Yep. Its almost exquisite.
I don't use that word in vain either.
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by Ragnarum » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:03 pm
by Vashtanaraada » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:04 pm
by Hurdegaryp » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:05 pm
Vashtanaraada wrote:Theocracy isn't necessarily right-wing in theory.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.
by Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:05 pm
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Diopolis » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:05 pm
Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:Diopolis wrote:Hillary is at least as bought out as any republican, and considerably more bought out than some.
Because clearly candidates who support anything that benefits corporations aren't bought and candidates who support things that Hold corporations accountable are bought.
Reasoning and Logic are the things conservatives lack.
by Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:07 pm
Diopolis wrote:Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:Because clearly candidates who support anything that benefits corporations aren't bought and candidates who support things that Hold corporations accountable are bought.
Reasoning and Logic are the things conservatives lack.
Oh please. The only candidate that can remotely be said to want to hold corporations accountable is Bernie.
by Arlenton » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:07 pm
Diopolis wrote:Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:Because clearly candidates who support anything that benefits corporations aren't bought and candidates who support things that Hold corporations accountable are bought.
Reasoning and Logic are the things conservatives lack.
Oh please. The only candidate that can remotely be said to want to hold corporations accountable is Bernie.
by Jochistan » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:08 pm
Val Halla wrote:"Traditional values"
Oh boy, I love this reason for justification of bullshit practices like homophobia and sexism
by Internet Freedom Republic » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:08 pm
Holy Jakelandion Empire wrote:Kraylandia wrote:
So what's your opinion then, take it you're against both too?
Yes, Obama lit the White House immediately after same-sex marriage was legalized with rainbow colors, but when there was a mass shooting of marines and a sailor by Muslims, he didn't light the White House Red, white, and blue. It's ridiculous and I hate it when people think they are 'cute'. Bruce Jenner is still a man, just with parts removed and some sewn on.
by Val Halla » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:10 pm
Jochistan wrote:Val Halla wrote:"Traditional values"
Oh boy, I love this reason for justification of bullshit practices like homophobia and sexism
Traditional values are important to be upheld for the preservation of the culture at hand, I agree that harmful ones should be abandoned, but traditional morality is very important to be held to a certain extent.
I agree, the anti Homosexual and sexist notions are harmful (to traditional values as well as modern ones).
by Internet Freedom Republic » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:11 pm
by Agritum » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:12 pm
by Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:12 pm
Jochistan wrote:Val Halla wrote:"Traditional values"
Oh boy, I love this reason for justification of bullshit practices like homophobia and sexism
Traditional values are important to be upheld for the preservation of the culture at hand, I agree that harmful ones should be abandoned, but traditional morality is very important to be held to a certain extent.
I agree, the anti Homosexual and sexist notions are harmful (to traditional values as well as modern ones).
by Jumalariik » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:14 pm
by Old Tyrannia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:17 pm
Agritum wrote:Kinda saddened to see how most of the right wing here devolved from cheeky, well-spoken capitalists and elegant tweed-jacketed distributist monarchists into the banal, /pol/ack form of near-fascist that we're too much accustomed with nowadays.
Signed, a nostalgic leftie.
Jumalariik wrote:I don't know if I'm actually right wing or not. In terms of economic policy, I am a socialist, far left. In terms of national issues/social opinions, I am hard right, but not far right. All people deserve rights, but diversity of peoples is a good thing and separate nations is good.
by Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:19 pm
by Jumalariik » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:19 pm
Old Tyrannia wrote:Agritum wrote:Kinda saddened to see how most of the right wing here devolved from cheeky, well-spoken capitalists and elegant tweed-jacketed distributist monarchists into the banal, /pol/ack form of near-fascist that we're too much accustomed with nowadays.
Signed, a nostalgic leftie.
The tweed lives on.Jumalariik wrote:I don't know if I'm actually right wing or not. In terms of economic policy, I am a socialist, far left. In terms of national issues/social opinions, I am hard right, but not far right. All people deserve rights, but diversity of peoples is a good thing and separate nations is good.
Do you believe in egalitarianism or do you accept and support the hierarchical organisation of society?
by Lyras » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:19 pm
Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:Jochistan wrote:Traditional values are important to be upheld for the preservation of the culture at hand, I agree that harmful ones should be abandoned, but traditional morality is very important to be held to a certain extent.
I agree, the anti Homosexual and sexist notions are harmful (to traditional values as well as modern ones).
Slavery and forced conversion were both once cherished traditional values,traditional values is code name for discriminatory practices.
Mokastana: Then Lyras happened.
Allanea: Wanting to avoid fighting Lyras' fuck-huge military is also a reasonable IC consideration
TPF: Who is stupid enough to attack a Lyran convoy?
Sumer: Honestly, I'd rather face Doom's military with Doom having a 3-1 advantage over me, than take a 1-1 fight with a well-supplied Lyran tank unit.
Kinsgard: RL Lyras is like a real life video game character.
Ieperithem: Eighty four. Eighty four percent of their terrifyingly massive GDP goes directly into their military. And they actually know how to manage it. It's safe to say there isn't a single nation that could feasibly stand against them if they wanted it to die.
Yikes. Just... Yikes.
by Agritum » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:20 pm
Old Tyrannia wrote:Agritum wrote:Kinda saddened to see how most of the right wing here devolved from cheeky, well-spoken capitalists and elegant tweed-jacketed distributist monarchists into the banal, /pol/ack form of near-fascist that we're too much accustomed with nowadays.
Signed, a nostalgic leftie.
The tweed lives on.Jumalariik wrote:I don't know if I'm actually right wing or not. In terms of economic policy, I am a socialist, far left. In terms of national issues/social opinions, I am hard right, but not far right. All people deserve rights, but diversity of peoples is a good thing and separate nations is good.
Do you believe in egalitarianism or do you accept and support the hierarchical organisation of society?
by Old Tyrannia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:20 pm
Jumalariik wrote:Old Tyrannia wrote:The tweed lives on.
Do you believe in egalitarianism or do you accept and support the hierarchical organisation of society?
Well, I support a society where all people are equal under the law and have equal opportunity within a nation-state that they belong to. This would have economics that support producers and opposes laziness, but again, gives opportunity to all people. The formation of elites would be fundamentally opposed because it is not keeping with a unified nation.
So I sort of believe in both.
by Ragnarum » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:20 pm
Lyras wrote:Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:Slavery and forced conversion were both once cherished traditional values,traditional values is code name for discriminatory practices.
Now THIS is highly disingenuous.
Traditional values acknowledged that, oddly enough, men and women are not the same, and that this is an aspect of reality. Traditional values (in the west) enshrined the rights of humanity. Traditional values prevented Aztecs from killing 50,000 people to pay homage to their god. Traditional values provided the foundational societal structures that enabled western societies to express so many of the freedoms that some folks seem perpetually inclined to take for granted.
Are they flawless? Of course not. Subject to review? Certainly. But 'oh my feelings, you offend me' is rarely a good rationale for anything, and yet that principle forms law in some parts of the west.
by Jumalariik » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:21 pm
Old Tyrannia wrote:Jumalariik wrote:Well, I support a society where all people are equal under the law and have equal opportunity within a nation-state that they belong to. This would have economics that support producers and opposes laziness, but again, gives opportunity to all people. The formation of elites would be fundamentally opposed because it is not keeping with a unified nation.
So I sort of believe in both.
You sound like a Left-winger to me.
by Jumalariik » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:22 pm
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