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Postby Philjia » Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:14 am

Tamsien wrote:
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Hrmrmrmrm. Our definitions of sexuality are based on a binary idea of gender, so I don't think any of them are applicable. What you could use are androphile, gynephile, and androgynephile(?) since they only depend on the gender of subject of one's desire.

I see... While I have seen these terms would you mind detailing each one in breif? Sorry if this is too time consuming, hehe.

But to describe my current situation I'm agender although more leaning to male (still not quite sure, no dysphoria that I know of as well, but agender seems to click with me a fair bit). I feel /bi/ due to the inherent (and unfortunate) binary norm (and sake of convenience), but I can go any way really. If the personality sticks and I like you a lot and you like me back just the same unconditionally, then we can roll with the romancing and such.

is that pan or is that still within gender binary

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Androphile - One who is sexually attracted to males.
Gynephile - One who is sexually attracted to females.
Androgynephile - Not actually a word but logically it would mean one who is sexually attracted to androgynous people.
Panphile - One who is sexually attracted to members of every sex/gender identity.
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Postby Tamsien » Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:17 am

Philjia wrote:
Tamsien wrote:I see... While I have seen these terms would you mind detailing each one in breif? Sorry if this is too time consuming, hehe.

But to describe my current situation I'm agender although more leaning to male (still not quite sure, no dysphoria that I know of as well, but agender seems to click with me a fair bit). I feel /bi/ due to the inherent (and unfortunate) binary norm (and sake of convenience), but I can go any way really. If the personality sticks and I like you a lot and you like me back just the same unconditionally, then we can roll with the romancing and such.

is that pan or is that still within gender binary

rip


Androphile - One who is sexually attracted to males.
Gynephile - One who is sexually attracted to females.
Androgynephile - Not actually a word but logically it would mean one who is sexually attracted to androgynous people.
Panphile - One who is sexually attracted to members of every sex/gender identity.

Thanks~ Not really sure if it simplifies my situation, but I'll keep this in mind.
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Postby Val Halla » Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:08 pm

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Postby Grenartia » Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:07 am

Philjia wrote:
Tamsien wrote:I see... While I have seen these terms would you mind detailing each one in breif? Sorry if this is too time consuming, hehe.

But to describe my current situation I'm agender although more leaning to male (still not quite sure, no dysphoria that I know of as well, but agender seems to click with me a fair bit). I feel /bi/ due to the inherent (and unfortunate) binary norm (and sake of convenience), but I can go any way really. If the personality sticks and I like you a lot and you like me back just the same unconditionally, then we can roll with the romancing and such.

is that pan or is that still within gender binary

rip


Androphile - One who is sexually attracted to males.
Gynephile - One who is sexually attracted to females.
Androgynephile - Not actually a word but logically it would mean one who is sexually attracted to androgynous people.
Panphile - One who is sexually attracted to members of every sex/gender identity.


Why are we using suffixes that refer to fetishes to describe sexual orientation?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:44 am

So either there is a technique to tucking that I don't have down or my body is actively resisting it. :(
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Postby Veceria » Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:50 am

Grenartia wrote:
Philjia wrote:
Androphile - One who is sexually attracted to males.
Gynephile - One who is sexually attracted to females.
Androgynephile - Not actually a word but logically it would mean one who is sexually attracted to androgynous people.
Panphile - One who is sexually attracted to members of every sex/gender identity.


Why are we using suffixes that refer to fetishes to describe sexual orientation?

-philia is the opposite of -phobia. It's used for attraction/affinity, and was used in Chemistry and other stuff long before it was used in Psychology or Biology.
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Postby Philjia » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:11 am

Vassenor wrote:So either there is a technique to tucking that I don't have down or my body is actively resisting it. :(


Try looking for an internet tutorial. Don't do anything to hurt yourself though; I know you don't like those genitals but they're still a part of your body and should be kept intact, for the time being. You'll need them later, if you want SRS.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:13 am

The problem is not so much not knowing what to do as feeling like I need eight hands to hold everything in and get it taped down.

...Also why in the name of all that is holy would people suggest using duct tape for this?
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Postby Val Halla » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:15 am

Vassenor wrote:The problem is not so much not knowing what to do as feeling like I need eight hands to hold everything in and get it taped down.

...Also why in the name of all that is holy would people suggest using duct tape for this?

I've heard sports tape is the best
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:18 am

Whereas I was fighting with this.
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Postby Philjia » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:20 am

Vassenor wrote:The problem is not so much not knowing what to do as feeling like I need eight hands to hold everything in and get it taped down.

...Also why in the name of all that is holy would people suggest using duct tape for this?


:blink: That sounds painful.

Maybe you could try doing it from a different position. Are you standing or lying down?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:21 am

Philjia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:The problem is not so much not knowing what to do as feeling like I need eight hands to hold everything in and get it taped down.

...Also why in the name of all that is holy would people suggest using duct tape for this?


:blink: That sounds painful.

Maybe you could try doing it from a different position. Are you standing or lying down?


Laying down.
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Postby Philjia » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:24 am

Vassenor wrote:
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:blink: That sounds painful.

Maybe you could try doing it from a different position. Are you standing or lying down?


Laying down.


OK, I'm out of ideas.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:52 am

Guess it would also help if the tutorials didn't keep acting like it was easy.
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Postby Philjia » Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:02 am

Vassenor wrote:Guess it would also help if the tutorials didn't keep acting like it was easy.


Are there video tutorials?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:39 am

Philjia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Guess it would also help if the tutorials didn't keep acting like it was easy.


Are there video tutorials?


I haven't found any. :(
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:01 am

Then again everywhere I look seems to be acting like it's easy so I guess I'm just stupid.
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Postby Mirakai » Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:48 am

Vassenor wrote:Then again everywhere I look seems to be acting like it's easy so I guess I'm just stupid.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:53 am

OK, the problem is not getting them inside. The problem is securing them in that position.
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Postby Philjia » Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:21 am

Vassenor wrote:
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Are there video tutorials?

I haven't found any. :(


Maybe try this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyX_JLpluXs
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