Llorens wrote:If you don't think this is of international relevance, I'm sure there'd be quite a few passed resolutions that you wouldn't agree with either.
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by Separatist Peoples » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:06 pm
Llorens wrote:If you don't think this is of international relevance, I'm sure there'd be quite a few passed resolutions that you wouldn't agree with either.
by Tinfect » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:36 pm
Llorens wrote:Tinfect wrote:
OOC:
It doesn't belong in Furtherment of Democracy, I can tell you that right off the bat. I'm thinking that it would best fit in Social Justice, or, Human Rights, depending on how you spin it, but you'll have a hard time convincing anyone that this is even slightly of international relevance, myself included.
If you don't think this is of international relevance, I'm sure there'd be quite a few passed resolutions that you wouldn't agree with either.
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by New Dukaine » Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:06 pm
by Llorens » Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:04 pm
by Wallenburg » Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:07 pm
Llorens wrote:Unfortunately, I'm not asking for your opinion on whether you believe it is an international issue (myself and many others would think it is), I am rather asking for constructive feedback. If it isn't constructive feedback, please don't.
by Imperium Anglorum » Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:16 pm
Llorens wrote:Unfortunately, I'm not asking for your opinion on whether you believe it is an international issue (myself and many others would think it is), I am rather asking for constructive feedback. If it isn't constructive feedback, please don't.
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by Tinfect » Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:47 pm
Llorens wrote:Unfortunately, I'm not asking for your opinion on whether you believe it is an international issue (myself and many others would think it is), I am rather asking for constructive feedback. If it isn't constructive feedback, please don't.
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by World Assembly Improvement Foundation » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:38 am
by Wallenburg » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:42 am
World Assembly Improvement Foundation wrote:Or it indicates a pattern of people asking rhetorical questions they know the new player can't answer, waiting for the draft to die, only to have to repeat the whole cycle again in a few days. I don't recall why Net Neutrality was repealed, but I stand with IA in that this is an idea of some merit, and there should be an internet access proposal.
by World Assembly Improvement Foundation » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:50 am
Wallenburg wrote:World Assembly Improvement Foundation wrote:Or it indicates a pattern of people asking rhetorical questions they know the new player can't answer, waiting for the draft to die, only to have to repeat the whole cycle again in a few days. I don't recall why Net Neutrality was repealed, but I stand with IA in that this is an idea of some merit, and there should be an internet access proposal.
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You think that there is merit in demanding that nations without internet technology provide internet to everyone?
by Wallenburg » Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:04 am
World Assembly Improvement Foundation wrote:Wallenburg wrote:...
You think that there is merit in demanding that nations without internet technology provide internet to everyone?
No, I think there is merit in demanding that nations which possess internet technology provide public access to the internet. Only a few people took issue with the proposal demanding non-internet nations provide internet (you and Dukaine, and then Tinfect) and that wasn't what the author was saying in the post you responded to. The author was talking about the "not an international issue" claim, which frankly is getting old and isn't very convincing here.
by Normlpeople » Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:12 am
1. Every WA nation must give their citizens access to the internet, as this will clearly boost their connection to all nations and encourage the growth of knowledge and education.
2. A nation may still choose to block certain content, as long as this does not infringe on their citizen's necessity of human rights (i.e. their education and social interconnectedness).
3. All access provided to the internet must be free of charge, so as to not be counterproductive and push the poorer further away from society.
by World Assembly Improvement Foundation » Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:19 am
by Razgriskm » Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:55 am
Llorens wrote:Please provide any feedback on my General Assembly proposal, the Internet Act:
http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vie ... 1466813455
If you can't access the link, or you're not bothered:
1. RECOGNISES that the internet is a valuable and essential resource to the further development of society.
2. NOTES that many individuals and groups may be restricted from the internet and, therefore, the human right to be able to use this resource for educational and social purposes.
3. UNDERSTANDS that the positives (i.e. educational and social benefits) clearly outweigh the negatives (i.e. cost) of internet usage.
4. REALISES that a world without the internet would further divide and primitivize nations, as the internet is a key component in a quickly changing modern society.
Therefore, The Internet Act hereby declares that:
1. Every WA nation must give their citizens access to the internet, as this will clearly boost their connection to all nations and encourage the growth of knowledge and education.
2. A nation may still choose to block certain content, as long as this does not infringe on their citizen's necessity of human rights (i.e. their education and social interconnectedness).
3. All access provided to the internet must be free of charge, so as to not be counterproductive and push the poorer further away from society.
by Llorens » Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:37 am
by Imperium Anglorum » Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:54 am
by New Dukaine » Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:23 am
World Assembly Improvement Foundation wrote:
OOC:
And pesticide use is?
And regardless of your argument about why pesticides in New Dukaine could affect the ecosystems of planets behind Tinfect's completely closed (and I mean, literally sealed off in space and time) borders, surely you don't think abortion is an international issue?And can someone please tell me why this IS an international issue?
The same reason freedom of expression is.WHAT THE F}*# IS AN INTERNET?
Something between the nets. Like international is between nations.We use the uhhhhhhhhh... what do we call it, Oh! We use the New Dukainese Web connection device!
Exit again
Contrary to popular belief, the internet and the Web are not the same thing.Tinfect wrote:OOC:
It doesn't belong in Furtherment of Democracy, I can tell you that right off the bat.
It increases political freedom by allowing access to a medium known for being able to rapidly spread political messages anonymously. I mean, just look at this website and tell me that being able to access NS doesn't expand your ability to learn about different ideologies and promote your own.Llorens wrote:If you don't think this is of international relevance, I'm sure there'd be quite a few passed resolutions that you wouldn't agree with either.
Ambassador Markhov doesn't. In fact, he has argued against the entire category of Furtherment of Democracy and pretty much all of Free Trade, too, in addition to Preventing Animal Abuse (which is about to be repealed) and many others besides (having personally repealed World Space Administration).Wallenburg wrote:"Ambassador, you don't get to decide what we say. In any case, a pattern of opposition to the very principle of this proposal indicates that this draft is not a good idea."
Or it indicates a pattern of people asking rhetorical questions they know the new player can't answer, waiting for the draft to die, only to have to repeat the whole cycle again in a few days. I don't recall why Net Neutrality was repealed, but I stand with IA in that this is an idea of some merit, and there should be an internet access proposal.
by Imperium Anglorum » Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:56 am
New Dukaine wrote:1. Pesticide use is an international issue. I have a very good job for you! Go to page 5 of the PR thread in the archives and read Seperatist People's response. Boom. And fucking abortion is an international issue. It wouldn't be if there weren't like FIVE WA RESOLUTIONS ON IT
by Araraukar » Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:20 am
surely you don't think abortion is an international issue?
Something between the nets. Like international is between nations.
It increases political freedom by allowing access to a medium known for being able to rapidly spread political messages anonymously.
Or it indicates a pattern of people asking rhetorical questions they know the new player can't answer, waiting for the draft to die, only to have to repeat the whole cycle again in a few days.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Imperium Anglorum » Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:24 am
by Separatist Peoples » Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:36 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:New Dukaine wrote:1. Pesticide use is an international issue. I have a very good job for you! Go to page 5 of the PR thread in the archives and read Seperatist People's response. Boom. And fucking abortion is an international issue. It wouldn't be if there weren't like FIVE WA RESOLUTIONS ON IT
Pesticide use is not an international issue. Pesticides crossing borders, however, is by definition an international issue. I have a pretty clear standard on what is and is not an international issue. If multiple nations must cooperate to solve it, it is. There are also different elements, such as human rights and the general specification of how life ought be lived. Those are different matters, which this would fall into.
I don't buy that abortion is an international issue from the appeal to tradition of two resolutions on it. Provide arguments to why you believe it to be an international issue.
More honestly, I am unsure why everyone sees fit to dogpile this thread with opposition messages. Is it because all the cool kids™ are doing it? There is merit to this proposal here and it could go far (or, rather, it could go FoD).
by Imperium Anglorum » Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:53 am
Separatist Peoples wrote:Tying this into this proposal, internet access may have an international impact, as it affects the ability of individuals to engage in the free market of ideas globally and engage in the international market more readily. That said, its a bit of a stretch as an actual issue.
by Araraukar » Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:07 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Please explain to me how responding calmly as done here with clear and logical responses somehow constitutes bullying.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Imperium Anglorum » Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:12 am
Araraukar wrote:Imperium Anglorum wrote:Please explain to me how responding calmly as done here with clear and logical responses somehow constitutes bullying.
OOC: Because they're hiding behind an official-looking puppet to poke at an off-topic subject in a way that's designed to rouse ire from their target.
by Araraukar » Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:18 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:*snip*
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
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