NS Rugby Discussion Thread (v.2)

[NS Rugby Board Executive Council]

I would also like to thank Polar Islandstates for running another successful Seasogs, with a little help from Semarland on the final scoring. The new formatting and guidelines should work out well and anything to make your job easier to continue to run the series should be our priority. Congrats to RK Graz-Noord of Austroslovakia!

That being said, it's time to open up the floor for nominations for the NSRB President (League VP) and Vice President (Union VP). If there's enough interest, possibly the Second VP (Sevens VP). Should anyone be available for a nomination, that would be helpful to know, also.
The election will be held after the host is chosen for the RUWC 24.

[Kaboomlandia]

Wait, when did I become an NSRB member? I've only been in the one RUWC.

[NS Rugby Board Executive Council]

Because deez:

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NS Rugby Board Governing Document

The NS Rugby Board (hereafter NSRB) governs the World Cups of rugby union, rugby league, and rugby sevens in NS Sports.

Membership of the NSRB and of its Union Section, League Section, or Sevens Section is granted to all nations that posted a roster in the last completed Rugby World Cup (RWC), Rugby League World Cup (RLWC), or Rugby Sevens World Cup (R7WC) respectively. (The Rugby Sevens Series International is treated as the first R7WC.) A single player controlling two or more NSRB member nations may only vote through one of them on any given question.

[Frenline Delpha]

Because deez:

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NS Rugby Board Governing Document

The NS Rugby Board (hereafter NSRB) governs the World Cups of rugby union, rugby league, and rugby sevens in NS Sports.

Membership of the NSRB and of its Union Section, League Section, or Sevens Section is granted to all nations that posted a roster in the last completed Rugby World Cup (RWC), Rugby League World Cup (RLWC), or Rugby Sevens World Cup (R7WC) respectively. (The Rugby Sevens Series International is treated as the first R7WC.) A single player controlling two or more NSRB member nations may only vote through one of them on any given question.

Dang. That's some pretty easy standards. Not that I will be complaining about it.

[Neu Engollon]

Because deez:

Dang. That's some pretty easy standards. Not that I will be complaining about it.

Didn't write those rules, but there they are. Probably because if membership wasn't that easy, we would barely have a pool for voting at all. This ain't NS football, folks. It should also be noted that there is no longer a R7WC, but if someone posts a roster for Londinium 7s, AVBF 7s, or any other NSRB sanctioned 7s tournament in the circuit, they would be a member of the Sevens section of the NSRB.

[Saintland]

RUWC Rankings

[Kaboomlandia]

38th. Not bad for one Round of 24 performance.

[Frenline Delpha]

I was wondering if I would be allowed to host a Rugby 7s tournament sanctioned by the NSRB?

[Gregoryisgodistan]

I was wondering if I would be allowed to host a Rugby 7s tournament sanctioned by the NSRB?

If you bid for it next time it happens, and you win, then yes. Just like everyone else.

[Frenline Delpha]

I was wondering if I would be allowed to host a Rugby 7s tournament sanctioned by the NSRB?

If you bid for it next time it happens, and you win, then yes. Just like everyone else.

So that's how it works. Thanks for the quick response, Greg.

[Neu Engollon]

If you bid for it next time it happens, and you win, then yes. Just like everyone else.

So that's how it works. Thanks for the quick response, Greg.

Actually, no. Not entirely accurate. It's not a WC. We didn't have an official cycle in place. We were taking volunteers from the NSRB veteran pool who would host some in a series. So far, the next NSRB 7's tournament after the AVBF is scheduled in Port Louis, Racao, I believe; which will probably happen after the RUWC. After that, Wray has volunteered to host one more, then we were going to cycle round again to the Londinium 7's, but there wasn't a solid cap at 4 tourneys. Also, if say for instance, Wray is unable or no longer interested in doing a NSRB 7's tourney, we certainly could use a backup.

My suggestion is this, if you have never hosted a NS sports tournament before, maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to put together a host bid and post it here. The whole IC/OOC package. Be prepared to answer questions as to how you will host and score to reassure folks that you understand the process and responsibility. Then we would have to decide if we want to extend the cycle to 5 tourneys a RL year or not, or perhaps someone else might drop out due to other responsibilities, etc.

[Uitbregen]

So that's how it works. Thanks for the quick response, Greg.

Actually, no. Not entirely accurate. It's not a WC. We didn't have an official cycle in place. We were taking volunteers from the NSRB veteran pool who would host some in a series. So far, the next NSRB 7's tournament after the AVBF is scheduled in Port Louis, Racao, I believe; which will probably happen after the RUWC. After that, Wray has volunteered to host one more, then we were going to cycle round again to the Londinium 7's, but there wasn't a solid cap at 4 tourneys. Also, if say for instance, Wray is unable or no longer interested in doing a NSRB 7's tourney, we certainly could use a backup.

My suggestion is this, if you have never hosted a NS sports tournament before, maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to put together a host bid and post it here. The whole IC/OOC package. Be prepared to answer questions as to how you will host and score to reassure folks that you understand the process and responsibility. Then we would have to decide if we want to extend the cycle to 5 tourneys a RL year or not, or perhaps someone else might drop out due to other responsibilities, etc.

Wray's puppetmaster here

As much as I'd like to undertake the hosting of a Sevens Competition with Wray, I don't think I'll have the time to do so in the foreseeable future (work and stuff), so you might want to find another host for the potential competition. Sorry if that's caused any potential spanners-in-works.

[Frenline Delpha]

Actually, no. Not entirely accurate. It's not a WC. We didn't have an official cycle in place. We were taking volunteers from the NSRB veteran pool who would host some in a series. So far, the next NSRB 7's tournament after the AVBF is scheduled in Port Louis, Racao, I believe; which will probably happen after the RUWC. After that, Wray has volunteered to host one more, then we were going to cycle round again to the Londinium 7's, but there wasn't a solid cap at 4 tourneys. Also, if say for instance, Wray is unable or no longer interested in doing a NSRB 7's tourney, we certainly could use a backup.

My suggestion is this, if you have never hosted a NS sports tournament before, maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to put together a host bid and post it here. The whole IC/OOC package. Be prepared to answer questions as to how you will host and score to reassure folks that you understand the process and responsibility. Then we would have to decide if we want to extend the cycle to 5 tourneys a RL year or not, or perhaps someone else might drop out due to other responsibilities, etc.

Wray's puppetmaster here

As much as I'd like to undertake the hosting of a Sevens Competition with Wray, I don't think I'll have the time to do so in the foreseeable future (work and stuff), so you might want to find another host for the potential competition. Sorry if that's caused any potential spanners-in-works.

I have a host bid in the works.

[Neu Engollon]

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Wray's puppetmaster here

As much as I'd like to undertake the hosting of a Sevens Competition with Wray, I don't think I'll have the time to do so in the foreseeable future (work and stuff), so you might want to find another host for the potential competition. Sorry if that's caused any potential spanners-in-works.

That's why I used you as an example. I kind of got the impression at the time that you felt guilted into it because no one else was stepping forward and we were trying to get four hosts.

[Frenline Delpha]

Host Bid for Frenline Delpha
Presenting the: Freedom 7's Tourney

IC Information

Frenline Delpha is a democratic nation that celebrates heavy freedoms and a small wealth gap. The economy of Frenline Delpha is heavily industrialized but incredibly efficient. The tax rate is high, but the cost of living is low. All religions are accepted and you can find at least 20 different religions in whatever city you are in. Many cultures are represented in Frenlinian cuisine. If it exists in the multiverse, you can probably find it here. We plenty of travel options throughout the city, from taxis to travel busses for teams, to busses for tourists. We also have rental cars. Take a stop at one of the several scenic relics from acient bloodbenders in the capital. There are even decorative fire hydrants, painted by local youth expressive artists. Most of our available hotels are at least 3 stars, and they come quite cheap. Plus, our currency is valued at .62 theories ({) for 1 NSD. If you are low on money, we also have high quality motels that offer free breakfast and wi-fi.

Group Draw

The group draw will be sorted using the appropriate number of pots. After nations have been divided by pots, a group draw will be played out on a Chatzy that I will create.

Format

16 teams: 4 groups of 4; single round robin; Group winners advance to a single elimination tournament for the Snaker Cup; the next 4 best teams advance to play for the Democratic Plaque

20 teams: 4 groups of 5; same format as the 16 teams

24 teams: 6 groups of 4; single round robin; group winners plus next two best teams advance to play for the Snaker Cup; next best four teams advance to play for the Democratic Plaque

Stadiums

Location: Nagais, Frenline Delpha
Capacity: 21,000

This stadium was built originally as the site meant to host collegiate rugby championships. It was recently modified to fit international standards. The three poles at the back have a name of one of the three original champions enscribed on them.

Location: Bloodbenderopolis, Frenline Delpha
Capacity: 29,000

This stadium is the largest in Frenline Delpha. It hosts several collegiate games, and it serves as the home stadium for the travel adult team, Club Bad Bruiser.

Location: Crystal Ice, Frenline Delpha
Capacity: 23,500

This field serves as both a football field and a rugby field. It takes crews an average of 6 hours to convert between the two. It plays home to the collegiate team, Arten Southern University Equestrian. It is reknowned for its fantastic blue field.

Location: Green Hills, Frenline Delpha
Capacity: 16,840

Another convertable field, this one has lines for rugby, soccer, and football. It plays host to the University of Nightspeak Ninjas.

Tiebreakers

Tiebreakers will be (in order): 1. Head-to-head result between the tied teams.
2. Difference in points scored and allowed during pool play.
3. Points scored during pool play.
4. Coin toss (higher RP points).

Scorinating Experience

Frenline Delpha Baseball League
Frenline Delpha Domestic Water Polo League
Various Soccer Friendlies
NSCF 12 Mineral Conference
IBS X (w/ Schiltzberg and San Llera)

Scorination

The scorinating will be done on version 0.3.3 of Xkoronate, using the Rugby Union Sevens format. There will be a Roster bonus worth 5 points, and all participants have the ability to earn two days worth of RP bonus before the first match-day, including the Roster bonus. The RP grading will be five points, with quality being taking into account well before quantity. RPs will be cumulative, and RP bonus will reset to the beginning rank plus roster bonus after the group stage. If you commit a violation of your opponent's RP, be it contradicting what they say or violating their RP permissions, then you will lose 20 RP points. Your RP bonus can't go below 0. If it does, the bonus will still be set at 0. However, it may take you a few days of RPing to get it back above zero.

[Kaboomlandia]

Wow. I got put with four unranked (one was the host, however). This is gonna be fun.

[Frenline Delpha]

What time is cutoff? I am working on a roster rigt now.

[Liventia]

Can I just say it's extremely weird to refer to the backs as the "defense" (sic) when wingers score a majority of tries. Also, squad numbers don't exist in rugby union. Starts wear 1-15 based on their position.

[Frenline Delpha]

Can I just say it's extremely weird to refer to the backs as the "defense" (sic) when wingers score a majority of tries. Also, squad numbers don't exist in rugby union. Starts wear 1-15 based on their position.

Noted. Will change that in a bit.

[Gim]

Where can you check the Game Days? I cannot find them on the Everything thread.

[Frenline Delpha]

Where can you check the Game Days? I cannot find them on the Everything thread.

Last post on page 1.

[Neu Engollon]

Where can you check the Game Days? I cannot find them on the Everything thread.

Matchday One

It's the Everything thread, so RP, scores and rosters are all mixed in. Basically, when you see posts by the host, Aels that list the groups and tables and numbers, that's going to be the match day posts you're looking for. Or do what Barunia's post below this says, if you want to to run the internal site search engine. You'll figure it out.

[Barunia]

Where can you check the Game Days? I cannot find them on the Everything thread.

Two simple ways to search the thread
1) Type in your nation name in the search box at the top left
2) Sort by author. At the bottom of the last post on a page, there is a box that says "display posts from previous" followed by a drop down menu, and a box that says "Sort by" and a drop down menu. Click on that second drop down menu, change the setting to author, and hit go. That will list all the posts in alphabetical order by author, making it easy to find all posts by a single author.

[Aels]

Open question (currently undecided):
How would people feel if I ran plate and shield competitions alongside the main World Cup knockout stages? These wouldn't count towards world rankings (or could, at a much lower level) but would give teams something more to RP if they've been knocked out.

The plan would be for teams eliminated in the round of 16 to take part in the plate tournament and for third-placed pool teams to be in the shield.

Suggestions and thoughts are welcome.

[Frenline Delpha]

Open question (currently undecided):
How would people feel if I ran plate and shield competitions alongside the main World Cup knockout stages? These wouldn't count towards world rankings (or could, at a much lower level) but would give teams something more to RP if they've been knocked out.

The plan would be for teams eliminated in the round of 16 to take part in the plate tournament and for third-placed pool teams to be in the shield.

Suggestions and thoughts are welcome.

I like the plate idea, but not the shield. I think giving a mini tournament for teams eliminated in the round-of-16 sounds fair. Maybe make it count for 1/8 of the current formula. By that, I mean that it uses the formula for the knockout, but mulitply it by 1/8