Embassies

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

Personally I don't understand why the clunky embassy construction box can't be initially closed.. and all of the existing embassies can't be initially open... ? :/ The current system seems to have its priorities reversed.

At the least there's one thing we can agree about. Although I don't really mind placing excess embassies behind spoilers, if we can randomize the visible ones or at least expand the visible list to ten so regions who don't want or need 300 embassies don't have to pick and choose who their more important friends are.

[Sanctaria]

What's the amount of Embassies a region have got to do with the World Assembly?

In its own way, establishing an embassy amounts to an endorsement of another region, so why shouldn't the most endorsed region receive some kind of special recognition?

I think regions have enough power within the World Assembly as it is.

[Unibot II]

Personally I don't understand why the clunky embassy construction box can't be initially closed.. and all of the existing embassies can't be initially open... ? :/ The current system seems to have its priorities reversed.

At the least there's one thing we can agree about. Although I don't really mind placing excess embassies behind spoilers, if we can randomize the visible ones or at least expand the visible list to ten so regions who don't want or need 300 embassies don't have to pick and choose who their more important friends are.

I think Dharma's got a fair amount of embassies.. and it looks fine without a spoiler.. it's the entire embassy construction thingy that'd I like to collapse. But yeah, I suggested randomization, a while back. :/

[[violet]]

after a region ceases to exist, an embassy request it made priorly can no longer be rejected by the receiving (still existing) region.

Fixed issue where embassy invitations were not being automatically pruned from other regions when it ceased to exist.

If you'd like me to tidy up regions that have outstanding invitations from dead regions, point me at 'em. Although they will automatically expire after 7 days.

[[violet]]

You can still request embassies even after one has already been approved.

Fixed, in the sense that you can't do this any more. As above with regard to cleaning up current invitations.

[Mediterreania]

Are delegates allowed to post on other regions' RMBs if they have embassies?

[[violet]]

Personally I don't understand why the clunky embassy construction box can't be initially closed.. and all of the existing embassies can't be initially open... ? :/ The current system seems to have its priorities reversed.

Stop describing all my stuff as clunky, or I'll clunk YOU!

The system prioritizes change. It's expected that after the initial rush, embassies will more or less stabilize, and people won't want to constantly be alerted to the full list of embassies, but rather only if something's changing.

[[violet]]

Although I don't really mind placing excess embassies behind spoilers, if we can randomize the visible ones or at least expand the visible list to ten so regions who don't want or need 300 embassies don't have to pick and choose who their more important friends are.

With great power comes great responsibility.

[[violet]]

Are delegates allowed to post on other regions' RMBs if they have embassies?

No, but this was suggested earlier and it's an interesting idea.

[Unibot II]

Personally I don't understand why the clunky embassy construction box can't be initially closed.. and all of the existing embassies can't be initially open... ? :/ The current system seems to have its priorities reversed.

Stop describing all my stuff as clunky, or I'll clunk YOU!

The system prioritizes change. It's expected that after the initial rush, embassies will more or less stabilize, and people won't want to constantly be alerted to the full list of embassies, but rather only if something's changing.

Fair enough. Please don't clunk me.

[Mediterreania]

Are delegates allowed to post on other regions' RMBs if they have embassies?

No, but this was suggested earlier and it's an interesting idea.

I lost track ofthe conversation awhile back, and was wondering if that suggestion had been implemented. Would the coding be very complex?

[[violet]]

Not really sure. It's not something I'll be doing in a hurry, though. Usually when any significant new feature is introduced, there are lots of ideas for additional things to do with it, but it's good to wait and see how it's used in practice for a while first.

[West Targis]

I like the idea of being able to post in RMBs of regions with embassies, but I think it should be able to be turned off with regional controls. That way regions that don't want to interact, or perhaps have tons of embassies, don't have to...

[Wopruthien]

If you do decide to do that, you could always make it so that only the top 5 embassies will be able to post on the RMB. Could get confusing with regions like Dharma otherwise

[Unibot II]

If you do decide to do that, you could always make it so that only the top 5 embassies will be able to post on the RMB. Could get confusing with regions like Dharma otherwise

We'd love it, actually.

[New South Hell]

I like the idea of being able to post in RMBs of regions with embassies, but I think it should be able to be turned off with regional controls. That way regions that don't want to interact, or perhaps have tons of embassies, don't have to...

I very much agree. I want to be able to open embassies with regions that may not be as serious, or as ridiculous, as mine. I want to have a distinct regional culture from those of my friends, and that means restricting access to my RMB to my own residents.

I note that if a resident breaks the rules and conventions I've set up for my region I can eject them and ban them, but if a resident of a friendly region does so, I have no recourse other than attempt to persuade my buddy to discipline the miscreant, or break off diplomatic relations. Since the other region may have a much different idea of what's proper, I don't necessarily expect asking them to impose stricter rules on themselves than comes naturally to have much effect.

There are regions whose friendship I want to acknowledge. That does NOT necessarily mean I want to merge with them, or give them free rein over my territory.

[North Wiedna]

As it stands, when the founder/delegate of a region either proposes or accepts an embassy request, you can ban them via the Administration panel, because they're in the Regional Happenings. Is there a way this can be turned off?

[Mayor For Life]

I want to be able to open embassies with regions that may not be as serious, or as ridiculous, as mine. I want to have a distinct regional culture from those of my friends, and that means restricting access to my RMB to my own residents.

I note that if a resident breaks the rules and conventions I've set up for my region I can eject them and ban them, but if a resident of a friendly region does so, I have no recourse other than attempt to persuade my buddy to discipline the miscreant, or break off diplomatic relations. Since the other region may have a much different idea of what's proper, I don't necessarily expect asking them to impose stricter rules on themselves than comes naturally to have much effect.

There are regions whose friendship I want to acknowledge. That does NOT necessarily mean I want to merge with them, or give them free rein over my territory.

NSH's region is not ridiculous. It is the source of mirth of such volume that it might achieve status some day as a novel. Not the cool kind of social import novel Max writes, just the kind of dialogue mayhem that some readers crave when they realize that Watchmen is past tense and Jhonen Vasquez isn't as prolific as originally hoped.

But I digress.

Please don't be cranky with me for a suggestion, but embassies are essential to my community. The new code was fine to spam up my region page and RH with requests and building time, but now that I have them, it's "Yggdrasil, Texas, The Bad Place, Holy Land, The Skeleton Army, and 12 others."

No one wants to be sloppy seconds. Except maybe Lindsay [no I can't say that]. Nevertheless, please allow the limited embassy list (current flavor), a full list, or no list in regional controls. Now that you've scrunched my WFE font to only people under 40 can read it without glasses size (tip: you have a number of players over 40 and I know more than one of them), please allow us to put those "12 others" out there. Of course I agree there might need to be a max number,

We all submit to the max number. I just suggest it's greater than 5 and less than 100.

[Spooky Orion Bowshock]

Fact check: The North Pacific is the first region to withdraw embassies.

[Frattastan]

Fact check: The North Pacific is the first region to withdraw embassies.

Incorrect. Southern Africa is the first one.

[Ballotonia]

It has come to my attention that the quickest way to get rid of an embassy request from another region is to not respond to it. Rejecting it means it's left in the list for another 7 days.

Could we get a Discard button? This would also allow another request (in case it was rejected in error... there's no 'are you sure' or 'undo').

Ballotonia

[Glen-Rhodes]

Could we get a Discard button? This would also allow another request (in case it was rejected in error... there's no 'are you sure' or 'undo').

Well, 'rejection' sends just as much of a message as 'acceptance,' which I think is the point here. Why not just adjust the amount of time a rejection stays on the list?

[Ballotonia]

Could we get a Discard button? This would also allow another request (in case it was rejected in error... there's no 'are you sure' or 'undo').

Well, 'rejection' sends just as much of a message as 'acceptance,' which I think is the point here. Why not just adjust the amount of time a rejection stays on the list?

Like, set that to zero? That would work too.

Ballotonia

[[violet]]

It has come to my attention that the quickest way to get rid of an embassy request from another region is to not respond to it. Rejecting it means it's left in the list for another 7 days.

Really? That would be a bug. Can you point me at an example?

[Ballotonia]

It has come to my attention that the quickest way to get rid of an embassy request from another region is to not respond to it. Rejecting it means it's left in the list for another 7 days.

Really? That would be a bug. Can you point me at an example?

And from your comment it just dawns on me I shouldn't be adding up the 'sent' and 'rejected' times. I thought "Sent 5 days ago, Rejected 3 days 14 hours ago" meant one timer stopped and the next one started. They both continue to count up. My bad.

Still, I'd like to be able to clear the item. As sending region one has the ability to withdraw (as long as no decision was made by the receiving party. Doing that locks it in the list so neither side can get rid of the listing). As receiving region, there's no discard (or 'dismiss', like for issues).

Ballotonia