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Postby Gravlen » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:16 pm

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Gravlen wrote:Of course. You don't understand what satire is, I guess.

You do understand that the Colbert Report was a joke, right?

Oh, look one more Swede. :rofl:

Sorry, no, but if I was, and Sweden belongs to me (according to you): What's it to you what happens in Sweden? Why should Swedes care about what non-Swedes say?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:18 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Balkan Crusader wrote:Oh, look one more Swede. :rofl:

Sorry, no, but if I was, and Sweden belongs to me (according to you): What's it to you what happens in Sweden? Why should Swedes care about what non-Swedes say?

Jolly good Sir. It's been mostly funny watching Saiwania advocating seditionism in Sweden, wonder what'll happen if I do the same? :p
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Postby Gravlen » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:18 pm

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So what she's doing is blatant Rassenschande then.

No, she is saying that Sweden belongs to the whole world. As I recall not all non-Swedes are black, not all Swedes are white. But again it is your problem. Every government on Earth prioritises citizens over non-nationals.

But then again, to many people (if not most) Sweden is parody. If you look the EU parliament or some others national one, often is pulled the argument "dont you want to end like Sweden?" :D

And quite a few nations, within the EU and outside, would shriek "YES PLEASE!"
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Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:31 pm

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Gravlen wrote:Sorry, no, but if I was, and Sweden belongs to me (according to you): What's it to you what happens in Sweden? Why should Swedes care about what non-Swedes say?

Well, this is racist. According to ABH. Sweden belong to the world according to song I posted. So, if every muslims who never entered Sweden can have a say about Sweden. So, can I

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I don't care what you think, I probably give slightly more fucks about a host for a children's programme here because she's a Swede. She'll sing until there's actually a law, legitimate or not that she violates.

And again, never did I said that she should not sing. Or to bann her to sing the song. I said only, that the moral of the song is not moral and insane. And guess what, it is also freedom of speech. :D You seem to think everybody that does not agree with you is hate speech.

Up to the audience to reject or accept the market of though. I am sure the more inteligent part will surely get the clue.

I do not recall giving my outright opinion of the song. I've asserted that it's Doreen Månsson's freedom to sing whatever the fuck she wants until illegality, and I may even have voiced my objection to it but never have I actually stated my agreement with it. And if you haven't discovered it yet, I don't give a figs worth about what a children's show host does for a living, because it's her own goddamn business.
So in the interest of not pissing anybody off and derailing this thread, I'm going to ask you politely to not put your words into my voice. お願いします。
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Postby The Republic of Pantalleria » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:38 pm

Meh, human empathy seems to be drowning along side the statistical numbers of "refugees" (mostly illegal economic migrants, some war refugees, with a rotten little terrorist cell on top) who die heading into Europe.
I mean I used to have empathy, but... Cologne seemed to be a turning point for that empathy. Granted I know that those people don't represent ALL migrants, still it shows that there are criminals still getting through, afterall, these war torn countries don't seem to be sending their "best" citizens.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:39 pm

The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:Meh, human empathy seems to be drowning along side the statistical numbers of "refugees" (mostly illegal economic migrants, some war refugees, with a rotten little terrorist cell on top) who die heading into Europe.
I mean I used to have empathy, but... Cologne seemed to be a turning point for that empathy. Granted I know that those people don't represent ALL migrants, still it shows that there are criminals still getting through, afterall, these war torn countries don't seem to be sending their "best" citizens.

I think no warzone ever does produce perfectly functional, lawful, happy individuals.
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Postby The Republic of Pantalleria » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:40 pm

Balkan Crusader wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Sorry, no, but if I was, and Sweden belongs to me (according to you): What's it to you what happens in Sweden? Why should Swedes care about what non-Swedes say?

Well, this is racist. According to ABH. Sweden belong to the world according to song I posted. So, if every muslims who never entered Sweden can have a say about Sweden. So, can I

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I don't care what you think, I probably give slightly more fucks about a host for a children's programme here because she's a Swede. She'll sing until there's actually a law, legitimate or not that she violates.

And again, never did I said that she should not sing. Or to bann her to sing the song. I said only, that the moral of the song is not moral and insane. And guess what, it is also freedom of speech. :D You seem to think everybody that does not agree with you is hate speech.

Up to the audience to reject or accept the market of though. I am sure the more inteligent part will surely get the clue.

Also, when are not discussing whether she has a right to sing or not, but whether what she propagades in the song is good.

How as that "racist"? You do realise that "Swede" isn't a race right? In the same way that "American", "Canadian", and "Antarctican" aren't races either. :eyebrow:
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Postby The Republic of Pantalleria » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:43 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:Meh, human empathy seems to be drowning along side the statistical numbers of "refugees" (mostly illegal economic migrants, some war refugees, with a rotten little terrorist cell on top) who die heading into Europe.
I mean I used to have empathy, but... Cologne seemed to be a turning point for that empathy. Granted I know that those people don't represent ALL migrants, still it shows that there are criminals still getting through, afterall, these war torn countries don't seem to be sending their "best" citizens.

I think no warzone ever does produce perfectly functional, lawful, happy individuals.

This is true, which is the perfect reason for the seemingly growing rise of right wing extremism in Europe. I mean, if certain "elements" of this human tide is bringing essentially non-secular beliefs with them, like let's say... Sharia Law, then there will be a backlash eventually from the locals whom have to suffer through it.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:44 pm

The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I think no warzone ever does produce perfectly functional, lawful, happy individuals.

This is true, which is the perfect reason for the seemingly growing rise of right wing extremism in Europe. I mean, if certain "elements" of this human tide is bringing essentially non-secular beliefs with them, like let's say... Sharia Law, then there will be a backlash eventually from the locals whom have to suffer through it.

Didn't we bitch a lot too during the worst days of the Siege of Sarajevo?
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Postby The Republic of Pantalleria » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:46 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:This is true, which is the perfect reason for the seemingly growing rise of right wing extremism in Europe. I mean, if certain "elements" of this human tide is bringing essentially non-secular beliefs with them, like let's say... Sharia Law, then there will be a backlash eventually from the locals whom have to suffer through it.

Didn't we bitch a lot too during the worst days of the Siege of Sarajevo?

Considering that their country is still recovering, is still too economically insufficient to join the EU, and is right now facing a decling population due to the fact that people are emigrating, then I would say that the whining wasn't out of place.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:48 pm

The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Didn't we bitch a lot too during the worst days of the Siege of Sarajevo?

Considering that their country is still recovering, is still too economically insufficient to join the EU, and is right now facing a decling population due to the fact that people are emigrating, then I would say that the whining wasn't out of place.

I guess getting ploughed over and massacred in droves does nothing positive to the economy.
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Postby Kubra » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:49 pm

The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Didn't we bitch a lot too during the worst days of the Siege of Sarajevo?

Considering that their country is still recovering, is still too economically insufficient to join the EU, and is right now facing a decling population due to the fact that people are emigrating, then I would say that the whining wasn't out of place.
wasn't out of place during the seige?
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Postby The Republic of Pantalleria » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:50 pm

Kubra wrote:
The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:Considering that their country is still recovering, is still too economically insufficient to join the EU, and is right now facing a decling population due to the fact that people are emigrating, then I would say that the whining wasn't out of place.
wasn't out of place during the seige?

I meant in general.
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Postby The Republic of Pantalleria » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:51 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:Considering that their country is still recovering, is still too economically insufficient to join the EU, and is right now facing a decling population due to the fact that people are emigrating, then I would say that the whining wasn't out of place.

I guess getting ploughed over and massacred in droves does nothing positive to the economy.

Yeah, civil war is a real donkeyhole.
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Postby Kubra » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:53 pm

The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:
Kubra wrote: wasn't out of place during the seige?

I meant in general.
in general meaning yeah, during the seige?
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Postby Kubra » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:56 pm

Balkan Crusader wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Didn't we bitch a lot too during the worst days of the Siege of Sarajevo?

Ah... I doubt you know a shit about Sarajevo. :D Ok, it is off-topic.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:56 pm

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I do not recall giving my outright opinion of the song. I've asserted that it's Doreen Månsson's freedom to sing whatever the fuck she wants until illegality, and I may even have voiced my objection to it but never have I actually stated my agreement with it. And if you haven't discovered it yet, I don't give a figs worth about what a children's show host does for a living, because it's her own goddamn business.
So in the interest of not pissing anybody off and derailing this thread, I'm going to ask you politely to not put your words into my voice. お願いします。

In that case, you misunderstood me false. I was arguing the moral of the story is false. And she can sing to adults but not to children as they are to small to be indoctrinated with multiculturalism.

Yeah no. I'm pretty bloody fucking certain I never posted anything in effect to this:
Balkan Crusader wrote:According to ABH. Sweden belong to the world according to song I posted.

So you don't get to fucking blame me.
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Postby The Republic of Pantalleria » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:58 pm

Kubra wrote:
The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:I meant in general.
in general meaning yeah, during the seige?

More like the whole conflict, plus the siege.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:58 pm

Balkan Crusader wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Didn't we bitch a lot too during the worst days of the Siege of Sarajevo?

Ah... I doubt you know a shit about Sarajevo. :D Ok, it is off-topic.

I play an Austro-Hungarian Empire. Sarajevo is like... my subject.
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Postby Kubra » Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:07 pm

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I think no warzone ever does produce perfectly functional, lawful, happy individuals.

Neither a warzone can produce rapist who do not follow the hosts laws. I do not recall Bosnians who went from there were raping people en masse in Germany. Not, all migrants have the same caracter.
uhhhhh yes it can
A warzone can most certainly produce that
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:11 pm

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Kubra wrote: uhhhhh yes it can
A warzone can most certainly produce that

No, it dont. Usually refugees are greatefull for the new country, in such manner to respecting the laws. In case, of the current migrants that is not the case.

Uh what idealized, "it's all hugs and cute puppies" world are you from? I haven't seen such whitewashing since the days of the Greater East-Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere.
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Postby Kubra » Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:13 pm

The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:
Kubra wrote: in general meaning yeah, during the seige?

More like the whole conflict, plus the siege.
so it was a-ok to bitch about bosnian refugees during the seige?
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Postby Kubra » Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:13 pm

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The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:Considering that their country is still recovering, is still too economically insufficient to join the EU, and is right now facing a decling population due to the fact that people are emigrating, then I would say that the whining wasn't out of place.

Actually the Croats are emigrating since they can obtain an EU pass without of problem. This fact is making me furious. And population is lower because of birthrates.

Anyway, the country should partitioned between Croatia, Serbia and Turkey/Sweden/small Bosniak state. It is best for all of the inhabitants.
and who will receive sarajevo?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:22 pm

Kubra wrote:
Balkan Crusader wrote:Actually the Croats are emigrating since they can obtain an EU pass without of problem. This fact is making me furious. And population is lower because of birthrates.

Anyway, the country should partitioned between Croatia, Serbia and Turkey/Sweden/small Bosniak state. It is best for all of the inhabitants.
and who will receive sarajevo?

Obviously whatever this "Allah" criminal is.
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Postby Kubra » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:01 pm

Balkan Crusader wrote:
Kubra wrote: and who will receive sarajevo?

The Bosniaks of course. It is overhemigly majority Bosniak. Also, this is how should be partitioned. It is for sake of world peace. :)
world peace by giving the Serbs a bunch of turf
Uhhhhhh
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