Regional Officers

[HMS Unicorn]

That's also how I interpreted Guy's post, with respect to "repeating the WA Delegate".

[Ravania Ultra]

I know I'm repeating myself, but I can't stop thinking about this.

What is the reasoning behind the fact that an RO keeps his powers in a region when he's not there at update-time?

After all a delegate loses everything when he's not around at update. That was the case but now he can appoint himself as vice-delegate and keep most of his powers like forever...

This is:

1) favoring imperialism in such a manner it feels wrong to me.
2) making tag-raiding to lucrative.
3) could put defenders that are often on at update in a position that gives them to much power.

I'd like to find some kind of consensus on this, cause really I don't want either of the 3. And I don't think native communities that want to use the RO's fully would be harmed by it, even if one of their RO's accidentally is not in the region at update, his powers can be easily restored by the founder or the executive delegate.

After all just like a regional delegate should be IN the region, regional officers should certainly be!

[Herrebrugh]

I know I'm repeating myself, but I can't stop thinking about this.

What is the reasoning behind the fact that an RO keeps his powers in a region when he's not there at update-time?

After all a delegate loses everything when he's not around at update. That was the case but now he can appoint himself as vice-delegate and keep most of his powers like forever...

This is:

1) favoring imperialism in such a manner it feels wrong to me.
2) making tag-raiding to lucrative.
3) could put defenders that are often on at update in a position that gives them to much power.

I'd like to find some kind of consensus on this, cause really I don't want either of the 3. And I don't think native communities that want to use the RO's fully would be harmed by it, even if one of their RO's accidentally is not in the region at update, his powers can be easily restored by the founder or the executive delegate.

After all just like a regional delegate should be IN the region, regional officers should certainly be!

Noooo! I finally have a way to keep my empire in line

[Topid]

One idea I also had is that a lot of regional governments have big positions that don't really justify giving them powers in game. Like commander of the military or Chief Justice of some court? Since there is a limit per region anyway would it hurt to be able to give people RO positions without any power (since all their power is offsite)? Could also be used as an award (RO position for winning a flag contest, or a quiz, or something else regions randomly do).

Another problem I'd like to bring up is that as an RO you can't resign. It seems like an odd situation but I'm sure there will be someone coming on this forum grumpy that they were given responsibility over accepting embassies in their region and they just wanna RP.

[The Blaatschapen]

Another problem I'd like to bring up is that as an RO you can't resign. It seems like an odd situation but I'm sure there will be someone coming on this forum grumpy that they were given responsibility over accepting embassies in their region and they just wanna RP.

Oooh, good one. I support this. If only to stop "out of spite" ROs becoming a thing.

[Topid]

Another problem I'd like to bring up is that as an RO you can't resign. It seems like an odd situation but I'm sure there will be someone coming on this forum grumpy that they were given responsibility over accepting embassies in their region and they just wanna RP.

Oooh, good one. I support this. If only to stop "out of spite" ROs becoming a thing.

Yeah I thought of that too, like someone making Kenny puppets "king of poop" or something. But I figure the mods could deal with that so it wasn't a good reason to suggest a change. XD

[The Blaatschapen]

Oooh, good one. I support this. If only to stop "out of spite" ROs becoming a thing.

Yeah I thought of that too, like someone making Kenny puppets "king of poop" or something. But I figure the mods could deal with that so it wasn't a good reason to suggest a change. XD

Eh, we can deal with "king of poop" {fairly mild, not sure if I'd want to rule on that, unless clearly malicious} or "nigger exterminator" {that will get you thwacked firmly}. It gets trickier when a schoolkids region has drama and just before one region member leaves in huff, gets an RO role with a non-rulebreaking title like "Out of Spite Officer". Them resigning it themselves would be the easiest option and saves us a headache If you don't like it, leave it is a good way to deal with it IMO.

[Bounty Bertie]

What is the reasoning behind the fact that an RO keeps his powers in a region when he's not there at update-time?

The 'reasoning' is presumably the same 'reasoning' that gave us free and instant approval/dismissal, that is lowest barrier of entry/use.

After all a delegate loses everything when he's not around at update. That was the case but now he can appoint himself as vice-delegate and keep most of his powers like forever...

This is:

1) favoring imperialism in such a manner it feels wrong to me.
2) making tag-raiding to lucrative.
3) could put defenders that are often on at update in a position that gives them to much power.

I'd like to find some kind of consensus on this, cause really I don't want either of the 3. And I don't think native communities that want to use the RO's fully would be harmed by it, even if one of their RO's accidentally is not in the region at update, his powers can be easily restored by the founder or the executive delegate.

After all just like a regional delegate should be IN the region, regional officers should certainly be!

Fully agreed. It is nonsensical for a "Regional Officer" to have regional powers in a region that they aren't even in! It is easy enough to create a puppet, and WA status is still not required to be an RO, so that will cause no issues. Really, the only people who benefit from this as is are R/Ders, as most other people have 1 'home' where they spend 99% of their time (although where they consider 'home' may change).

Pretty much the only reason you would need this is to gain RO powers in as many regions as possible, and if you're genuinely interested in helping a region (ie. using those powers) then you are probably only that active in 1-2 regions (and 1 puppet is easy to maintain - if you don't already have a nation in that other region).

The solution is simple, have ROs lose their power, immediately, if they aren't in the region at update.

[1302]

Question: When I as founder give my non-executive delegate extra powers (appearance f.i.) is that change kept when a new nation becomes delegate?

[Elke and Elba]

Is it possible for [v] to code in something to allow the thing to collapse - and is it possible to make that the default option?

[Topid]

Is it possible for [v] to code in something to allow the thing to collapse - and is it possible to make that the default option?

If you mean the thing on the region page- please not default. I would rather everyone see who my President is on my region page than my WA Delegate.

[Elke and Elba]

Is it possible for [v] to code in something to allow the thing to collapse - and is it possible to make that the default option?

If you mean the thing on the region page- please not default. I would rather everyone see who my President is on my region page than my WA Delegate.

Hmm, I'm thinking of another way - not default but -

You know how there are two types of powers in appearances - ie player-set (No unsolicited TGs, no forum SIG appearing) vs region-set (allow Execs to set regional embassy posting privileges).

Instead of suggesting the former - I think it would be better if the latter could be implemented - while Topid would certainly want people to see who is the President and stuff, appearance wise Yggdrasil isn't keen on it because our region isn't as focused on regional positions more so than despatches and would rather hide it.

Could that be possible to let Executives decide if they want the names of the RO collapsed or shown in full?

[Punk Daddy]

Posting this here for posterity, but people are concerned about ROs and giving people not the delegate too much power.

But with ROs rogue delegates in founderless regions can form a near virtual lockdown on the region. If there isn't a major coup of one of the feeders within six months of implementation I'd be shocked. Think of it from the couper's perspective. Now you don't have to have Durk up at all hours of the night watching over your region. Instead you have can your crew from all of the world watching the RMB, banjecting nations, and doing what one person simply cannot do.

I'm a little excited to see it play out, but definitely scared to see if happen in the feeders where I live.

[Pierconium]

Posting this here for posterity, but people are concerned about ROs and giving people not the delegate too much power.

But with ROs rogue delegates in founderless regions can form a near virtual lockdown on the region. If there isn't a major coup of one of the feeders within six months of implementation I'd be shocked. Think of it from the couper's perspective. Now you don't have to have Durk up at all hours of the night watching over your region. Instead you have can your crew from all of the world watching the RMB, banjecting nations, and doing what one person simply cannot do.

I'm a little excited to see it play out, but definitely scared to see if happen in the feeders where I live.

Not to get too much into GP here but if a GCR has not planned for this sort of eventuality in regards to the structure of how they maintain their Influence construct then that is to their folly.

[Val Halla]

Which is the thing that lets you supress posts?

[The Blaatschapen]

Which is the thing that lets you supress posts?

Border Control currently.

[Val Halla]

Which is the thing that lets you supress posts?

Border Control currently.

Alright, thanks Blaat

[New Chilokver]

Must ROs be shown like they are now? It would really be better if we could choose whether we want them centered or just a left-aligned list.

[Kaboomlandia]

Here's a question:
If I move into my own created region, name myself the VWAD, and go back to Europeia, will I start getting 130-vote clout in the WA votes?

[The Blaatschapen]

Here's a question:
If I move into my own created region, name myself the VWAD, and go back to Europeia, will I start getting 130-vote clout in the WA votes?

Try it.

It's a beta test, see what happens

[Trotterdam]

I though delegate-equivalent WA powers were one of the two things, besides executive powers, that you couldn't give to a regional officer?

So even if you named your officer position "Vice-Delegate", it wouldn't make you one, any more than naming your officer position "Game Moderator" would let you delete nations.

[Cerillium]

My sincerest gratitude to [v] and her team for their outstanding work (and countless hours invested into coding).

The Apartment Block would dearly love to have this feature active.


This may have been answered here but I couldn't find reference to it: if a nation goes DEAT or simply belly up due to inactivity, will the appointment die with them or will we need to manually remove that title?

[The Blaatschapen]

My sincerest gratitude to [v] and her team for their outstanding work (and countless hours invested into coding).

The Apartment Block would dearly love to have this feature active.


This may have been answered here but I couldn't find reference to it: if a nation goes DEAT or simply belly up due to inactivity, will the appointment die with them or will we need to manually remove that title?

Wrong topic, but done.

The appointment stayed with the ex-nation afaik. I can test it on you, if you want

[Discutor]

The problem with R/D is not the update order or any technical detail.

It's the lack of players willing to put in the time to organize a major raid. When's the last time anyone besides DEN did a big raid? Where is Albion? The LKE? TBH? Ainur? Ile de France? The raids that the feeders/sinkers used to do? The New Inquisition now bills itself as a roleplay-only region. Everyone's just sitting in their regions and not getting together to organize something like before.

All the resources are there. If you want something to happen - you need to pull your WAs together and make it happen, not sit around waiting for [violet] to preform a miracle to "make the game fun again".

[Cerillium]

Wrong topic, but done.

The appointment stayed with the ex-nation afaik. I can test it on you, if you want

Oops. Haven't had my coffee yet. Apologies.

Best practical joke to play on Swith! But no, I'd prefer not to be the guinea pig.