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Postby Noraika » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:12 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:That's great! I hope he has some success with your family.

It actually turns out he knows the superiors of ANOTHER Jesuit priest that is a close relative of my mother, and who she respects quite a bit, so we're trying to get him on board with everything as well, to apply even more pressure on my parents to let me transition, and not try and stop me from it.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:35 pm

Noraika wrote:So I officially love the Jesuits in my area.

The priest I went to had known me before I started to transition, so of course I was terrified to talk to him, but he was completely supportive of me, and is working with me to ensure that, even if my parents completely reject me, I have options open to me to be able to ensure I can continue my transition. He even was like "yeah, you seem so much happier even just looking at you, compared with last year" when I told him that transitioning was a positive thing for me, and working to maximize the chances my parents will be accepting.

Here's hoping for the next few months! :)

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Postby Grenartia » Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:47 pm

Noraika wrote:So I officially love the Jesuits in my area.

The priest I went to had known me before I started to transition, so of course I was terrified to talk to him, but he was completely supportive of me, and is working with me to ensure that, even if my parents completely reject me, I have options open to me to be able to ensure I can continue my transition. He even was like "yeah, you seem so much happier even just looking at you, compared with last year" when I told him that transitioning was a positive thing for me, and working to maximize the chances my parents will be accepting.

Here's hoping for the next few months! :)


That's awesome!

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Postby Socialist Tera » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:13 am

I got to see a doctor for my referral today to see a psychiatrist, it was frustrating, I was asked questions like "Do you want kids? You do know you won't be able to have kids if you go through with it, right."
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Postby Minzerland II » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:37 am

Socialist Tera wrote:I got to see a doctor for my referral today to see a psychiatrist, it was frustrating, I was asked questions like "Do you want kids? You do know you won't be able to have kids if you go through with it, right."

Well, that is typically the questions they ask when going through a procedure of that magnitude.
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Postby Hirota » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:55 am

Socialist Tera wrote:I got to see a doctor for my referral today to see a psychiatrist, it was frustrating, I was asked questions like "Do you want kids? You do know you won't be able to have kids if you go through with it, right."
It's to cover their own liability. If they don't ask, if they don't jump through all these hoops some dumb or very twisted person is going to use that as an excuse to sue the shit out of them.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:05 am

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Socialist Tera wrote:I got to see a doctor for my referral today to see a psychiatrist, it was frustrating, I was asked questions like "Do you want kids? You do know you won't be able to have kids if you go through with it, right."
It's to cover their own liability. If they don't ask, if they don't jump through all these hoops some dumb or very twisted person is going to use that as an excuse to sue the shit out of them.

Ah makes sense. I thought she thought I was an idiot or something.
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Postby Philjia » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:28 am

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Hirota wrote:It's to cover their own liability. If they don't ask, if they don't jump through all these hoops some dumb or very twisted person is going to use that as an excuse to sue the shit out of them.

Ah makes sense. I thought she thought I was an idiot or something.


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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:50 am

Hirota wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:I got to see a doctor for my referral today to see a psychiatrist, it was frustrating, I was asked questions like "Do you want kids? You do know you won't be able to have kids if you go through with it, right."
It's to cover their own liability. If they don't ask, if they don't jump through all these hoops some dumb or very twisted person is going to use that as an excuse to sue the shit out of them.


Like that woman who tried to sue her solicitor for not explaining to her that divorcing her husband would mean the end of her marriage?
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Postby Noraika » Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:59 pm

Hirota wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:I got to see a doctor for my referral today to see a psychiatrist, it was frustrating, I was asked questions like "Do you want kids? You do know you won't be able to have kids if you go through with it, right."
It's to cover their own liability. If they don't ask, if they don't jump through all these hoops some dumb or very twisted person is going to use that as an excuse to sue the shit out of them.

Its also a part of informed consent. You have to be told the affects that a procedure that you'll go through will cause, so that you can properly consent to the treatment. Infertility, and other health risks, are things that we, as patients, have to be made sure that we're aware of. :)
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:00 pm

Set my Facebook profile to refer to me using female pronouns. Not changed to my preferred name because of all the crap around doing that if it's not my legal name.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:42 pm

Socialist Tera wrote:I got to see a doctor for my referral today to see a psychiatrist, it was frustrating, I was asked questions like "Do you want kids? You do know you won't be able to have kids if you go through with it, right."


Wait. Why is a psychiatrist talking to you about the side effects of SRS?
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Postby Aphryss » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:23 pm

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Socialist Tera wrote:I got to see a doctor for my referral today to see a psychiatrist, it was frustrating, I was asked questions like "Do you want kids? You do know you won't be able to have kids if you go through with it, right."


Wait. Why is a psychiatrist talking to you about the side effects of SRS?

HRT causes irreversible infertility after a while, you don't need SRS to spike the ol' baby cannon. And since some people are concerned about having kids in the future, it's a reasonable concern to raise in a psych assessment.

Of course, my psychiatrist went a step further and was like "You know it'll be harder to find romantic or sexual relationships, right?"
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Postby Fabulous Rainicorns » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:30 pm

I feel like I should post here more often, but never have anything new to say. I hate that I'm not actually doing anything but I can't actually do anything yet and I'm extremely resistant to seeing a therapist for no good reason.
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Postby Aphryss » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:32 pm

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:I feel like I should post here more often, but never have anything new to say. I hate that I'm not actually doing anything but I can't actually do anything yet and I'm extremely resistant to seeing a therapist for no good reason.

Use the thread as you need to, is my opinion. You're always welcome here.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:33 pm

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Grenartia wrote:
Wait. Why is a psychiatrist talking to you about the side effects of SRS?

HRT causes irreversible infertility after a while, you don't need SRS to spike the ol' baby cannon. And since some people are concerned about having kids in the future, it's a reasonable concern to raise in a psych assessment.

Of course, my psychiatrist went a step further and was like "You know it'll be harder to find romantic or sexual relationships, right?"

I am kind of confused, because I can't tell if that is a compliment or a complaint? Honestly, I think it's valuable to have a psychiatrist be frank about relationships and things like that, because it is important.
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Postby Aphryss » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:36 pm

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Aphryss wrote:HRT causes irreversible infertility after a while, you don't need SRS to spike the ol' baby cannon. And since some people are concerned about having kids in the future, it's a reasonable concern to raise in a psych assessment.

Of course, my psychiatrist went a step further and was like "You know it'll be harder to find romantic or sexual relationships, right?"

I am kind of confused, because I can't tell if that is a compliment or a complaint? Honestly, I think it's valuable to have a psychiatrist be frank about relationships and things like that, because it is important.

It betrays a fundamental misunderstanding on his part about why I'm transitioning, which is not for relationships or other people. Dude seemed a little obsessed with sex, TBH. And all that shit is just not relevant to me.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:44 pm

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United Marxist Nations wrote:I am kind of confused, because I can't tell if that is a compliment or a complaint? Honestly, I think it's valuable to have a psychiatrist be frank about relationships and things like that, because it is important.

It betrays a fundamental misunderstanding on his part about why I'm transitioning, which is not for relationships or other people. Dude seemed a little obsessed with sex, TBH. And all that shit is just not relevant to me.

But, it should still be a concern. I mean, it isn't at all wrong to say that a significant number of the people who would want to court a trans person will be people seeking it out for the wrong reasons.
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Postby Aphryss » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:47 pm

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Aphryss wrote:It betrays a fundamental misunderstanding on his part about why I'm transitioning, which is not for relationships or other people. Dude seemed a little obsessed with sex, TBH. And all that shit is just not relevant to me.

But, it should still be a concern. I mean, it isn't at all wrong to say that a significant number of the people who would want to court a trans person will be people seeking it out for the wrong reasons.

Yeah, trans chasers exist and are creepy AF. But still, focusing on sexual relationships like that felt like he was completely missing the point.
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Vassenor wrote:Set my Facebook profile to refer to me using female pronouns. Not changed to my preferred name because of all the crap around doing that if it's not my legal name.

They accept a voter registration card as ID. I doubt they could tell if it's photoshopped.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:24 pm

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Socialist Tera wrote:I got to see a doctor for my referral today to see a psychiatrist, it was frustrating, I was asked questions like "Do you want kids? You do know you won't be able to have kids if you go through with it, right."


Wait. Why is a psychiatrist talking to you about the side effects of SRS?

It's a Doctor Who is referring me to see a psychiatrist bot the psychiatrist himself.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:28 pm

Aphryss wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:But, it should still be a concern. I mean, it isn't at all wrong to say that a significant number of the people who would want to court a trans person will be people seeking it out for the wrong reasons.

Yeah, trans chasers exist and are creepy AF. But still, focusing on sexual relationships like that felt like he was completely missing the point.

To be frank. I will be completely toxic and rude to a trans chaser.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:33 pm

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Vassenor wrote:Set my Facebook profile to refer to me using female pronouns. Not changed to my preferred name because of all the crap around doing that if it's not my legal name.

They accept a voter registration card as ID. I doubt they could tell if it's photoshopped.


Wait a second, Facebook makes you give them PID as a way to change your name?! :blink:

I don't remember that being a thing.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:29 pm

Linux and the X wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Set my Facebook profile to refer to me using female pronouns. Not changed to my preferred name because of all the crap around doing that if it's not my legal name.

They accept a voter registration card as ID. I doubt they could tell if it's photoshopped.


Yes, but Jennifer is not my legal name and so I do not have any documentation under it.
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Postby Philjia » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:41 pm

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:I feel like I should post here more often, but never have anything new to say. I hate that I'm not actually doing anything but I can't actually do anything yet and I'm extremely resistant to seeing a therapist for no good reason.


I can see why you wouldn't want to see a therapist. That sort of stuff us really not my thing either. However, if everything is getting on top of you it might be best to bite the bullet and give it a go. :hug:
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