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by Dumb Ideologies » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:25 am
by USS Monitor » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:54 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Still open? Are the mods on strike?
by Wallenburg » Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:02 am
by The Imperium Empires » Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:09 am
by Socialist Tera » Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:11 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Still open? Are the mods on strike?
by USS Monitor » Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:12 am
by Wallenburg » Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:23 am
by Hirota » Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:46 am
We will get to your "evidence" (or utter lack therof) in due course.Archbishop Cranmer wrote:This may seem like a provocative title, however in context I feel there is a reasonable amount of evidence to make this hypothesis.
Nothing unreasonable here. I'd argue it fails to recognise the nuance and variations between the various flavours of atheism, but there is nothing outright stupid here."Studies on the demographics of atheism have concluded that self-identified atheists comprise anywhere from 2% to 13% of the world's population"
source; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism
Just because lots of people think it is true does not make it true. Historically religion was used as a quick easy answer to resolving lifes biggest questions - when you can't explain the creation of the universe, the idea of a bearded guy in the sky is as plausible as any other. But typically atheists look at that explaination, see it doesn't fit the known evidence, and question the explaination. That doesn't mean they lack comprehension, but rather they are rational enough to evaluation that assertion.When we look at how the vast majority of the world's population adhere to some kind of theistic Religion, whether monotheistic, polytheistic or henotheistic. It seems like they're is something fundamental to our neurological wiring, that causes us to seek a God(ess) or God(esses). Something fundamental that causes us to comprehend the idea of a being greater than our selves, something that surpasses this physical Earthly realm...
Correlation does not imply causation.Plenty of things appear to have a correlation, but it's relatively obvious to anyone with a functioning brain that they are not linked in anyway whatsoever. The burden is absolutely upon you to demonstrate that there is a link between the two, otherwise this is nothing more that a crappy attempt at pseudoscience. You have utterly failed to demonstrate that so far.When we look at the correlation between Pervasive Developmental Disorder's and Atheism,
No. Because whilst it might be true that most sufferers of autism are atheists, mosts atheists are not autistic. Most atheists are logical individuals who were previously theists at one point or another.could it be that there is a fundamental defect in the brain wiring of an Atheist that causes them to be unable to comprehend the idea of a being greater than them selves? The very nature of a supernatural entity is an abstract concept that would be very dependent, and sensitive to the condition of one's brain wiring.
This book fails to apply any sort of scientific method. It's pseudoscience bullshit. If your argument is predecated on such bullshit, then it is probably not much better.https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=OMRhAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA37&lpg=PA37&dq=Atheism+developmental+disorder&source=bl&ots=XoAemQS71E&sig=z0yEwSP6jgAGwC45Zwvq5KUGLss&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjnrJvP-arMAhWIWywKHRKVDDUQ6AEIHjAA#v=onepage&q=Atheism%20developmental%20disorder&f=false
From the same article:https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/psyched/201205/does-autism-lead-atheism
The people behind the study itself admit that autism is not the only path for atheism. YOUR OWN SOURCE PROVES YOUR CLAIM IS A LIE.He and his collaborators point out that mentalizing deficits are of course not the only path to atheism. There are also cultural and educational influences—exposure to other skeptics, say—and cognitive style—some people are more likely to use rationality to second-guess superstition.
Well, provided that this test measured for intelligence I guess it's possible. This study shown that intelligent people are more likely to be atheists. Given the stupidity of the claims made in the OP by an apparently religious poster, I'd say that does appear to make sense.And if so, would it be possible that in future we may see a prenatal test for Atheism?
For someone who thinks abortion is murder, this section makes you appear at best, a completely hypocritical so-and-so. Most likely you are someone intellectually incapable of processing your cognitive bias. If you are blissful in your idiocy, then good for you, I guess.And if so would you support it? I personally would as if there is even the slightest chance that a neurological disorder could send my Child to hell, I don't think I could live my self knowing, that my and my wife brought them into the world to suffer such a fate. Calvinism, and predestination spring to mind...
This is one of the stupidist posts I've ever seen, and it reflects upon you and your inability to make rational and intelligent decisions. It fails to live up to the claims made in the first paragraph - there is no evidence, there is no credible hypothesis. It's pseudoscience junk.But what do, YOU think NSG?
by Grinning Dragon » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:25 am
The Imperium Empires wrote:This is blatantly offensive and trolling. How come this is still open.
by Platypus Reborn » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:28 am
Grinning Dragon wrote:The Imperium Empires wrote:This is blatantly offensive and trolling. How come this is still open.
Really? I guess I don't find it at all offensive or it's just me that I don't give a shit to begin with. Sure the whole idea of such an OP is off the wall bat shit nonsense, but offensive or trolling is one thing I don't find it either, more of a MEH, whatever dude.
by Wallenburg » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:35 am
Platypus Reborn wrote:Grinning Dragon wrote:Really? I guess I don't find it at all offensive or it's just me that I don't give a shit to begin with. Sure the whole idea of such an OP is off the wall bat shit nonsense, but offensive or trolling is one thing I don't find it either, more of a MEH, whatever dude.
Yea, I think OP is off his meds for his neurological disorder.
by Ad Nihilo » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:48 am
by Dumb Ideologies » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:16 am
Ad Nihilo wrote:Wallenburg wrote:That really isn't necessary...
Oh why not?
Since the mods have decided that the levels of flaming tolerated in this thread will be much higher than anywhere else, might as well roll with it while it lasts. I know for myself I have in the past received temporary bans for things I've posted that were much less offensive than stuff I've said in this thread.
by Cumberlanda » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:23 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Still open? Are the mods on strike?
The Sentinel:Honestly I am looking for a better signature format because this one is hot garbage
Please look at these if you wish to comment on my nation. NS Stats are not the best.by Hirota » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:36 am
by Ifreann » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:38 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Still open? Are the mods on strike?
by Veceria » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:44 am
Hirota wrote:Eh, if this was 4chan and the moderators spontaneously lost their ability to moderate, that would be an excuse to post anthros rather than question posters cognitive abilities.
Zeth Rekia wrote:You making Zeno horny.
DesAnges wrote:People don't deserve respect, they earn it.
FoxTropica wrote:And then Hurdegaryp kissed Thafoo, Meanwhile Fox-Mary-"Sue"-Tropica saved TET from destruction and everyone happily forever.
Then suddenly fights broke out because hey, it's the internet.
by Talvezout » Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:19 am
by Jetan » Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:19 am
by Alaizia » Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:21 am
Ad Nihilo wrote:It would seem that I haven't done the job of communicating the fundamental position that motivates my arguments.
Jesus's philosophy defers justice and the concern for justice out of people's actual lives and onto things beyond life. It is not for you or me to fix the world. It is for God. All that there is for us to do is to fix our conscience before God.
My issue is not with having a good conscience. Very much the opposite. It is about how one goes about having a good conscience. The God of Jesus and the entire millenarian spiel enables you to clean up your conscience on the cheap: mean well, do the random act of kindness, try not to fight back when you perceive you have been slighted, and you're good to go. Or even better, just pray for forgiveness, and pray that everything will be better next time. I believe, and I think you do too, that such an approach is at best useless, and at worst very much counterproductive. It mollifies the often necessary fire of moral indignation that motivates the fight for social justice.
If I can paint a picture: Jesus would give the shirt off his back to a poor beggar. He would not stop to ask why that person was poor and whether there is something about our social arrangements that put that person in the position of being poor. Or whether there is some something we could do to fix those social arrangements. All Jesus has to offer is: "dude, it's all good, suffer in this life and you will be rewarded in the next."
Which is all very well except for the fact that in the next life you are food for worms. And even if there were an afterlife where God rewards/punishes you, there is still no excuse to be so indolent. With Jesus you are responsible for your own "salvation". With any sane system of morality (e.g. Confucianism) you are responsible for the well-being of your fellow man - not just to make sure that they are warm, and have somewhere to sleep, but to make sure that they never have to beg to be warm and have somewhere to sleep.
by Ceterius » Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:26 am
Hirota wrote:I've already said this was one of the stupider posts in NS in recent history, but then I didn't quite have the time to explain precisely why this is that stupidWe will get to your "evidence" (or utter lack therof) in due course.Archbishop Cranmer wrote:This may seem like a provocative title, however in context I feel there is a reasonable amount of evidence to make this hypothesis.Nothing unreasonable here. I'd argue it fails to recognise the nuance and variations between the various flavours of atheism, but there is nothing outright stupid here."Studies on the demographics of atheism have concluded that self-identified atheists comprise anywhere from 2% to 13% of the world's population"
source; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheismJust because lots of people think it is true does not make it true. Historically religion was used as a quick easy answer to resolving lifes biggest questions - when you can't explain the creation of the universe, the idea of a bearded guy in the sky is as plausible as any other. But typically atheists look at that explaination, see it doesn't fit the known evidence, and question the explaination. That doesn't mean they lack comprehension, but rather they are rational enough to evaluation that assertion.When we look at how the vast majority of the world's population adhere to some kind of theistic Religion, whether monotheistic, polytheistic or henotheistic. It seems like they're is something fundamental to our neurological wiring, that causes us to seek a God(ess) or God(esses). Something fundamental that causes us to comprehend the idea of a being greater than our selves, something that surpasses this physical Earthly realm...Correlation does not imply causation.Plenty of things appear to have a correlation, but it's relatively obvious to anyone with a functioning brain that they are not linked in anyway whatsoever. The burden is absolutely upon you to demonstrate that there is a link between the two, otherwise this is nothing more that a crappy attempt at pseudoscience. You have utterly failed to demonstrate that so far.When we look at the correlation between Pervasive Developmental Disorder's and Atheism,No. Because whilst it might be true that most sufferers of autism are atheists, mosts atheists are not autistic. Most atheists are logical individuals who were previously theists at one point or another.could it be that there is a fundamental defect in the brain wiring of an Atheist that causes them to be unable to comprehend the idea of a being greater than them selves? The very nature of a supernatural entity is an abstract concept that would be very dependent, and sensitive to the condition of one's brain wiring.This book fails to apply any sort of scientific method. It's pseudoscience bullshit. If your argument is predecated on such bullshit, then it is probably not much better.https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=OMRhAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA37&lpg=PA37&dq=Atheism+developmental+disorder&source=bl&ots=XoAemQS71E&sig=z0yEwSP6jgAGwC45Zwvq5KUGLss&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjnrJvP-arMAhWIWywKHRKVDDUQ6AEIHjAA#v=onepage&q=Atheism%20developmental%20disorder&f=falseFrom the same article:https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/psyched/201205/does-autism-lead-atheismThe people behind the study itself admit that autism is not the only path for atheism. YOUR OWN SOURCE PROVES YOUR CLAIM IS A LIE.He and his collaborators point out that mentalizing deficits are of course not the only path to atheism. There are also cultural and educational influences—exposure to other skeptics, say—and cognitive style—some people are more likely to use rationality to second-guess superstition.Well, provided that this test measured for intelligence I guess it's possible. This study shown that intelligent people are more likely to be atheists. Given the stupidity of the claims made in the OP by an apparently religious poster, I'd say that does appear to make sense.And if so, would it be possible that in future we may see a prenatal test for Atheism?For someone who thinks abortion is murder, this section makes you appear at best, a completely hypocritical so-and-so. Most likely you are someone intellectually incapable of processing your cognitive bias. If you are blissful in your idiocy, then good for you, I guess.And if so would you support it? I personally would as if there is even the slightest chance that a neurological disorder could send my Child to hell, I don't think I could live my self knowing, that my and my wife brought them into the world to suffer such a fate. Calvinism, and predestination spring to mind...This is one of the stupidist posts I've ever seen, and it reflects upon you and your inability to make rational and intelligent decisions. It fails to live up to the claims made in the first paragraph - there is no evidence, there is no credible hypothesis. It's pseudoscience junk.But what do, YOU think NSG?
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