by The Land of Cheesecake » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:18 pm
by Golgothastan » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:34 am
by The Land of Cheesecake » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:57 am
by Golgothastan » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:20 am
by Trotterdam » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:13 am
by Golgothastan » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:15 am
by Sodastream » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:27 am
by Phydios » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:35 am
Sodastream wrote:if you dismiss a particular issue, then you won't get it again.
If you claim to be religious but don’t control your tongue, you are fooling yourself, and your religion is worthless. Pure and genuine religion in the sight of God the Father means caring for orphans and widows in their distress and refusing to let the world corrupt you. | Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’James 1:26-27, Matthew 7:21-23
by Nurkama » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:41 am
Sodastream wrote:if you dismiss a particular issue, then you won't get it again.... like for example, it's not really relevant to the current economy.
by Trotterdam » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:43 am
by Golgothastan » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:29 am
by Golgothastan » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:37 am
Trotterdam wrote:It also can't be received again if you don't dismiss it.
by Drachmaland » Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:42 am
Trotterdam wrote:Is it possible to get #000 again after you've already answered it once?
Golgothastan wrote:Yes, depending on how you answer it and other issues subsequently.
by Phydios » Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:57 am
Drachmaland wrote:Trotterdam wrote:Is it possible to get #000 again after you've already answered it once?Golgothastan wrote:Yes, depending on how you answer it and other issues subsequently.
Dear Golgothastan, I'd like to kindly ask for a confirmation on this statement of yours; it's not that I don't believe you (I do), but I just need positively affirmed information on the following questions:A zillion thanks in advance!
- Apart from the obvious validity of ‘just-foundedness’, is there any other validity (no need to mention it explicitly, of course) that would allow issue #000 to reappear to a nation?
- Has ever been a nation that received issue #000 more than once?
- In case issue #000 just appears once (i.e., along with the founding of the respective receiving nation), will it reappear if dismissed (or does it work like the chain issue)?
If you claim to be religious but don’t control your tongue, you are fooling yourself, and your religion is worthless. Pure and genuine religion in the sight of God the Father means caring for orphans and widows in their distress and refusing to let the world corrupt you. | Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’James 1:26-27, Matthew 7:21-23
by Drachmaland » Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:05 am
Phydios wrote:Drachmaland wrote:
Dear Golgothastan, I'd like to kindly ask for a confirmation on this statement of yours; it's not that I don't believe you (I do), but I just need positively affirmed information on the following questions:A zillion thanks in advance!
- Apart from the obvious validity of ‘just-foundedness’, is there any other validity (no need to mention it explicitly, of course) that would allow issue #000 to reappear to a nation?
- Has ever been a nation that received issue #000 more than once?
- In case issue #000 just appears once (i.e., along with the founding of the respective receiving nation), will it reappear if dismissed (or does it work like the chain issue)?
I can answer #2 for you- yes. I've received the issue at least twice on this nation alone. And since the answer is yes, that makes #3 irrelevant.
by Phydios » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:15 am
If you claim to be religious but don’t control your tongue, you are fooling yourself, and your religion is worthless. Pure and genuine religion in the sight of God the Father means caring for orphans and widows in their distress and refusing to let the world corrupt you. | Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’James 1:26-27, Matthew 7:21-23
by Ballotonia » Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:16 am
Phydios wrote:Glad I could help. As far as I know, there's nothing special about #000. It's coded just like any other issue.
by Drachmaland » Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:41 am
by Phydios » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:11 pm
Ballotonia wrote:Golgothastan wrote:That's correct.Phydios wrote:Glad I could help. As far as I know, there's nothing special about #000. It's coded just like any other issue.
Hadn't seen this before, but would like to point out that both statements above are wrong.
Issue 000 is special in that it is a fall-back option. If NS has problems finding a new valid issue (which admittedly has a very low but non-zero chance of happening) for a nation, it will eventually give up and give issue 000. This is how back when the chain issues were introduced some nations ended up in a loop of receiving issue 000 each update again and again. If that happens you know something is seriously wrong.
So even without considering bugs, it occasionally may happen that someone gets issue 000 without actually qualifying for it.
Ballotonia
If you claim to be religious but don’t control your tongue, you are fooling yourself, and your religion is worthless. Pure and genuine religion in the sight of God the Father means caring for orphans and widows in their distress and refusing to let the world corrupt you. | Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’James 1:26-27, Matthew 7:21-23
by British Accia » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:32 pm
Ballotonia wrote:Golgothastan wrote:That's correct.Phydios wrote:Glad I could help. As far as I know, there's nothing special about #000. It's coded just like any other issue.
Hadn't seen this before, but would like to point out that both statements above are wrong.
Issue 000 is special in that it is a fall-back option. If NS has problems finding a new valid issue (which admittedly has a very low but non-zero chance of happening) for a nation, it will eventually give up and give issue 000. This is how back when the chain issues were introduced some nations ended up in a loop of receiving issue 000 each update again and again. If that happens you know something is seriously wrong.
So even without considering bugs, it occasionally may happen that someone gets issue 000 without actually qualifying for it.
Ballotonia
by Drachmaland » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:39 pm
British Accia wrote:Wait, so, it's possible to make a nation which is unable to get more-a-less any issues? Obviously some have validity for 'everyone', but it's possible to get so few issues that it has to give you #000?
by British Accia » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:49 pm
Drachmaland wrote:British Accia wrote:Wait, so, it's possible to make a nation which is unable to get more-a-less any issues? Obviously some have validity for 'everyone', but it's possible to get so few issues that it has to give you #000?
Meseems utterly reasonable and prudent to have a redundancy provision in place, so that if the system cannot for any reason find an applicable issue to give a nation (and that's an almost obligatory safety backup against bugs) to have a specific, set rule to avoid having the whole update hanging.
by Trotterdam » Thu Sep 03, 2015 3:46 pm
Well, more accurately, there would need to be less than five issues that you currently qualify for. (Since that's the maximum folder size for randomly-assigned issues, and you can't have the same issue twice.) Which still seems pretty incredible. I would have thought there would be at least that many "validity: any" issues in the game, nevermind you'll-always-qualify-for-at-least-one-of-these-two dealies.British Accia wrote:I'm not questioning the backup plans in place for this, I'm simply amazed that a nation can simply not be valid for any issues.
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