Nationstates Olympic Games Discussion Thread

[Chenkorya]

I'm also missing my volleyball men. They are also not in the table.

They BOTH had byes on the first day, and xkoranate does not include teams in the tables if they have yet to play a game.

Oh, okay. Thanks!

[Mesoland]

When's the RP cutoff for day 3?

[Chenkorya]

When's the RP cutoff for day 3?

I guess in something like an hour.

[Liventia]

Unless you're the host or you actually know for sure he's going to do so at that time, you shouldn't be giving out information like that which may not even be accurate.

[Chenkorya]

Unless you're the host or you actually know for sure he's going to do so at that time, you shouldn't be giving out information like that which may not even be accurate.

I guess.

[Commerce Heights]

(OOC: This is presented in the form of a host bid, although no actual bidding process exists. If someone makes an opposing bid, we’ll have to work that out.)

Recognizing the increased interest of late in non-Olympic sports, the Paripana Sporting Council presents its proposal to establish a secondary festival of sport, the World Games. In contrast to its usual approach of constructing extravagant new facilities for an event of this magnitude, the PSC intends to make use of the highly versatile venues in the Olympic capital of Aeropag, the legacy of the Games of the IV Olympiad.

THE CITY
Aeropag is situated on a cluster of islands in the Jativan archipelago, the western reaches of Paripana. Aeropag Island is the only natural island; the others are artificial. The first of these artificial islands was Heracles Island, built for the I Olympic Winter Games, while the largest is Coubertin Island, built for the Games of the IV Olympiad. Through a combination of the islands’ pleasing semitropical climate (the I Olympic Winter Games were held entirely on artifical slopes and refrigerated venues), its position as the central port of Jativa, and its worldwide recognition as the birthplace of the modern Olympic Games, Aeropag has over time become Paripana’s greatest center of commerce, home to the richest of the rich. Major firms pay exorbitant sums for the prestige of an Aeropag office, and doubly so for a spot on the floor plan of the famed Olympic Tower, home of the Olympic Council and UICA.

The Olympic Tower will host a majority of World Games events, as it did in the Games of the IV Olympiad for which it was built. Olympic Tower Stadium, at the pinnacle of the tower, will be transformed from its football configuration used by CF Aéropag back to its multi-sport Olympic setup, and will host the ceremonies and the final matches of many team events. To provide a more compact Games, in addition to the Tristiano Droga Arena and AZAK Arena (which, to avoid a commercial association with the Games, will be known as Stadium 3), the next four top floors of the Tower will be reconfigured as stadia (numbered 4 through 7). The Orange–Green Bowl (known as Aeropag Olympic Stadium for the I Olympic Winter Games, but now considerably reduced in size) on Aeropag Island will be available if necessary, for a total of eight large-field stadia in the city. Eight floors of the Olympic Tower will provide sixteen arenas for the bulk of the events which do not require full-sized stadia. Olympic Park, which adjoins the Olympic Tower and is the only substantial green space in the city, will be pressed into service as a competition venue for field archery, in contrast to the indoor archery range used for target archery at the Olympic Games. The beachfront portion of the park will be used for water skiing and some events in lifesaving, and finally the entire park will be transformed overnight into a temporary golf course to be used during the final days of the Games. The remaining venue is the Aeropag Natatorium, another Olympic legacy on Coubertin Island, which will host the remaining lifesaving events as well as fin swimming.


THE LOGO
The PSC contracted with its usual branding firm, Aeropag-based Golazo Designs, to produce a logo that would represent the I World Games and the host city, and a logo to represent the World Games as a whole.

The I World Games logo has three orange circles, representing Aeropag’s three main islands, separated and connected by a central sea. The three blue circles represent the city’s three festivals of sport—the I Olympic Winter Games, the Games of the IV Olympiad, and the I World Games. The overall design evokes the shape of the Olympic Tower, the centerpiece of the Games. Below this design is the word “Aeropag” rising out of the “I World Games” line as the city’s towers appear to rise out of the sea.

The logo created for the World Games movement is composed of six trapezoids, representing six categories of sport and also referencing the six-pointed star of the Olympic movement. The colors are more vibrant than those of the Olympic Games, to give the feel of a new event. The six elements combine to form the letter “W”.

Golazo Designs attempted to send these logos to a testing lab in New Palmouth prior to publication, but they were unfortunately unavailable to assist.


THE SPORTS
The PSC has selected a total of twenty-one official sports in which 129 events will be contested during the Games. Several of these sports have a history as demonstration sports at the Olympic Games, while for others this will be the first major worldwide competition. In addition to these sports, a number of invitational sports may be included, contingent upon interest from the participating associations and available facilities in Aeropag.

AMERICAN FOOTBALL
Venue: Olympic Tower Stadium and other stadia
Events (2): men’s and women’s
American football is one of the world’s most popular sports not included in the Olympic program. It has the second-largest competition for representative teams after association football’s World Cup, and is being held as a demonstration event for the third time at the Games of the VI Olympiad in Lasft. Though somewhat popular at the collegiate level in New Manhattan and Bedistan, it has never caught on as a professional sport in Paripana. (OOC note: These events will follow IFAF rules, with twelve-minute quarters, and all other rules—including overtime rules—being the same as the NCAA’s.)

ARCHERY (FIELD)
Venue: Olympic Park
Events (6): men’s and women’s barebow, compound, recurve
Though archery has been practiced at the Games of the Olympiad since they were first celebrated in Ashford, Casari, it has been limited to target archery. Paripana’s top archers have long clamored for additional events to win, and the PSC intends to oblige.

AUSTRALIAN FOOTBALL
Venue: Olympic Tower Stadium and other stadia
Events (2): men’s and women’s
Australian football is a traditional sport in Lontorika, and recently saw its first world championship organized by the Lontorikanische Sportbund (a PSC member association), with the final played at Tristiano Droga Arena in the Olympic Tower. Six teams competed for that trophy, and it is hoped that more will come to Aeropag for the World Games.

BASEBALL
Venue: Olympic Tower Stadium and other stadia
Event (1): men’s
Baseball was an Olympic sport prior to its controversial removal prior to the Games of the IV Olympiad in Aeropag. By popular demand, a demonstration event was held in Aeropag, and after being excluded, like many demonstration sports, from the Outineau program, it made its return in that capacity at Lasft. Bedistan once had a professional baseball league, but Paripanan interest in the sport has been dwindling for the last century or so, and is now on the verge of non-existence.

BOULES SPORTS
BOULE LYONNAISE
Venue: Olympic Tower arenas
Events (4): men’s and women’s precision throw, progressive throw
PÉTANQUE
Venue: Olympic Tower arenas
Events (2): men’s and women’s doubles
RAFFA
Venue: Olympic Tower arenas
Events (2): men’s and women’s doubles
Bocce’s popularity in Cafundéu, among other places, has aided its inclusion as a demonstration sport in both Columbia and Lasft, but the sport’s profusion of variants and decentralized governance has hindered widespread adoption. After exasperating consultations with several French, Italian, and Portuguese translators, the PSC eventually decided to hold eight events in three disciplines of the sport.

BOWLING (TEN-PIN)
Venue: Olympic Tower arenas
Events (3): men’s and women’s singles; mixed doubles
Though popular for casual competition in Paripana, ten-pin bowling has yet to catch on as a professional discipline. Though it failed to make it on to the demonstration program in Querzakhi, the PSC hopes to inspire a new generation of sportsmen and women to practice this sport at the highest level.

CHESS BOXING
Venue: Olympic Tower arenas
Events (2): men’s and women’s
Chess boxing was the first recognized Olympic demonstration sport, held at the Games of the II Olympiad in Querzakhi, but has not been seen since it made its encore appearance in Columbia. This sport has a unique appeal, and the PSC believes this will make it a success at the World Games.

FIN SWIMMING
Venue: Aeropag Natatorium
Events (10): men’s and women’s apnœa 50 m; men’s and women’s surface 100 m, 200 m, 400 m, 4×100 m relay
Fin swimming could well be an Olympic discipline if it were brought under the ægis of aquatics, but its chances were ruined when one prominent member of the aquatics federation was quoted as calling the sport “patently ridiculous”. It has found its way into the World Games largely because the management of the Aeropag Natatorium needs to schedule something there in order to keep it from being demolished and replaced by a big shiny skyscraper.

GAELIC FOOTBALL
Venue: Olympic Tower Stadium and other stadia
Events (2): men’s, women’s
Gaelic football was a demonstration sport at the Games of the IV Olympiad and Aeropag, and is again at Lasft. Its relation to Australian football means that some Paripanans are it least vaguely familiar with it, but they mostly think of it as something played by Sortherners with lots of acute accents.

GOLF
Venue: Olympic Park
Event (1): open stroke play
Though golf is a sport commonly associated with the rich, due to space constraints there is not a single golf course in Paripana’s richest city. For the World Games, the Olympic Park will be temporarily transformed, with a small army of earth-moving equipment and a boatload of sod used to execute the meticulous plan to create a championship course in under twelve hours. Since the park will also be used for other sports, only a single four-round golf event can be held.

GYMNASTICS
ACROBATIC
Venue: Olympic Tower arenas
Events (5): men’s and women’s pairs, group; mixed pairs
AEROBIC
Venue: Olympic Tower arenas
Events (5): men’s and women’s individual; mixed pairs; trio; group
RHYTHMIC
Venue: Olympic Tower arenas
Events (8): men’s and women’s ball, hoop, ribbons, rope
TRAMPOLINE
Venue: Olympic Tower arenas
Events (6): men’s and women’s double mini, tumbling, synchronized
Rhythmic and trampoline gymnastics have always been included in the Olympic program, but the former only as an all-around event and the latter in only one of the discipline’s four events. For the World Games, the PSC will not only hold fourteen events in those disciplines, but also add the new disciplines of acrobatic and aerobic gymnastics.

KARATE
Venue: Olympic Tower arenas
Events (13): men’s and women’s kata; men’s kumite 60 kg, 65 kg, 70 kg, 75 kg, 80 kg, over 80 kg, open; women’s kumite 53 kg, 60 kg, over 60 kg, open
Karate is one of the three traditional martial arts practiced in Paripana, along with judo and taekwondo, and is the only one not contested at the Olympic Games. The World Games will provide an adequate substitute.

KORFBALL
Venue: Olympic Tower arenas
Event (1): mixed team
Korfball was a demonstration event at the Games of the IV Olympiad in Aeropag, and will make its return at the World Games. As it is by design a mixed-sex sport, only a single event will be held.

LACROSSE
Venue: Olympic Tower Stadium and other stadia
Events (2): men’s, women’s
Lacrosse has slowly gained popularity around the world and has been included thrice as an Olympic demonstration event, including at Aeropag. Though it has little following in Paripana, the PSC believes the global interest merits its inclusion.

LIFE SAVING
Venue: Aeropag Natatorium (pool events), Olympic Park (beach events)
Events (16): men’s and women’s 50 m manikin carry, 100 m manikin carry with fins, 100 m rescue medley, 200 m obstacle swim, board race, oceanman/woman, surf race, team
As with fin swimming, life saving has been selected primarily to bring people to the Aeropag Natatorium. It might not bring a whole lot of people there, but at least it’ll bring some people.

POWERLIFTING
Venue: Olympic Tower arenas
Events (8): men’s and women’s lightweight, middleweight, heavyweight, super heavyweight
Powerlifting is apparently similar to the existing Olympic sport of weightlifting, but with more power. The PSC likes power. Lots of power. Not that they’re planning to take over the World Games council or anything…

ROLLER SPORTS
ARTISTIC
Venue: Olympic Tower arenas
Events (4): men’s and women’s free skating; pairs; team dance
INLINE HOCKEY
Venue: Olympic Tower arenas
Events (2): men’s, women’s
SPEED SKATING
Venue: Olympic Tower arenas
Events (10): men’s and women’s 300 m, 500 m sprint, 1000 m race, 10000 m points and elimination, 15000 m elimination
Roller sports events by and large mimic the events played on ice at the Olympic Winter Games. However, a petition made by some members of the PSC’s internal bureaucracy to include roller curling was ultimately rejected.

RUGBY UNION (SEVENS)
Venue: Olympic Tower Stadium and other stadia
Events (2): men’s, women’s
Rugby sevens was originally an Olympic medal event at Ashford, but was dropped afterward for reasons unknown. After a hiatus in Querzakhi and Columbia, it made its return as a demonstration event in Aeropag, and has been held ever since. Though playing the full-sided version of the sport would be impractical in a multi-sport festival of any description, it has significant backing and many believe it could return to the Olympic program as soon as the Games of the VIII Olympiad.

SOFTBALL
Venue: Olympic Tower Stadium and other stadia
Event (1): women’s
Like baseball, softball was an Olympic sport up until its removal for the Games of the IV Olympiad in Aeropag. Since that removal, it has been treated as a complement to baseball, with men’s softball and women’s baseball wiped from the world’s consciousness. Also like baseball, it receives far more attention outside of Paripana than inside.

TUG OF WAR
Venue: Olympic Tower arenas
Events (3): men’s 640 kg, 680 kg; women’s 520 kg
Though once proposed as an Olympic demonstration event, no high-level competition has been held in tug of war. It’s not a terribly complicated sport, though, so the PSC assumes a few teams can be assembled for the Games.

WATER SKIING
Venue: Olympic Park
Events (6): men’s and women’s barefoot, tournament, wakeboard
Water skiing came up while the Aeropag Natatorium’s management were brainstorming water sports that they could hold for the sake of keeping their jobs. While it can’t be held in a natatorium, of course, the PSC bureaucrat present at that meeting thought it was a good idea anyway.


THE FORMAT (OOC)
The World Games are scheduled to take place from 2011-10-25 to 2011-11-07 (fourteen days), with the opening ceremony a day before. Entries will be accepted from 2011-10-01 to 2011-10-21. As with any event, this schedule is subject to change.

Entries will follow the typical Olympic format, with a limited number of entries per event and also a maximum number of entries overall (two hundred, excluding any invitational events). For ease of entry, skill values will be whole numbers from 0 to 100, with a maximum permissible average of 50. A maximum standard deviation may also be enforced, with points redistributed in extreme cases of “min-maxing”, but entrants will not be expected to calculate this themselves.

A future version of xkoranate which supports all of these sports will be used to scorinate. A modified RP bonus system will be used, in which the “maxpoints” is the maximum skill + RP value actually existing in the event, rather than the maximum theoretical value. For example, if the bonus were set at 20%, then rather than scaling the skill values down to a 0–80 range and adding an RP bonus of up to 20 points, this system would add the RP bonus of up to 25 points first and then scale down the values if any exceed 100. This will give the RP bonus a greater impact in events where the top athletes are from non-RPing nations, and allows the maximum possible bonus to be set higher without skewing the results when no one has achieved that bonus (as has been an issue with NSFS in the World Cup).

[Mesoland]

I cannot believe I didn't win a single medal, or even qualify for a single thing today! Worst day ever!

[Mytannion]

I cannot believe I didn't win a single medal, or even qualify for a single thing today! Worst day ever!

Dem's the breaks, friend. More constructively, unlucky, but just RPing doesn't ensure victory at the Olympics - there are so any other people RPing and so many other 'athletes' in it, just getting one single medal/qualifying for the finals of an event, is good.

[Cyborg Holland]

I cannot believe I didn't win a single medal, or even qualify for a single thing today! Worst day ever!

Dem's the breaks, friend. More constructively, unlucky, but just RPing doesn't ensure victory at the Olympics - there are so any other people RPing and so many other 'athletes' in it, just getting one single medal/qualifying for the finals of an event, is good.

Oh, I qualified for the men's 4x100m freestyle relay finals, so that's good

[Chenkorya]

I cannot believe I didn't win a single medal, or even qualify for a single thing today! Worst day ever!

Don't be so unsatisfied. I've RP'ed many times and I didn't have a single medal yet, I'm already happy with a fourth place in the woman's cycling.

[Cyborg Holland]

Ummm, A question about Gymnastics, two of my girls Katya Weiss and Terita Erde, have a Q by their names,but we havn't qualified for the team final, so what do they do?

[Vulshain]

Can someone explain to me how one qualifies for the gymnastics? I'm having a hard time understanding why none of my female gymnasts qualified for the artistic event.


Also, I hate this bad luck that's been bothering me! Dang! Oh well, at least some of my swimmers and one of my fencers are doing good. That's a plus (Keeps fingers crossed and begins praying).

[Commerce Heights]

Can someone explain to me how one qualifies for the gymnastics? I'm having a hard time understanding why none of my female gymnasts qualified for the artistic event.

The eight gymnasts with the highest scores (but no more than two from any particular NOC) in each apparatus qualify for the event in that apparatus; the twenty-four gymnasts with the highest overall scores (but no more than two from any particular NOC) qualify for the individual all-around event; the eight teams with the highest scores qualify for the team all-around event.

[Vulshain]

Okay. I get it now.

[Euskirribakondara]

Euskirribakondara is already bidding to host the VII Winter and Summer Olympic Games. And as experience is needed, we ENDORSE the creation of the World Games.

Also, we want to propose the creation of Winter World Games and we want to bid to HOST those games as well. We ENDORSE too, the Commerce Heights bid to host the First Summer World Games.

[Krytenia]

Question for CH: Will the World Games events be made available on a release of xkoranate? If so, when?

[Wadomia]

World Games sound awesome! I'll definitely join that

[The Kytler Peninsulae]

The Kytlerian Olympic Sports Organisation (KOSO) officially endorse the creation of the World Games, and the proposed hosting thereof in Aeropag.

[Commerce Heights]

Question for CH: Will the World Games events be made available on a release of xkoranate? If so, when?

Yes, and that’ll probably be a within a week or two of the end of the World Games, once I’ve fixed all the bugs I’ll probably create. I’d like to include some of the other RL World Games sports as well, but that might have to wait until later.

[Mesoland]

Euskirribakondara is already bidding to host the VII Winter and Summer Olympic Games. And as experience is needed, we ENDORSE the creation of the World Games.

Also, we want to propose the creation of Winter World Games and we want to bid to HOST those games as well. We ENDORSE too, the Commerce Heights bid to host the First Summer World Games.

Dude, hosting the games is a big responsibility. With your limited experience (not that I can say much), you might want to compete in 1 or 2 more Olympics before hosting one! But if you're really serious about hosting the VII games, best of luck!

[Liventia]

Euskirribakondara is already bidding to host the VII Winter and Summer Olympic Games. And as experience is needed, we ENDORSE the creation of the World Games.

Also, we want to propose the creation of Winter World Games and we want to bid to HOST those games as well. We ENDORSE too, the Commerce Heights bid to host the First Summer World Games.

Riiight. Someone with 28 posts and absolutely zero history of being able to host anything on NS (because you haven't actually hosted anything!) wants to host the Olympics. Better redirect that energy for now.

[Chenkorya]

Euskirribakondara is already bidding to host the VII Winter and Summer Olympic Games. And as experience is needed, we ENDORSE the creation of the World Games.

Also, we want to propose the creation of Winter World Games and we want to bid to HOST those games as well. We ENDORSE too, the Commerce Heights bid to host the First Summer World Games.

A few things...

1. You have never hosted something and it's not a really good idea to start with the Olympics...
2. What sports do you want to play at the Winter World Games? Maybe that's a good thing to start with...

I really have my doubts about you hosting the Olympics. My extremely doubts.

[Cyborg Holland]

I'm probably being stupid and not reading it properly, but what are the world games, an how do they differ from the OG?

[Liventia]

I'm probably being stupid and not reading it properly, but what are the world games, an how do they differ from the OG?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Games

[Bears Armed]

Bears Armed Olympic Committee strrongly supports the introduction of the 'World Games'
(whilst grumbling slightly over the fact that the current bid lists three separate version of Boules but not Lawn Bowls...).