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by Sedgistan » Sat Jul 02, 2016 3:21 am
by WayNeacTia » Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:05 pm
Sedgistan wrote:Texasa finally managed to submit a coherent appeal a few days ago; this has been granted - his WA ban has been removed, and his main nation can be restored.
Regarding removal of bans upon expiry, these will need to be done manually, and will be done at some point on the day following their expiry. Don't rely on them being removed the second they end.
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
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by General Knot » Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:08 pm
Wayneactia wrote:It just seems curious that Knot, Koth, and 94 Block were all punished while claiming they had no knowledge of the usage of Predator, yet not one person from The Black Hawks was touched?
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:58 pm
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by Evil Wolf » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:14 pm
Wayneactia wrote:Surely Everwandering Souls must have at least known of the existence of Predator. Given that The Black Riders and DEN both had operational alliance with The Black Hawks. What was Redbacks knowledge of it? Jakker? Mall for that matter?
Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
Crazy Girl wrote:Invading was never illegal
[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.
by WayNeacTia » Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:02 pm
Evil Wolf wrote:Wayneactia wrote:Surely Everwandering Souls must have at least known of the existence of Predator. Given that The Black Riders and DEN both had operational alliance with The Black Hawks. What was Redbacks knowledge of it? Jakker? Mall for that matter?
That's some nice baseless speculation you got there. I like the added touch where you insinuate that a Moderator probably had advanced knowledge of either Predator and/or its illegal status, something that more than half the people using Predator were unaware of.
Got any reasoning or proof behind these loaded accusation or are you just firing blindly at TBH in the off chance you'll hit something?
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by Evil Wolf » Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:32 pm
Wayneactia wrote: Do you care to answer my original question or does it not personally affect you enough to be bothered?
Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
Crazy Girl wrote:Invading was never illegal
[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.
by Luziyca » Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:22 am
Sedgistan wrote:Texasa finally managed to submit a coherent appeal a few days ago; this has been granted - his WA ban has been removed, and his main nation can be restored.
Regarding removal of bans upon expiry, these will need to be done manually, and will be done at some point on the day following their expiry. Don't rely on them being removed the second they end.
by Indo-Malaysia » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:34 pm
by Benevolent Thomas » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:40 pm
Indo-Malaysia wrote:Is it still against the rules to call a region DEN, The Black Riders or Nugut?
Ballotonia wrote:Personally, I think there's something seriously wrong with a game if it willfully allows the destruction of longtime player communities in favor of kids whose sole purpose is to enjoy ruining the game for others.
by Indo-Malaysia » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:43 pm
by Anerastreia » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:12 pm
Indo-Malaysia wrote:Is it still against the rules to call a region DEN, The Black Riders or Nugut?
by Lyra and Bon Bon » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:18 pm
by Ayvari » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:20 pm
Lyra and Bon Bon wrote:Benevolent Thomas wrote:Why on earth would anyone want to tarnish their reputation by calling their region one of these names?
Well Evil Wolf is still banging on about wanting his totally-not-affiliated-in-any-way-with-DEN region 'The DEN' back, so it does appear there are some that desperately want to use 'DEN' if it were allowed
Severisen wrote:You literally couldn't have missed the point more, even if you endorsed the native delegate.
Northern Chittowa wrote:If you look at those who have made names for themselves in this game, they are those who have stood up to defenders on an equal footin and actually beaten them on a tactical level...Those are the ones who will be remembered and indeed revered in history.
Syberis Montresor-Isaraider: There should be no distinction between a good raider and a good member of the GP community.
by Guy » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:24 pm
Ayvari wrote:Lyra and Bon Bon wrote:
Well Evil Wolf is still banging on about wanting his totally-not-affiliated-in-any-way-with-DEN region 'The DEN' back, so it does appear there are some that desperately want to use 'DEN' if it were allowed
Yeah, because it's his trophy. Evil Wolf isn't DEN and doesn't have their interests at heart.
[violet] wrote:Never underestimate the ability of admin to do nothing.
by Indo-Malaysia » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:10 pm
Guy wrote:Ayvari wrote:Yeah, because it's his trophy. Evil Wolf isn't DEN and doesn't have their interests at heart.
It's his trophy because of the association with the name of the invader group DEN. Let's be honest here -- I'd be very much surprised if he didn't grab the region in the first place for that name, and that is likely what the region "The Den" will continue to be associated with.
Having said that, as long as it's not used in a similar fashion as the group DEN would have, I'm not terribly bothered by it.
by Drop Your Pants » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:38 pm
Indo-Malaysia wrote:A bit off-topic, but I still find this weird:
by Eluvatar » Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:05 pm
by Solorni » Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:31 pm
Guy wrote:Ayvari wrote:Yeah, because it's his trophy. Evil Wolf isn't DEN and doesn't have their interests at heart.
It's his trophy because of the association with the name of the invader group DEN. Let's be honest here -- I'd be very much surprised if he didn't grab the region in the first place for that name, and that is likely what the region "The Den" will continue to be associated with.
Having said that, as long as it's not used in a similar fashion as the group DEN would have, I'm not terribly bothered by it.
by Xoriet » Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:04 pm
Solorni wrote:Guy wrote:It's his trophy because of the association with the name of the invader group DEN. Let's be honest here -- I'd be very much surprised if he didn't grab the region in the first place for that name, and that is likely what the region "The Den" will continue to be associated with.
Having said that, as long as it's not used in a similar fashion as the group DEN would have, I'm not terribly bothered by it.
Don't forget though that Evil Wolf runs a region of people pretending to be wolves for various purposes. So it is entirely possible he took the den on this basis.
by Evil Wolf » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:18 am
Guy wrote:It's his trophy because of the association with the name of the invader group DEN. Let's be honest here -- I'd be very much surprised if he didn't grab the region in the first place for that name, and that is likely what the region "The Den" will continue to be associated with.
Guy wrote:Having said that, as long as it's not used in a similar fashion as the group DEN would have, I'm not terribly bothered by it.
Xoriet wrote:I thought Evil Wolf was a little girl.
Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
Crazy Girl wrote:Invading was never illegal
[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.
by WayNeacTia » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:20 pm
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by Ayvari » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:05 pm
Wayneactia wrote:I am still confused about all of this. The script was deemed illegal by a mod who ran it I am assuming? A mod with defender ties nonetheless? Punishments were carried out by another senior mod from a defender aligned region? How was the script ran by the mod in the first place? From what I have read it seems that it requires some password for access? Did that mod contact the creator of said script for access? Was said creator willing to grant access even though they are banned from the site? Does none of this even seem remotely suspicious to anyone?
Severisen wrote:You literally couldn't have missed the point more, even if you endorsed the native delegate.
Northern Chittowa wrote:If you look at those who have made names for themselves in this game, they are those who have stood up to defenders on an equal footin and actually beaten them on a tactical level...Those are the ones who will be remembered and indeed revered in history.
Syberis Montresor-Isaraider: There should be no distinction between a good raider and a good member of the GP community.
by WayNeacTia » Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:16 pm
Ayvari wrote:Wayneactia wrote:I am still confused about all of this. The script was deemed illegal by a mod who ran it I am assuming? A mod with defender ties nonetheless? Punishments were carried out by another senior mod from a defender aligned region? How was the script ran by the mod in the first place? From what I have read it seems that it requires some password for access? Did that mod contact the creator of said script for access? Was said creator willing to grant access even though they are banned from the site? Does none of this even seem remotely suspicious to anyone?
I do not know what you read to come up with this. It may be the silliest interpretation of events yet.
- Script was created by Halcones.
- Script is inaccessible without Halcones' say-so.
- Script was used for a year and a half or so.
- Script raised concerns when people still used it after Halcones was DoS.
- Script was brought to the Mods.
- Script was deemed illegal by Mods/Admins.
- Script users were punished.
No Moderators were implicated in the investigation or reveal of the users of Predator.
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by Reploid Productions » Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:23 pm
Wayneactia wrote:Ayvari wrote:I do not know what you read to come up with this. It may be the silliest interpretation of events yet.
- Script was created by Halcones.
- Script is inaccessible without Halcones' say-so.
- Script was used for a year and a half or so.
- Script raised concerns when people still used it after Halcones was DoS.
- Script was brought to the Mods.
- Script was deemed illegal by Mods/Admins.
- Script users were punished.
No Moderators were implicated in the investigation or reveal of the users of Predator.
Is Eluvatar not a mod? They claim the script violates the API rate and does not set a user agent. How would they have been able to figure this out without running the script first?
[violet] wrote:Maybe we could power our new search engine from the sexual tension between you two.
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