by Poelos » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:57 pm
by Galloism » Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:04 pm
by Metanih » Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:06 pm
by New Heathera » Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:10 pm
by The Merchant Republics » Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:13 pm
Metanih wrote:If you deny man-made global warming, then you are simply doing it for idiocy, or greed. There is no other options, as even if it wasn't true, then there is no harm in trying to prevent it.
by New Heathera » Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:55 pm
The Merchant Republics wrote:Metanih wrote:If you deny man-made global warming, then you are simply doing it for idiocy, or greed. There is no other options, as even if it wasn't true, then there is no harm in trying to prevent it.
Several trillions of dollars of harm, if we're looking for complete carbon neutrality. The possible cost of the modern economy.
Not that mind you the consequences of not acting aren't higher, sustainability should be our aim though, not stopping global warming, at this point, even if we could stop it, the actions required of us are far beyond our actual capabilities, with the science available today. Miracles may happen, so long as the science is focused that way, but actual requirements are so drastic very few could realistically implement them.
by The Black Forrest » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:01 pm
by Augarundus » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:07 pm
Galloism wrote:Prior to World War II, there were peer reviewed scientific studies, widely accepted by the scientific community at the time, that black brains were unsuited to the rigors and control required to control an aircraft in combat situations.
Most of us would call that absurd, and rightly so, but it was the common opinion of scientists at the time.
by New Heathera » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:08 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Well?
There are a great many people who make a great deal of money by the way things are. They don't want to possibly loose that. They employ "spin doctors" to stave of possible changes.
Luckily; people in other nations are addressing it. The US will continue it's growing trend of catching up.
by Galloism » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:10 pm
Augarundus wrote:Galloism wrote:Prior to World War II, there were peer reviewed scientific studies, widely accepted by the scientific community at the time, that black brains were unsuited to the rigors and control required to control an aircraft in combat situations.
Most of us would call that absurd, and rightly so, but it was the common opinion of scientists at the time.
Speak for your bloody self.
by West Vandengaarde » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:31 pm
by The Merchant Republics » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:34 pm
New Heathera wrote:The Merchant Republics wrote:
Several trillions of dollars of harm, if we're looking for complete carbon neutrality. The possible cost of the modern economy.
Not that mind you the consequences of not acting aren't higher, sustainability should be our aim though, not stopping global warming, at this point, even if we could stop it, the actions required of us are far beyond our actual capabilities, with the science available today. Miracles may happen, so long as the science is focused that way, but actual requirements are so drastic very few could realistically implement them.
So money (even in the triliions) suddenly becomes more important than the entire population (human and animal) of Earth?
by The Black Forrest » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:36 pm
West Vandengaarde wrote:Scientists aren't unbiased paragons of infallibility.
by New Sapienta » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:38 pm
Augarundus wrote:Galloism wrote:Prior to World War II, there were peer reviewed scientific studies, widely accepted by the scientific community at the time, that black brains were unsuited to the rigors and control required to control an aircraft in combat situations.
Most of us would call that absurd, and rightly so, but it was the common opinion of scientists at the time.
Speak for your bloody self.
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by Aersoldorf » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:44 pm
by The Black Forrest » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:46 pm
Aersoldorf wrote:I highly recommend State of Fear by Michael Crichton. He explains the many problems surrounding the issue and points out problems surrounding the measurements and explains why scientists have a vested interest in producing data that supports global warming even if it isn't really happening
by Trotskylvania » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:47 pm
Aersoldorf wrote:I highly recommend State of Fear by Michael Crichton. He explains the many problems surrounding the issue and points out problems surrounding the measurements and explains why scientists have a vested interest in producing data that supports global warming even if it isn't really happening
Your Friendly Neighborhood Ultra - The Left Wing of the Impossible
Putting the '-sadism' in PosadismKarl Marx, Wage Labour and Capital
Anton Pannekoek, World Revolution and Communist Tactics
Amadeo Bordiga, Dialogue With Stalin
Nikolai Bukharin, The ABC of Communism
Gilles Dauvé, When Insurrections Die"The hell of capitalism is the firm, not the fact that the firm has a boss."- Bordiga
by The Black Forrest » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:52 pm
Trotskylvania wrote:Aersoldorf wrote:I highly recommend State of Fear by Michael Crichton. He explains the many problems surrounding the issue and points out problems surrounding the measurements and explains why scientists have a vested interest in producing data that supports global warming even if it isn't really happening
Crichton is a hack, and global warming is happening. No amount of conspiracy theory bullshit is going to change that.
by Trotskylvania » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:53 pm
Your Friendly Neighborhood Ultra - The Left Wing of the Impossible
Putting the '-sadism' in PosadismKarl Marx, Wage Labour and Capital
Anton Pannekoek, World Revolution and Communist Tactics
Amadeo Bordiga, Dialogue With Stalin
Nikolai Bukharin, The ABC of Communism
Gilles Dauvé, When Insurrections Die"The hell of capitalism is the firm, not the fact that the firm has a boss."- Bordiga
by Nukeobis » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:55 pm
Trotskylvania wrote:Aersoldorf wrote:I highly recommend State of Fear by Michael Crichton. He explains the many problems surrounding the issue and points out problems surrounding the measurements and explains why scientists have a vested interest in producing data that supports global warming even if it isn't really happening
Crichton is a hack, and global warming is happening. No amount of conspiracy theory bullshit is going to change that.
by Bluth Corporation » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:55 pm
by Farnhamia » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:57 pm
Bluth Corporation wrote:Well, he's dead, so...
by The Black Forrest » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:57 pm
by Trotskylvania » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:57 pm
Nukeobis wrote:Trotskylvania wrote:Crichton is a hack, and global warming is happening. No amount of conspiracy theory bullshit is going to change that.
Gore is an oaf. Global warming is not happening/effected by man. No amount of socialist taxing schemes + hypnotizing in schools is going to change that.
Your Friendly Neighborhood Ultra - The Left Wing of the Impossible
Putting the '-sadism' in PosadismKarl Marx, Wage Labour and Capital
Anton Pannekoek, World Revolution and Communist Tactics
Amadeo Bordiga, Dialogue With Stalin
Nikolai Bukharin, The ABC of Communism
Gilles Dauvé, When Insurrections Die"The hell of capitalism is the firm, not the fact that the firm has a boss."- Bordiga
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