HAPPY ZOMBIE JESUS DAY

[Heirosoloa]

Our beliefs also help the economy, the economy would suck without Christmas shopping season.

While a reasonable attempt at a joke, this happens to be untrue.
People tend to shop year-round.

Also, there are economies outside of Christendom.

[Andropoland]

You may be right, but that's being a little to harsh. I mean, modern religions (such as Christianity) may be 90% incorrect, but he is right about religion just being a theory. It's OK to be Atheist, but stay open-minded at least.

Again, theories have at least some evidence in their favor.

Of course they do. Religion has some evidence to support it, but (to some, including myself) not enough to be considered true. Most Atheists are just dicks all the time, but I try to stay open-minded. When an old man floats down from heaven to collect his followers, I won't call it an illusion.

[Vaklor]

Our beliefs also help the economy, the economy would suck without Christmas shopping season.

lol, really?

[Condunum]

Our beliefs also help the economy, the economy would suck without Christmas shopping season.

Bullshit. It would work without it, because it wouldn't be constructed with that variable.

[Mavorpen]

A favorite definition of mine concerning faith is:

"Faith is a decision we make and continue to make over time. Faith is an assertion that a particular belief is true, meaningful and worthy of our trust and effort, no matter what. You can change or disprove beliefs but faith is bedrock solid. You can have faith in ideas, in practices, in institutions and organizations, in people and gods, in whatever you choose to bind yourself to. It is the act of binding that is faith."
-Sannion

Denial of reason and logic in favor of plugging your ears and shouting about Jesus is not true faith. It is intellectual weakness.

What? That contradicts everything the quote says.

[Soviet Canuckistan]

Our beliefs also help the economy, the economy would suck without Christmas shopping season.

While a reasonable attempt at a joke, this happens to be untrue.
People tend to shop year-round.

Also, there are economies outside of Christendom.

But Christmas season brings in a lot of money for the economy.

[Harkonna]

You are not helping, seriously. From one atheist to another, do you honestly think that insulting theists will help at all? If not, then why are you doing it?

Because I'm mad. I am aware that it does not, however, justify my actions in insulting said persons, however apt the aggressive name calling was. For the name calling, I apologize. It was most certainly childish of me to do so.

[Renascibilitas]

Our beliefs also help the economy, the economy would suck without Christmas shopping season.

I always thought that Jesus didn't like rich people.

[Huskvarneque]

Yes, it is, time itself started it's existence when the big bang happened. Before the Big Bang, there was nothing, and I mean nothing, no time, no trace of matter, nothing. I know, many would say "How would the big bang happen if there was nothing there to begin with?!!!", and the only answer I got to that is.... Quantum Physics, in Quantum Physics it is possible for secs of matter to disappear and reappear, or basically cease to exist, and randomly pop back into existence. This has been observed in what's known as Quirks, the stuff that makes up the inside of protons, electrons, and neutrons. Since we know this it is possible to assume something could have randomly popped into the empty void of nothingness of our universe, and caused the chain reaction that lead to the big bang, and the creation of our universe.

This is at least my understanding of it all... unless I'm wrong somewhere, then I hope someone can correct me....

I was lurking the astrophysicists/astronomers earlier, and I saw some references to prior universes.
I'd go back and look for the posts, but then I'd miss al the fun we've been having.

Ahh... that.. is interesting... now I think i might lurk them... damn it!! My astrology geek is showing!! Meh, I'm still in agreement with the Multiverse theory, and that's where I get the thought of matter popping in and out, and random universes being created constantly. Then again, I watch "Into the Universe" way to much....

[Renascibilitas]

While a reasonable attempt at a joke, this happens to be untrue.
People tend to shop year-round.

Also, there are economies outside of Christendom.

But Christmas season brings in a lot of money for the economy.

People need Christmas to buy gifts?

[Soviet Canuckistan]

Our beliefs also help the economy, the economy would suck without Christmas shopping season.

I always thought that Jesus didn't like rich people.

true, but people change our beliefs into a commercialized crapshoot

[Hossaim]

Our beliefs also help the economy, the economy would suck without Christmas shopping season.

Anyone else find it sad that american economy relies on peoples delusional beliefs?

[Greater Tezdrian]

A favorite definition of mine concerning faith is:

"Faith is a decision we make and continue to make over time. Faith is an assertion that a particular belief is true, meaningful and worthy of our trust and effort, no matter what. You can change or disprove beliefs but faith is bedrock solid. You can have faith in ideas, in practices, in institutions and organizations, in people and gods, in whatever you choose to bind yourself to. It is the act of binding that is faith."
-Sannion

Denial of reason and logic in favor of plugging your ears and shouting about Jesus is not true faith. It is intellectual weakness.

What? That contradicts everything the quote says.

No, no it doesn't.

[Soviet Canuckistan]

But Christmas season brings in a lot of money for the economy.

People need Christmas to buy gifts?

People tend to buy gifts for occasions such a Christmas.

[Mavorpen]

While a reasonable attempt at a joke, this happens to be untrue.
People tend to shop year-round.

Also, there are economies outside of Christendom.

But Christmas season brings in a lot of money for the economy.

Which is hilarious because if pagans were dominant, gift exchanging would still be around, with or without your beliefs.

[Heirosoloa]

But Christmas season brings in a lot of money for the economy.

Now I'm not quite sure if you're joking.
Again, people shop year-round. Arguably birthdays do infinitely more for the economy.

[Finium]

Our beliefs also help the economy, the economy would suck without Christmas shopping season.

I always thought that Jesus didn't like rich people.

No, only non-Christmas-shopping rich people

[Condunum]

I always thought that Jesus didn't like rich people.

true, but people change our beliefs into a commercialized crapshoot

And you turned others's into a monotheistic crapshoot. Point being?

[Renascibilitas]

I always thought that Jesus didn't like rich people.

true, but people change our beliefs into a commercialized crapshoot

You're the one who just justified Christianity by citing commerce.

I also find it hilarious that the only relevance you can find for your beliefs is that it makes people shop more. Why not just throw everything out and have ''Thou shalt shop''?

[Vaklor]

While a reasonable attempt at a joke, this happens to be untrue.
People tend to shop year-round.

Also, there are economies outside of Christendom.

But Christmas season brings in a lot of money for the economy.

your point is? Well, you probably dont have one, trolls often dont.

[Cu Math]

show me that proof

It's a comparison.

Umm nope he did. Seriously, Its in the Book Of General Ignorance By John LLoyd, along with his next papal bull claiming Jews kept slaves. (Fourth Council Of the Lateran)

[Avenio]

Being harsh and inflammatory does not mean I fail to be open-minded. It does, however, mean I have considerable distaste for those unable to present coherent and sound arguments, and peddle their ... Tubers ... And stifle intellectual/societal growth.

Then hide that distaste. It does nothing to help your argument, and does nothing to convince people to educate themselves, which is your duty as someone who is an advocate of science, empricism and reason. Not to disparage, ridicule and insult. All I see is a zealot in another guise, quite frankly, and it's disappointing to see someone who evidently knows better stoop to such levels.

[Greater Tezdrian]

I think I love you.

Sig'd.

[Wisconsin7]

Again, theories have at least some evidence in their favor.

Of course they do. Religion has some evidence to support it, but (to some, including myself) not enough to be considered true. Most Atheists are just dicks all the time, but I try to stay open-minded. When an old man floats down from heaven to collect his followers, I won't call it an illusion.

In an earlier post, I asked for evidence, with a few exclusions and explanations of them. Please read aforementioned post.

[Norstal]

... Are you offended by such a joke?
And btw, how did the Jesus child make your particular feast possible? You would've been able to have exactly the same things without Christianity.

That is a bad question, to say the least.

You may not be able to fathom it, but I am a proud Christian, I believe that God almighty exists, and I believe Jesus Christ is his son and the Messiah. Ergo, I believe that since God exists, all the things possible to create such a feast would not exist (just as we would not exist).

Really. Christians get to massacre Native Americans, invade holy lands, and the rest of us can't call Easter Zombie Jesus day.

Really.