[DISCARDED] Ban on Booby-Trapped Aid

[Razgriskm]

As if anyone who joins the WA would have the spine to even booby trap aid in the first place.

[Wallenburg]

As if anyone who joins the WA would have the spine to even booby trap aid in the first place.

"My government would, Ambassador."

[Tinfect]

As if anyone who joins the WA would have the spine to even booby trap aid in the first place.

"First of all, Ambassador, if you're Nation is not a Member State, why are you here? Second, be aware that you are accusing thousands of Nations, of being Spineless. Keep also, in mind, that the Imperium, and certainly many other Member States, have formerly committed far more horrible acts, than merely putting traps in International Aid. Personally, I would contest that it takes any amount of... to use your words, "spine", to trap Aid destined for Civilian Populations. Far more to annihilate any trace of entire civilizations."

[Razgriskm]

As if anyone who joins the WA would have the spine to even booby trap aid in the first place.

"First of all, Ambassador, if you're Nation is not a Member State, why are you here? Second, be aware that you are accusing thousands of Nations, of being Spineless. Keep also, in mind, that the Imperium, and certainly many other Member States, have formerly committed far more horrible acts, than merely putting traps in International Aid. Personally, I would contest that it takes any amount of... to use your words, "spine", to trap Aid destined for Civilian Populations. Far more to annihilate any trace of entire civilizations."

Why would I not be here? No one blocked me at the gate from entering. shrugs

Member states of the assembly are already allowing a foreign tyrant body of nations to regulate their military, space, industry, foreign policy, domestic policy, civil rights, minority rights, and hottopic issues. No one who is a member of a assembly that forces its member nations to legalize the termination of pregnancy has a spine. With all these legislative restrictions it is painfully easy to predict a member nation and how it will behave in warfare, because it can't. It can't use ICBMs, it can't use chemical weaponry, and it can't even control its own laws. Truly, Razgriskm has nothing to fear from womenfolk who talk more than they actually govern their nation, letting the rest of the world do it for them.

[Tinfect]

Member states of the assembly are already allowing a foreign tyrant body of nations to regulate their military, space, industry, foreign policy, domestic policy, civil rights, minority rights, and hottopic issues.

"Hardly a foreign body of Tyrants; a Member State is free to leave whenever their government so desires."

No one who is a member of a assembly that forces its member nations to legalize the termination of pregnancy has a spine.

"And if a Member State had already done so of its own volition, as reasonable Governments tend towards?"

With all these legislative restrictions it is painfully easy to predict a member nation and how it will behave in warfare, because it can't.

"I assure you, the Imperium is fully capable of Warfare. Far more so than your Nation, I am certain."

It can't use ICBMs, it can't use chemical weaponry,

"We have no need of either. Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles, are far outclassed by orbital Weapons Platforms, or Bombardment vessels. Chemical Weaponry is likewise useless against any foe that properly outfits its soldiers."

and it can't even control its own laws.

"Simply not the case, every Member State has a vote, retains the vast majority of its sovereignty, and, again, is free to leave whenever their government so desires."

Truly, Razgriskm has nothing to fear from womenfolk who talk more than they actually govern their nation, letting the rest of the world do it for them.

"Ambassador, I assure you, no good will come from further insults to the Praetor."

[Separatist Peoples]

"First of all, Ambassador, if you're Nation is not a Member State, why are you here? Second, be aware that you are accusing thousands of Nations, of being Spineless. Keep also, in mind, that the Imperium, and certainly many other Member States, have formerly committed far more horrible acts, than merely putting traps in International Aid. Personally, I would contest that it takes any amount of... to use your words, "spine", to trap Aid destined for Civilian Populations. Far more to annihilate any trace of entire civilizations."

Why would I not be here? No one blocked me at the gate from entering. shrugs

Member states of the assembly are already allowing a foreign tyrant body of nations to regulate their military, space, industry, foreign policy, domestic policy, civil rights, minority rights, and hottopic issues. No one who is a member of a assembly that forces its member nations to legalize the termination of pregnancy has a spine. With all these legislative restrictions it is painfully easy to predict a member nation and how it will behave in warfare, because it can't. It can't use ICBMs, it can't use chemical weaponry, and it can't even control its own laws. Truly, Razgriskm has nothing to fear from womenfolk who talk more than they actually govern their nation, letting the rest of the world do it for them.

SILLYNESS.

[Liagolas]

Why would I not be here? No one blocked me at the gate from entering. shrugs

Member states of the assembly are already allowing a foreign tyrant body of nations to regulate their military, space, industry, foreign policy, domestic policy, civil rights, minority rights, and hottopic issues. No one who is a member of a assembly that forces its member nations to legalize the termination of pregnancy has a spine. With all these legislative restrictions it is painfully easy to predict a member nation and how it will behave in warfare, because it can't. It can't use ICBMs, it can't use chemical weaponry, and it can't even control its own laws. Truly, Razgriskm has nothing to fear from womenfolk who talk more than they actually govern their nation, letting the rest of the world do it for them.

"You would dare accuse the Dominion of being spineless?!" the Mouth says, his voice spiking in volume. "You who have intruded upon this august body for no reason but to accuse it of cowardice? It is you who is spineless, for your behavior is like that of a childish bully. You have entered this chamber for no reason other than to spout about how you are supposedly better than the Dominion and its fellow member nations. What are you compensating for?

"The Dominion notes that for all your blathering about the predictability of member nations' warfare you have elected to fight on the battlefield of words. It is the hypothesis of the Dominion that you do so because you know that your country is the one which is weak and spineless. Until you develop the power to annihilate entire planets and species as some of the member nations have such as the Imperium of Tinfect, you would do well to be silent on the matter of who is spineless and who is not."

[The Candy Of Bottles]

"First of all, Ambassador, if you're Nation is not a Member State, why are you here? Second, be aware that you are accusing thousands of Nations, of being Spineless. Keep also, in mind, that the Imperium, and certainly many other Member States, have formerly committed far more horrible acts, than merely putting traps in International Aid. Personally, I would contest that it takes any amount of... to use your words, "spine", to trap Aid destined for Civilian Populations. Far more to annihilate any trace of entire civilizations."

Why would I not be here? No one blocked me at the gate from entering. shrugs

Member states of the assembly are already allowing a foreign tyrant body of nations to regulate their military, space, industry, foreign policy, domestic policy, civil rights, minority rights, and hottopic issues. No one who is a member of a assembly that forces its member nations to legalize the termination of pregnancy has a spine. With all these legislative restrictions it is painfully easy to predict a member nation and how it will behave in warfare, because it can't. It can't use ICBMs, it can't use chemical weaponry, and it can't even control its own laws. Truly, Razgriskm has nothing to fear from womenfolk who talk more than they actually govern their nation, letting the rest of the world do it for them.

Tislam, who had been sitting quietly in the back, rises and addresses the Razgriskmian delegate. "If you want a demonstration of a spine, how about this?" Tislam quickly writes something out on a piece of paper, then trots over and hands it to the foreign delegate. "Next time I catch you here, consider yourself a prisoner of war." With that, Tislam turns and bucks him out the nearest window.

[Wallenburg]

Why would I not be here? No one blocked me at the gate from entering. shrugs

Member states of the assembly are already allowing a foreign tyrant body of nations to regulate their military, space, industry, foreign policy, domestic policy, civil rights, minority rights, and hottopic issues. No one who is a member of a assembly that forces its member nations to legalize the termination of pregnancy has a spine. With all these legislative restrictions it is painfully easy to predict a member nation and how it will behave in warfare, because it can't. It can't use ICBMs, it can't use chemical weaponry, and it can't even control its own laws. Truly, Razgriskm has nothing to fear from womenfolk who talk more than they actually govern their nation, letting the rest of the world do it for them.

"Clearly you don't know anything about the World Assembly. Please refrain from ranting about things you are barely aware of."

[Razgriskm]

OOC: Pshh being a futuristic warhammer empire is cheating d:

It's glaringly obvious the world assembly IS a tyrannical body, condemning and sieging anything with any ambition. The Stahl family pulled from the cutsie little alliance of stray cats with no idea what real suffering is the second they took the seat of power. I can make it clear your /Imperium/ has not felt hardship and terror like we have. Being foraged in the fires of annihilation brought Razgriskm her best asset. Her Strength and unbending will, you'd find no better soldiers to fight in any tight urban environment then right here.

You made a comment referring to legislation passed that was already decided on in your own territory? Well it doesn't matter, the original comment was indeed intended for those who had NOT. Turdus Stahl refused to allow Razgriskm social policy to be dictated by those who don't even understand her society in the least.

Maybe we could have existed in this alliance of weaklings before the time of troubles, but those times are gone, and we are changed. Repeating, this legislation is worthless.

Why would I not be here? No one blocked me at the gate from entering. shrugs

Member states of the assembly are already allowing a foreign tyrant body of nations to regulate their military, space, industry, foreign policy, domestic policy, civil rights, minority rights, and hottopic issues. No one who is a member of a assembly that forces its member nations to legalize the termination of pregnancy has a spine. With all these legislative restrictions it is painfully easy to predict a member nation and how it will behave in warfare, because it can't. It can't use ICBMs, it can't use chemical weaponry, and it can't even control its own laws. Truly, Razgriskm has nothing to fear from womenfolk who talk more than they actually govern their nation, letting the rest of the world do it for them.

OOC: Wrong on all counts. ICBMs are unregulated and chemical weapons are legal. If you honestly believe that being beholden to a higher ruleset mitigates the ability to protract an effective strategic military campaign, you need only look to the real world to see how wrong you are.

But, hey, its easier to come into a forum and talk a lot of ignorant, loud crap when you don't know a damn thing about it, isn't it? I suppose we won't judge you too hard. After all, reading is just so hard for some people.

OOC ignorance and IC ignorance are different baby don't hurt me

Is apparently also bucked out a window or something I guess.

[Separatist Peoples]

OOC ignorance and IC ignorance are different baby don't hurt me

Is apparently also bucked out a window or something I guess.

OOC: Then I take it all back. A lot of players come in and start with that line but don't get the difference between IC and OOC. You clearly do, and that rant works perfectly well with a WH40K theme. Sorry!

[Liagolas]

OOC: Likewise. Though I am confused as to why the Razgriskm delegate even came to the World Assembly debate in the first place...

[Separatist Peoples]

OOC: Likewise. Though I am confused as to why the Razgriskm delegate even came to the World Assembly debate in the first place...

OOC: People use non-WA puppets all the time. Its pretty common, but some of us *looks exceedingly guilty* are a little sensitive.

[Wallenburg]

OOC ignorance and IC ignorance are different baby don't hurt me

Is apparently also bucked out a window or something I guess.

OOC: Oh. Sorry about that. We get a lot of people who hate the WA's powers and some who even go so far as to call for it to be removed from the game.

[Razgriskm]

OOC: Likewise. Though I am confused as to why the Razgriskm delegate even came to the World Assembly debate in the first place...

OOC: People use non-WA puppets all the time. Its pretty common, but some of us *looks exceedingly guilty* are a little sensitive.

OOC: I've actually been here for about three days for peace talks being held by a security council member. You know, WA trying to get up in my biz when I start committing genocide, party poopers. So he happens to be in the building.

[Tinfect]

It's glaringly obvious the world assembly IS a tyrannical body, condemning and sieging anything with any ambition.

"The World Assembly has neither the authority to condemn, or besiege."

The Stahl family pulled from the cutsie little alliance of stray cats with no idea what real suffering is the second they took the seat of power. I can make it clear your /Imperium/ has not felt hardship and terror like we have. Being foraged in the fires of annihilation brought Razgriskm her best asset. Her Strength and unbending will, you'd find no better soldiers to fight in any tight urban environment then right here.

"The Imperium, certainly, rose from the ashes of a world that tore itself apart, leaving large swathes of fertile countryside barren and worthless, in which billions perished. Ours was a system born of necessity and fire. It has built Colonies from empty worlds, weathered conflicts that spanned the stars, seen worlds burn, and burned worlds in turn. I will admit, I have not seen hardship. I have lived in the core of the Imperium, long after the Imperium chose to isolate itself from all others. My forebears have. They have tread the surface of worlds actively hostile to any remotely human being. They have fought in the streets of the Imperium against forces far more advanced than we had ever before seen, they have brought war to the holds of our enemies, and destroyed all that stood in their wake. Your Nation's history spans but a single world, perhaps several million lives. The Imperium spans light-years, billions of lives, conflicts the scale of which would be unimaginable to a lesser Nation."

OOC:
For the record, the Imperium of Tinfect, doesn't actually have anything to do with Warhammer 40K. I was running it before I was a fan of WH40K, believe it or not.

[New Leppikania]

It's glaringly obvious the world assembly IS a tyrannical body, condemning and sieging anything with any ambition.

"The World Assembly has neither the authority to condemn, or besiege."

"The General Assembly, perhaps not, but the Security Council can condemn."

[Tinfect]

"The World Assembly has neither the authority to condemn, or besiege."

"The General Assembly, perhaps not, but the Security Council can condemn."

"Ambassador, I assure you, there is no security council."

OOC:
If I remember correct, due to the fact that the SC is overtaken by the R&D Circlejerk, and legislates almost entirely on the Metagame, it isn't really recognized ICly.

[Liagolas]

The Federation really does not see this as a major international problem. Sure it is an international issue, but is seeking to solve a problem that rarely exists in the first place.

"While it is the wisdom of the Dominion to understand how you do not feel it important to legislate on matters that have not impacted your nation, Mr. Turner, it is the view of the Dominion that the possibility of booby-trapped aid remains a threat," the Mouth says. "It is a conceivable tactic, and the Dominion wishes to take preventative measures before any damage can be done to any member of this Assembly. This resolution is straightforward and effective. Therefore, we remain in full and resolute support."

[Araraukar]

OOC: Likewise. Though I am confused as to why the Razgriskm delegate even came to the World Assembly debate in the first place...

OOC: People use non-WA puppets all the time. Its pretty common, but some of us *looks exceedingly guilty* are a little sensitive.

OOC: And some of us have main nations they don't want to burden with all those resolutions, and instead use WA puppets...

"Ambassador, I assure you, there is no security council."

OOC: If I remember correct, due to the fact that the SC is overtaken by the R&D Circlejerk, and legislates almost entirely on the Metagame, it isn't really recognized ICly.

OOC: The majority of GAers ignore its existence, and mentioning it on this forum pretty much counts as OOC comment or metagaming. Any mentions of it make me want to have my ambassador defenestrate the ambassador who brought it up.

EDIT: @IA below: Don't tempt me! We haven't had a proper defenestration in ages!

[Imperium Anglorum]

"Ambassador, I assure you, there is no security council."

OOC: If I remember correct, due to the fact that the SC is overtaken by the R&D Circlejerk, and legislates almost entirely on the Metagame, it isn't really recognized ICly.

OOC: The majority of GAers ignore its existence, and mentioning it on this forum pretty much counts as OOC comment or metagaming. Any mentions of it make me want to have my ambassador defenestrate the ambassador who brought it up.

Parsons brings in a quacking duck which only says 'Se-QUEUE-rit-ee Koun-sil' over and over again. He looks up, frowns, and walks the duck back out of the room.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Parsons: We are less than a week short from a month of drafting out here. I would like to submit this tomorrow, if there are no reasoned objections to that course of action.

Parsons: (no longer holding a leash) It's all fine, Laveret. I got rid of the duck and replaced it with this grey tabbycat in my lap.

[Liagolas]

"The Dominion sees no reason to object to this," the Mouth says.

[Araraukar]

Parsons: We are less than a week short from a month of drafting out here. I would like to submit this tomorrow, if there are no reasoned objections to that course of action.

Parsons: (no longer holding a leash) It's all fine, Laveret. I got rid of the duck and replaced it with this grey tabbycat in my lap.

OOC: Make it "booby-trapped" and it'll look a tiny bit less stupid as a title.

IC: "Leveret, not Laveret," Janis said with a glare. "Don't make me fetch a glass of cream."

[Imperium Anglorum]

Okay. This is it. I'll submit it very soon now, and given forewarning... it isn't actually all that soon.

It is done!