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by Nationes Pii Redivivi » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:40 am
by Camelza » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:39 pm
by SD_Film Artists » Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:09 pm
North Calaveras wrote:Nothing, but for some reason a lot of people in the US love to say " oh im italian or irish or german"
no bitch...your American, just because your grandaddy is from (insert here) dosn't make you a part of that people, I have German and Italian ancestery but I would never say I have loyalty or some sense of commitment to these places.
by Camelza » Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:26 pm
SD_Film Artists wrote:Complaining over the use of the term 'American' is just being pedantic; yes there are other countries in the Americas but it's perfectly clear that if someone's "American" then they're from the United States. It's like if someone says- "I'm British.....not from the United Kingdom of course, I mean the Republic of Ireland which is part of the British Isles".North Calaveras wrote:Nothing, but for some reason a lot of people in the US love to say " oh im italian or irish or german"
no bitch...your American, just because your grandaddy is from (insert here) dosn't make you a part of that people, I have German and Italian ancestery but I would never say I have loyalty or some sense of commitment to these places.
3rd generation ancestry is pretty strong compared to the homeopathic dilutions which "American Scotch-Irish" normally base their claims on.
by SD_Film Artists » Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:41 pm
Camelza wrote:SD_Film Artists wrote:Complaining over the use of the term 'American' is just being pedantic; yes there are other countries in the Americas but it's perfectly clear that if someone's "American" then they're from the United States. It's like if someone says- "I'm British.....not from the United Kingdom of course, I mean the Republic of Ireland which is part of the British Isles".
3rd generation ancestry is pretty strong compared to the homeopathic dilutions which "American Scotch-Irish" normally base their claims on.
I've once met online a guy from Massachusetts that could trace his ancestry to old English settlers and he still "felt a connection to the old country" ... I mean, what about the revolution? What the actual fuck?
Nevertheless, I won't judge - anyone can pursue to be part of any nationality he/she wants to be.
by The Two Jerseys » Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:33 pm
Camelza wrote:SD_Film Artists wrote:Complaining over the use of the term 'American' is just being pedantic; yes there are other countries in the Americas but it's perfectly clear that if someone's "American" then they're from the United States. It's like if someone says- "I'm British.....not from the United Kingdom of course, I mean the Republic of Ireland which is part of the British Isles".
3rd generation ancestry is pretty strong compared to the homeopathic dilutions which "American Scotch-Irish" normally base their claims on.
I've once met online a guy from Massachusetts that could trace his ancestry to old English settlers and he still "felt a connection to the old country" ... I mean, what about the revolution? What the actual fuck?
Nevertheless, I won't judge - anyone can pursue to be part of any nationality he/she wants to be.
by BK117B2 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:40 pm
The Two Jerseys wrote:Camelza wrote:I've once met online a guy from Massachusetts that could trace his ancestry to old English settlers and he still "felt a connection to the old country" ... I mean, what about the revolution? What the actual fuck?
Nevertheless, I won't judge - anyone can pursue to be part of any nationality he/she wants to be.
If you want a "connection to the old country", there's a place in Virginia called Tangier Island, it's so isolated that the locals still sound like they're from the West Country.
by Deuxtete » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:00 pm
SD_Film Artists wrote:Camelza wrote:I've once met online a guy from Massachusetts that could trace his ancestry to old English settlers and he still "felt a connection to the old country" ... I mean, what about the revolution? What the actual fuck?
Nevertheless, I won't judge - anyone can pursue to be part of any nationality he/she wants to be.
Yeah given America's history I can't blame them for wanting to find out more of their ethnic history, it just seems so arbitrary at times as Irish and German genes apparently weigh more than Swedish or English genes. but I digress...
by The Two Jerseys » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:09 pm
BK117B2 wrote:The Two Jerseys wrote:If you want a "connection to the old country", there's a place in Virginia called Tangier Island, it's so isolated that the locals still sound like they're from the West Country.
I think that is mostly played up for television and whatnot. I've been to Tangier Island, and nearly everyone there would fit right in elsewhere in Virginia or Maryland without anyone thinking they had an accent.
One funny thing about the island: since it is such a small place, the restaurants (such as they are) only open for a couple hours for each meal. Want to head out for brunch? Guess you're heading off island then, since they don't have anyplace serving brunch.
by Camelza » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:24 pm
The Two Jerseys wrote:Camelza wrote:I've once met online a guy from Massachusetts that could trace his ancestry to old English settlers and he still "felt a connection to the old country" ... I mean, what about the revolution? What the actual fuck?
Nevertheless, I won't judge - anyone can pursue to be part of any nationality he/she wants to be.
If you want a "connection to the old country", there's a place in Virginia called Tangier Island, it's so isolated that the locals still sound like they're from the West Country.
by Camelza » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:27 pm
Suicune wrote:Well the only problem is actually admitting you're American....
by Forsher » Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:13 pm
Deuxtete wrote:Fesconia wrote:
Unlike a lot of Americans who most likely would actually feel patriotic if they were referred to by their states' name like Californians, Texans or New Yorkers.
More exactly like Americans who would be offended if you called them all Texans even if they were from New York.
The is exactly why I don't use the term English anymore, because of rants about all Brits not being English.
Ashkera wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:You should call yourselves "USians".
...I get the feeling someone may have suggested this on NSG before and that it mightn't have gone over particularly well.
It's not going to happen. Not only is there no global consensus about this issue that Americans are set in their ways about (unlike, say, the metric system), but there's no real benefit to changing aside from not offending some latin american nationalists (unlike, say, the metric system), it's inconsistent (Mexico), and it sounds weird in English.
"American" is the correct term in English. Trying to force "USian" is basically insisting on an adoption of Spanish terminology for a predominantly English-speaking country.
by Imperializt Russia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:08 am
SD_Film Artists wrote:Camelza wrote:I've once met online a guy from Massachusetts that could trace his ancestry to old English settlers and he still "felt a connection to the old country" ... I mean, what about the revolution? What the actual fuck?
Nevertheless, I won't judge - anyone can pursue to be part of any nationality he/she wants to be.
Yeah given America's history I can't blame them for wanting to find out more of their ethnic history, it just seems so arbitrary at times as Irish and German genes apparently weigh more than Swedish or English genes. but I digress...
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Banana Nanica » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:47 am
by Imperializt Russia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:38 am
Banana Nanica wrote:I have been thinking more about this lately.
As I said in the first page, who call americans by that other stupid word (because it does sound stupid in Portuguese just like "unitedstatians" would sound in English) is always the left, because of their hatred for the US as the embodiment of capitalism, conservatism, imperialism and pretty much everything that is not nice in the world. They couldn't live without their american products, but that's another issue.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Confederate Ramenia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:31 pm
Lockdownn wrote:Free Market Paradise wrote:I was talking with some guy from colombia who went off on me when I said I was an American. He said something like everyone in the Americas is an American. I agreed but then said he wasn't asking what continent I came from but what country. Then I asked how many countries have America in their name. He didn't answer but went on about Americans being arrogant etc.
I thought I had a good point. People don't say they are from a continent. They say they are from a country. My country is America. Is there another country called America?
How many countries have America in their name? I know one.
Well how the hell else does he expect us to call ourselves? "United statesiens"?
The Flutterlands wrote:Because human life and dignity is something that should be universally valued above all things in society.
Benito Mussolini wrote:Everybody has the right to create for himself his own ideology and to attempt to enforce it with all the energy of which he is capable.
by BK117B2 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:33 pm
by Kvatchdom » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:35 pm
by Confederate Ramenia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:36 pm
Kvatchdom wrote:In Finnish we call you Yhdysvaltalainen, aka United Statesian.
The Flutterlands wrote:Because human life and dignity is something that should be universally valued above all things in society.
Benito Mussolini wrote:Everybody has the right to create for himself his own ideology and to attempt to enforce it with all the energy of which he is capable.
by Kvatchdom » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:38 pm
by Jamzmania » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:38 pm
Kvatchdom wrote:In Finnish we call you Yhdysvaltalainen, aka United Statesian.
The Alexanderians wrote:"Fear no man or woman,
No matter what their size.
Call upon me,
And I will equalize."
-Engraved on the side of my M1911 .45
by Wisconsin9 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:41 pm
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