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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:46 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Skyviolia wrote:
Maybe African Americans are that way because we have treated them like shit for the majority of American history? Maybe because the majority of blacks WERE SLAVES and servants and not Government leaders because they were FORCED to live that way?


I agree we treated minority groups in the United States very poorly in the past -- we should have never kidnapped them and forced them into servitude. But we treated Asians like shit, too. Ever heard of forced chinese labour? Japanese interment camps? and yet they are doing better than whites in this country. Don't use our past as an excuse for the failures of modern african-american culture, i think that's a mistake.

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Preposterous. The United States were founded for all men, with concessions made to history because people can be horrible. Strength comes from diversity, though integrated diversity is necessary.


Racism is natural in a society and a community. You will never have minority groups reach equality with the majority group. It only causes division and conflict. That is why, despite hundreds of years and 50 years of social engineering, our groups are still separate. Look at an ethnic map of the United States, hispanics and blacks don't want to live with whites and vis versa. We naturally separate.


Weirdly, I live next to an Italian man. You know, the Brits used to think Southern Europeans were their own race.

...I suppose I should naturally separate from him?
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:49 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
I agree we treated minority groups in the United States very poorly in the past -- we should have never kidnapped them and forced them into servitude. But we treated Asians like shit, too. Ever heard of forced chinese labour? Japanese interment camps? and yet they are doing better than whites in this country. Don't use our past as an excuse for the failures of modern african-american culture, i think that's a mistake.



Racism is natural in a society and a community. You will never have minority groups reach equality with the majority group. It only causes division and conflict. That is why, despite hundreds of years and 50 years of social engineering, our groups are still separate. Look at an ethnic map of the United States, hispanics and blacks don't want to live with whites and vis versa. We naturally separate.


Weirdly, I live next to an Italian man. You know, the Brits used to think Southern Europeans were their own race.

...I suppose I should naturally separate from him?


Though britons and southern europeans are different, the difference between different european groups is very, very slight compared to the difference between, say, an african and a european. Europeans share a very similar culture. You can't compare different european sub-groups to the entirely difference races (E.G., Japanese vs Korean/Italian vs French compared to French vs Algerian)
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Postby Skyviolia » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:51 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Weirdly, I live next to an Italian man. You know, the Brits used to think Southern Europeans were their own race.

...I suppose I should naturally separate from him?


Though britons and southern europeans are different, the difference between different european groups is very, very slight compared to the difference between, say, an african and a european. Europeans share a very similar culture. You can't compare different european sub-groups to the entirely difference races (E.G., Japanese vs Korean/Italian vs French compared to French vs Algerian)

The point is what you do or do not consider different races is entirely subjective, and is opening a Pandora's box.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:52 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Weirdly, I live next to an Italian man. You know, the Brits used to think Southern Europeans were their own race.

...I suppose I should naturally separate from him?


Though britons and southern europeans are different, the difference between different european groups is very, very slight compared to the difference between, say, an african and a european. Europeans share a very similar culture. You can't compare different european sub-groups to the entirely difference races (E.G., Japanese vs Korean/Italian vs French compared to French vs Algerian)


So you're saying there's a, say, inverse square law of racial housing? For every 0.001% of the human genome I don't share with someone I have to live a mile further away from them?
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:54 pm

I'm not going to bother going back to count, but I believe that this is the third time that I have warned this thread to get back on track.

Imperial American Union, it is especially poor form to hijack your own thread.

If this continues, the thread will be locked for an indefinite period of time while I consult with the Mod Team as to what to do with it, and warnings will be handed out.

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Postby Genivaria » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:57 pm

Skyviolia wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
Though britons and southern europeans are different, the difference between different european groups is very, very slight compared to the difference between, say, an african and a european. Europeans share a very similar culture. You can't compare different european sub-groups to the entirely difference races (E.G., Japanese vs Korean/Italian vs French compared to French vs Algerian)

The point is what you do or do not consider different races is entirely subjective, and is opening a Pandora's box.

It's funny how so called 'racial realism' has ignorance of biology at its very core.

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:00 pm

Police officer Betty Shelby has been charged with 1st degree manslaughter
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/22/us/tulsa- ... index.html
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Postby Galloism » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:01 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Police officer Betty Shelby has been charged with 1st degree manslaughter
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/22/us/tulsa- ... index.html

The evidence must not support the narrative being peddled in this thread.

At least we can say there's enough evidence for an indictment (which, I will remind everyone, is the "more likely than not" standard).
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:02 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Police officer Betty Shelby has been charged with 1st degree manslaughter
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/22/us/tulsa- ... index.html

WHHAAATT!?
I was NOT expecting that to happen.
Lets see if there's a serious investigation now.

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Postby Genivaria » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:03 pm

Galloism wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Police officer Betty Shelby has been charged with 1st degree manslaughter
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/22/us/tulsa- ... index.html

The evidence must not support the narrative being peddled in this thread.

At least we can say there's enough evidence for an indictment (which, I will remind everyone, is the "more likely than not" standard).

I'm confused, what narrative would that be?

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Postby Galloism » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:04 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Galloism wrote:The evidence must not support the narrative being peddled in this thread.

At least we can say there's enough evidence for an indictment (which, I will remind everyone, is the "more likely than not" standard).

I'm confused, what narrative would that be?

Oh you know, that black people are basically mindless thugs that need to be put down like rabid dogs.

That narrative.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:05 pm

Galloism wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I'm confused, what narrative would that be?

Oh you know, that black people are basically mindless thugs that need to be put down like rabid dogs.

That narrative.

Gotcha.

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Postby Balkenreich » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:06 pm

Galloism wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I'm confused, what narrative would that be?

Oh you know, that black people are basically mindless thugs that need to be put down like rabid dogs.

That narrative.


I mean, its not the "Cops are racist genocidal maniacs" but hey, shitters cant be choosers.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:08 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
Galloism wrote:Oh you know, that black people are basically mindless thugs that need to be put down like rabid dogs.

That narrative.


I mean, its not the "Cops are racist genocidal maniacs" but hey, shitters cant be choosers.

Yeah that's not really being put forward by anyone.

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Postby Galloism » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:09 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Galloism wrote:Oh you know, that black people are basically mindless thugs that need to be put down like rabid dogs.

That narrative.

Gotcha.

That being said, even an indictment is not definitive although it is a cause for taking this even more seriously than we already did.

In order to secure an indictment, generally, you must prove the person's guilt by the preponderance of evidence standard. You must prove that there is a greater than even chance that the crime in question occurred. Now, there's a long running joke that you can indict a ham sandwich, but given how quickly this has moved, the evidence is *probably* strong.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:12 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Police officer Betty Shelby has been charged with 1st degree manslaughter
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/22/us/tulsa- ... index.html

WHHAAATT!?
I was NOT expecting that to happen.
Lets see if there's a serious investigation now.

I don't think anyone was expecting it to happen
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:14 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Police officer Betty Shelby has been charged with 1st degree manslaughter
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/22/us/tulsa- ... index.html

WHHAAATT!?
I was NOT expecting that to happen.
Lets see if there's a serious investigation now.


I tend to get tons of jury callups, maybe i'll get lucky since i live there haha.
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Postby Galloism » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:14 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Genivaria wrote:WHHAAATT!?
I was NOT expecting that to happen.
Lets see if there's a serious investigation now.


I tend to get tons of jury callups, maybe i'll get lucky since i live there haha.

Well I'd disqualify you.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:14 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Genivaria wrote:WHHAAATT!?
I was NOT expecting that to happen.
Lets see if there's a serious investigation now.


I tend to get tons of jury callups, maybe i'll get lucky since i live there haha.

You'll get thown off of the jury
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:16 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Genivaria wrote:WHHAAATT!?
I was NOT expecting that to happen.
Lets see if there's a serious investigation now.


I tend to get tons of jury callups, maybe i'll get lucky since i live there haha.


"Do you have any beliefs that may prevent you from making a decision based solely on the law?"

Keeping in mind lying to get around this question is perjury.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:16 pm

Galloism wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
I tend to get tons of jury callups, maybe i'll get lucky since i live there haha.

Well I'd disqualify you.


Thermodolia wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
I tend to get tons of jury callups, maybe i'll get lucky since i live there haha.

You'll get thown off of the jury



You don't think i'd really be dumb enough to make my view plain in such a situation, do you?
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:17 pm

I believe I remember reading an infographic that stated 142 unarmed Black American men had been killed by police since the death of Michael Brown in 2014. Honestly, it's a shame that this man will go down as part of another statistic. I do think that policee departments across the nation need to undergo serious revisions and look at how they can prevent themselves from furthering this atrocious behavior.
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Postby Galloism » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:18 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Galloism wrote:Well I'd disqualify you.


Thermodolia wrote:You'll get thown off of the jury



You don't think i'd really be dumb enough to make my view plain in such a situation, do you?

Well, if there's an 11-1 mistrial, I'm going to call the prosecutor's office and tell them that there was someone who might be a juror that was posting online that they planned to deliberately undermine the legal process in violation of their oath as a juror.

Evidence of such could land you with criminal charges, and I don't feel bad about it.
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Postby Balkenreich » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:18 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
I tend to get tons of jury callups, maybe i'll get lucky since i live there haha.

You'll get thown off of the jury


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Postby Genivaria » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:20 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You'll get thown off of the jury


"That man was a Nigger so therefor he deserved to die, your honor."
"...what the fuck is wrong with you? Youre in the bathroom for chrissakes and youve been dismissed this morning. Its 6PM."

Pfft HA!
Okay that was good.

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