

Yeeeeeah, I'm afraid that's not how things work around here.

From the Game FAQ:

And we can't change the World Assembly?

Nope.

[Orleania]

And we can't change the World Assembly?

Nope.

And we have to be unhappy with a Communist international government as well?

[Sanctaria]

Nope.

And we have to be unhappy with a Communist international government as well?

You could leave/quit the World Assembly.

[Orleania]

And we have to be unhappy with a Communist international government as well?

You could leave/quit the World Assembly.

I think I understand how things work now. Rise to the top, and spread your influence, correct?

[Sanctaria]

You could leave/quit the World Assembly.

I think I understand how things work now. Rise to the top, and spread your influence, correct?

No, you author a good piece of legislation and submit it to the World Assembly for vote. Quite simple to understand.

[Orleania]

I think I understand how things work now. Rise to the top, and spread your influence, correct?

No, you author a good piece of legislation and submit it to the World Assembly for vote. Quite simple to understand.

With a side of influence peddling. Point is, after all this confusion on my part, I now believe I have a solution to the Habeas Corpus repeal. I propose a resolution.

[Mousebumples]

No, you author a good piece of legislation and submit it to the World Assembly for vote. Quite simple to understand.

With a side of influence peddling. Point is, after all this confusion on my part, I now believe I have a solution to the Habeas Corpus repeal. I propose a resolution.

I look forward to seeing your draft on the forums, Your Excellency.

[Flibbleites]

You can't amend a resolution. Period.

It's not that you can't you idiots won't see reason.

No, it is that resolutions can't be amended. It is a technical limitation of the game's code. For more information read this post.

[Orleania]

With a side of influence peddling. Point is, after all this confusion on my part, I now believe I have a solution to the Habeas Corpus repeal. I propose a resolution.

I look forward to seeing your draft on the forums, Your Excellency.

With you all's expertise I will be needing help with the draft. Would anyone like to join me? Oh, and please don't call me "Your Excellency" please.

[Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories]

No, you author a good piece of legislation and submit it to the World Assembly for vote. Quite simple to understand.

With a side of influence peddling. Point is, after all this confusion on my part, I now believe I have a solution to the Habeas Corpus repeal. I propose a resolution.

An aide to Ambassador Ironhoof approaches the Orleanian diplomat.
The WA isn't a mandatory organization, if you don't wish to be effected by the decisions implemented, resign _{after signing this document promising us your office space.}

[Orleania]

I do not plan on resigning from the WA. I do plan on gathering a group to draft a resolution, to replace the Habeas Corpus resolution.

[Orleania]

Would any WA delegates like to create a think tank with the nation of Orleania?

[Flibbleites]

I do not plan on resigning from the WA. I do plan on gathering a group to draft a resolution, to replace the Habeas Corpus resolution.

And what's wrong with the replacement drafts that are already being worked on, like this one?

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

[Alqania]

Would any WA delegates like to create a think tank with the nation of Orleania?

"I suggest starting a new debate (new thread) with a draft, Mr Ambassador."

[Orleania]

I do not plan on resigning from the WA. I do plan on gathering a group to draft a resolution, to replace the Habeas Corpus resolution.

And what's wrong with the replacement drafts that are already being worked on, like this one?

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

What's wrong is that during times of war, traitors should be detained without question. That draft does not include any section on that issue.

[Orleania]

Would any WA delegates like to create a think tank with the nation of Orleania?

"I suggest starting a new debate (new thread) with a draft, Mr Ambassador."

I agree let's start a new debate (new forum) on the discussion. Will you join us your Majesty?