every asexual bacterium, every asexual plant, every hermaphroditic species (earthworms, off the top of my head) etc.
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by DaWoad » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:19 am
by Euronion » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:19 am
Veloxia wrote:If you don't want to risk paying child support, keep it in your pants.
Thomas Paine wrote:"to argue with someone who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead"
by The Parkus Empire » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:19 am
Euronion wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:No. If you're building a house, and I help pour the concrete, I don't get the right to tell you whether or not you can stop doing the rest of the work of building the house.
If you are married and get a divorce, anything that you had or made during the marriage, including money is up for debate, both parties get a say. If you are in a union and you share bank accounts, the money belongs to both you and your partner not solely to one person
by The Parkus Empire » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:20 am
Hathradic States wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:Yes. You get a night of fun and she gets 9 months of issues, the delivery and all the other aspects afterwards.
The process is simple really.
You don't like this idea; get yourself cut.
And then I get stuck with eighteen years of "pay this bill" and "do this for me".
by The Black Forrest » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:21 am
Veloxia wrote:If you don't want to risk paying child support, keep it in your pants.
by DaWoad » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:21 am
Euronion wrote:Veloxia wrote:If you don't want to risk paying child support, keep it in your pants.
so again it is up to the males to control our reproduction, in your opinion then, the man should stay a virgin, while the woman goes around humping any pole that she finds? what about it being up to the woman, it is her body as so many other people have pointed out, if she doesn't want a baby, then she shouldn't have had sex
by Shadow25 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:21 am
Euronion wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:No. If you're building a house, and I help pour the concrete, I don't get the right to tell you whether or not you can stop doing the rest of the work of building the house.
If you are married and get a divorce, anything that you had or made during the marriage, including money is up for debate, both parties get a say. If you are in a union and you share bank accounts, the money belongs to both you and your partner not solely to one person
by Umbra Ac Silentium » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:21 am
Euronion wrote:Veloxia wrote:If you don't want to risk paying child support, keep it in your pants.
so again it is up to the males to control our reproduction, in your opinion then, the man should stay a virgin, while the woman goes around humping any pole that she finds? what about it being up to the woman, it is her body as so many other people have pointed out, if she doesn't want a baby, then she shouldn't have had sex
The Holy Therns wrote:Your thought pattern is so bizarre I can't even be offended anymore.
by DaWoad » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:21 am
by Peoples New Norway » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:22 am
by Euronion » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:22 am
Sorratsin wrote:Hathradic States wrote:We are needed, point there is obvious.
However, does carrying the baby for nine months give the woman any more right to it that the man? After all, it is the product of both persons.
They put more effort into it, sacrifice more time for it, and take more responsibility for it, not to mention the trauma of pregnancy. By most definitions of ownership, the female "owns" the pregnancy.
Thomas Paine wrote:"to argue with someone who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead"
by Hathradic States » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:22 am
DaWoad wrote:because it's her body. You do not get to for a person to give you a kidney, you do not get to force a woman to bear your child, it's that simple. If you don't want to have a kid, and you're a male, either don't have sex, get a vasectomy or come up with a legal agreement with your SO.
The Black Forrest wrote:Sucks doesn't it. But hey, that's what men do.
You don't want that. A simple procedure will eliminate it......
by The Parkus Empire » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:22 am
Peoples New Norway wrote:In the end it is always the woman's choice. Anyone who believes otherwise is either a rapist or a person who hangs on to ancient morals.
by Hathradic States » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:24 am
by Apollonesia » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:24 am
by The Parkus Empire » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:24 am
Hathradic States wrote:Now, for the converse, what if I want the child, want to be a father, and the woman decides to kill it because she doesn't want to be a mother? Where is the justice in that?
by The Black Forrest » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:25 am
Euronion wrote:Sorratsin wrote:
They put more effort into it, sacrifice more time for it, and take more responsibility for it, not to mention the trauma of pregnancy. By most definitions of ownership, the female "owns" the pregnancy.
so your father never loved you, he ever cared for you as a child, never gave a damn about you? if the answer to that is no, then your father did care about you, let me speak from experience, when you look into that little babies face, you immediatley love it, you know that you would give your life up to defend it, I would do it for my children, and if another man feels that way about his child what gives women the right to take that child and stab a dagger through its heart?
by Alien Space Bats » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:25 am
Hathradic States wrote:However, does carrying the baby for nine months give the woman any more right to it that the man? After all, it is the product of both persons.
by The Kings Council » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:25 am
Shadow25 wrote:no one tells you what to do with your reproductive organs or any part of your body when you find some weird law that forces men to impregnate a woman by law then go on and demand that women don't have any abortions, other than that all you do is ejaculating which a very simple thing that you don't have to suffer from it for months
by Euronion » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:25 am
DaWoad wrote:Euronion wrote:
so again it is up to the males to control our reproduction, in your opinion then, the man should stay a virgin, while the woman goes around humping any pole that she finds? what about it being up to the woman, it is her body as so many other people have pointed out, if she doesn't want a baby, then she shouldn't have had sex
it's her body to do with as she wills. It's his body to do with as he wills. The fetus is a part of her body, it's not a part of his.
Thomas Paine wrote:"to argue with someone who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead"
by The Parkus Empire » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:25 am
by Hathradic States » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:26 am
The Parkus Empire wrote:Hathradic States wrote:Now, for the converse, what if I want the child, want to be a father, and the woman decides to kill it because she doesn't want to be a mother? Where is the justice in that?
Plenty, since it is her body being used. Now after she gives birth, and she wants to give it up for adoption, you're well within your rights to say, "No, I don't think so," and take the child into your legal custody while she sends you a check every month to help take care of her/him.
by Shadow25 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:27 am
The Kings Council wrote:Shadow25 wrote:no one tells you what to do with your reproductive organs or any part of your body when you find some weird law that forces men to impregnate a woman by law then go on and demand that women don't have any abortions, other than that all you do is ejaculating which a very simple thing that you don't have to suffer from it for months
have you gotten anyone pregnant before? please tell me how easy it was for me to go through what i went through.
by DaWoad » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:27 am
Euronion wrote:DaWoad wrote:it's her body to do with as she wills. It's his body to do with as he wills. The fetus is a part of her body, it's not a part of his.
yes you are right, so lets give every woman the right to stab herself in the stomach every time she doesn't want to have a child, because it doesn't matter what the male thinks does it, it doesn't matter what he cares about, it doesn't matter if he loves the child, go ahead and kill it because as we know murder is the way to solve everything
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