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Should the UK remain a member of the EU or leave the EU

Remain a member of the EU (UK citizen)
279
18%
Leave the EU (UK citizen)
207
13%
Remain a member of the EU (citizen of other EU member)
146
9%
Leave the EU (citizen of other EU member)
99
6%
Remain a member of the EU (non-EU citizen)
432
27%
Leave the EU (non-EU citizen)
414
26%
 
Total votes : 1577

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The balkens
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Postby The balkens » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:50 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:No shit. Are you seeing this?

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Fuck me sideways...is there no way Parliament can override?


And put their own skin at risk?

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Oneracon
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Postby Oneracon » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:50 pm

San Lumen wrote:Everyone trashing the result and calling the British people stupid are completely off base. The people voted in a free and fair referendum and that result has to be respected. To ignore it would be an affront to democracy and complexly wrong.

We are respecting their decision. We just also think it was stupid.

Ah well, hopefully the Pound stays low until mid-August so it'll knock a few bucks off my trip to London.
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Costa Fierro
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Postby Costa Fierro » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:50 pm

Souseiseki wrote:do i look like i'm fucking laughing? do you think this is fucking funny?


I think this is hilarious. Let the world burn.
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The East Marches
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Postby The East Marches » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:50 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
I would not be surprised. Do you know what his stance was on this topic? I've not kept on my Ron Paul related news.


This is something. He did predict gold will rise.


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The United Colonies of Earth
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:50 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
oh cool

i hope we can have an "interesting" conversation later on about it and i hope you look back and slightly regret drunkenly laughing at sincere concerns over serious issues (presented in a slightly bombastic way because they're huge fucking issues


You're asking people to not do what's been done to them for years.
Now you realize how it's feels.

ofcourse they're going to laugh at you, mock you, and pretend nothing is wrong and you're just whining. Why wouldn't they? For once, their policy that you are scared of is getting forced on you.

All I can think of is a line from a recent issue: "Our foundation as a great country, our very success started when that tyrant Oswyn was violently ripped apart by blackout drunk peasants!"
San Lumen wrote:Everyone trashing the result and calling the British people stupid are completely off base. The people voted in a free and fair referendum and that result has to be respected. To ignore it would be an affront to democracy and complexly wrong.

As a person whose morals follow my own appetite for action, I disagree. To ignore it would be distasteful. To have it exist in the same universe as oneself is disappointing. To give support to an affront to democracy would appeal to my desire to defy others.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:50 pm

Valystria wrote:
New haven america wrote:They don't know what a fight for independence is.

Yeah, they do, they've put down plenty.

Eh, true.
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FreYhill
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Postby FreYhill » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:50 pm

San Lumen wrote:Everyone trashing the result and calling the British people stupid are completely off base. The people voted in a free and fair referendum and that result has to be respected. To ignore it would be an affront to democracy and complexly wrong.


they are still stupid

look at all the stockmarkets that are open.

http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/asia/

the Brits have voted to leave the EU without thinking about the repercussions it will bring

the pound is the lowest it has ever been in 30 years.

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The Liberated Territories
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:50 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Tfw brexiters are talking about being rational


Broad brushes, fam, don't use 'em. There are rational arguments on both sides and you know it.

Besides, you're an anarchist, why would you support the EU....?


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Waldriech
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Postby Waldriech » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:50 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:I need a drink or two. Or twelve. I can feel my money slipping away.


You and me bolth, :(. I'm American, but it looks like it will be a bad day in our stock market tomorrow. That's an area where a lot of my money lies.
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Ralkovian Grand Island
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Postby Ralkovian Grand Island » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:51 pm

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Postby Maineiacs » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:51 pm

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Souseiseki
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Postby Souseiseki » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:51 pm

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The East Marches
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Postby The East Marches » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:51 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
Stock account or IRL business?

Both.


Rest in pepperoni my friend. I'm only gonna be dealing with my stock account taking a hit. God speed.
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Anywhere Else But Here
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Postby Anywhere Else But Here » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:51 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:No shit. Are you seeing this?

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Fuck me sideways...is there no way Parliament can override?

It absolutely can-legally. Politically? That would be "courageous".

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Valystria
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Founded: Jul 29, 2015
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Postby Valystria » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:51 pm

Vassenor wrote:So yeah, I'm officially ashamed to call myself British now.

You can always leave Britain if you're so ashamed of it.

Oneracon wrote:
Valystria wrote:That is very demeaning to the British people who sincerely feel they are on the verge of winning a hard-fought independence from the tyranny of Brussels.

What tyranny? The UK had more leeway within the EU than anyone.


Had more leeway due to constant fear of Brexit looming around the corner. That's the only reason the EU didn't demand Britain take in Muslim migrants under penalty of hefty fines.

With an arrangement like that, it's entirely reasonable for the British to wish to leave.
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Empire of Narnia
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:51 pm

I support the UK's decision fully. I laughed like a psychopath when I saw the results.

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Freefall11111
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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:51 pm

Standard Chartered's Hong Kong shares are down 12.5%. HSBC's Hong Kong shares are down 11%.

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Liriena
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:51 pm

Valystria wrote:
Liriena wrote:I did not literally mean that Ostro has no right to do so. He does have that right, but personally find talk of Brexit as the UK's "independence day" to be rather bewildering and irritating, as someone whose country actually has a well-earned independence day, in honour of the day when we declared ourselves a sovereign republic, free from our colonial overlords. Not in honour of the day when we refused to join the ALCA.

That is very demeaning to the British people who sincerely feel they are on the verge of winning a hard-fought independence from the tyranny of Brussels.

"Hard-fought"? "Tyranny"?

You held a referendum to leave the European Union. You did not just have an armed revolution against a foreign occupation.
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:51 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Tfw brexiters are talking about being rational


Broad brushes, fam, don't use 'em. There are rational arguments on both sides and you know it.

Besides, you're an anarchist, why would you support the EU....?

I don't but shit like this is not the way to enact positive change when every expert is telling you it's a fucking awful idea

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Ralkovian Grand Island
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Postby Ralkovian Grand Island » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:51 pm

The balkens wrote:
Ralkovian Grand Island wrote:
Deus Vult.


on to brussels!

Smash the elitist structure!


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Ralk: I have stacks on stacks and racks on racks of slaves.
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Estainia: The countless genocides...So many countless genocides.


Old Tyrannia wrote:You've never met Ralk before, have you? Ralk doesn't have friends.
He only respects the strong, and preys on the weak.
He might act polite and smile all the time, but always remember...
The day will come when you'll wake up to find him looming over your bed,
knife in hand, and he'll still be smiling.

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Ostroeuropa
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:51 pm

Souseiseki wrote:BREAKING: Sinn Fein says "British government has forfeited any mandate to represent economic or political interests of people in N Ireland"


The Irish Nationalists saying they are in favor of Irish Nationalism? Surely not.
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The Alexanderians
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Postby The Alexanderians » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:51 pm

The balkens wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Fuck me sideways...is there no way Parliament can override?


And put their own skin at risk?

It seems their skins are royally screwed either way might as well take the one that saves the day.
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Postby The East Marches » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:51 pm

Waldriech wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:I need a drink or two. Or twelve. I can feel my money slipping away.


You and me bolth, :(. I'm American, but it looks like it will be a bad day in our stock market tomorrow. That's an area where a lot of my money lies.


Cheer up Amigo, Uncle Sugar won't stop rigging things for us.
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Dushan
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Postby Dushan » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:51 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
Call Ron Paul, its fucking happening.


Image

I wonder if Ron Paul predicted this one, too?


I still can't believe it's happening. Oh boy the next Days are going to be so much fun, unless you'd be in England and have failed to take adequate preparations that is.

All the "shocked" Statements, the possible Stock Market crash, Celebration and Chaos alike on the Isles. Anarchy in the UK heeeay yeah!

Oh and the EU might get nuts over this, the West might fall, so many events at once and all earlier than predicted. Thanks 21th Century, for keeping me so wonderfully... entertained. *chuckles*
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Major-Tom
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:52 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
You seem like a rational guy, so the melodrama can wait. Sure, this will inevitably have damaging short term effects, but to act as if economic anathema will occur is simply unfounded.

So, put down the bottle and turn on the TV, c'mon.

....That said, I can't be a hypocrite, I'm pretty tipsy, but that's for another reason.

You don't understand. The damage that has already been caused is eating into my finances, and most people aren't even awake to panic in the markets yet.


I mean, I'm not British, so maybe take what I say with a grain of salt, alright. I'm a suburban kid from across the Atlantic, after all. That said, I genuinely don't see a stock market collapse or anything unprecedented occurring tonight. Yes, it's going to be a pain in the ass in regards to the financial markets.

But, it'll more likely than not even back out, and a growing world economy, coupled with a British economy not riddled with certain regulations should actually improve in the long run. Overall, I'm fairly satisfied in the decision, though I wish the EU could exist, just not as a monetary union, only as a fiscal union without a central governance. That, my friend, would be ideal, but if we lived in an ideal world, I'd be having sex with Anna Kendrick.

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