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by Rio Cana » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:04 am
by Immoren » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:04 am
Deuxtete wrote:[quote="Alyakia";p="25827704"beyond the word of wiki
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there
by Wisconsin9 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:04 am
Deuxtete wrote:Mesrane wrote:-No, it's actually a helluva lot easier to say American than Unitedstatesian. Demonstrably so, even. The latter is a mouthful and sounds exceedingly stupid.
-There is no continent known as America, last I checked. America is shorthand for the United States of America, not for any continent. If you mean North or South America, fantastic. Seeing as how Americans don't refer to themselves as being from either, but from The United States of America I'm a little bit bewildered by how people can summon the butthurt to even make this an issue.
-No one ever says they are North American, lol.
-Pretty sure Saudis will say that they are Saudis.
-Other countries may refer to us however they wish. But don't please don't expect us to call ourselves something as ridiculous as "Unitedstatesians."
I'm north American, that's to distinguish me from south Americans.
Not really uncommon at all.
by Mesrane » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:05 am
by -Bailey Jay- » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:06 am
Mesrane wrote:-Bailey Jay- wrote:
Of course not. North America isn't a country. "America," however, is.
Naturally. The poster I originally responded to seemed to think people refer to themselves as North American aside from distinguishing themselves from South America, as if North America could be a country.
by Deuxtete » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:06 am
by Deuxtete » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:09 am
by Rio Cana » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:10 am
Mesrane wrote:-Bailey Jay- wrote:
Of course not. North America isn't a country. "America," however, is.
Naturally. The poster I originally responded to seemed to think people refer to themselves as North American aside from distinguishing themselves from South America, as if North America could be a country.
by Immoren » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:12 am
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there
by Deuxtete » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:14 am
Rio Cana wrote:It seems most of the nations of the Americas are named after a native group or word. This include 26 US States. The rest in the Americas have names of explorers or Independence leaders. A few have names which remind them of a place like Venezuela which means little Venice. It has to do with the natives living in homes with stilts on the water.
Brazil is named after a tree.
Thus, the US could have been named after a tree or cactus for example. the United States of Saguaro. Problem is there were no Saguaro cactus in the Eastern US. Or at the very least name the US after one of its founding leaders. Or the Atlantic ocean, "New Atlantis".
it seems they stuck with America since it was a neutral name. After all, chances are the early states had there own ideas on what the new nation should be called. So to avoid any possible rivalry they picked a neutral name all would agree too.
by Mesrane » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:18 am
-Bailey Jay- wrote:Mesrane wrote:Naturally. The poster I originally responded to seemed to think people refer to themselves as North American aside from distinguishing themselves from South America, as if North America could be a country.
Oh, k. Sorry. I thought you were in the "United Statesian" crowd.
Deuxtete wrote:Mesrane wrote:But when someone asks what country you are from, you're not going to say that you are North American.
Well no, North America isn't a country.
However when asked the more general question "where are you from" I do in fact reply North America, if I'm not in North America.
I don't assume non-english speakers will know my accent. Plus, its just natural.
I'm not going to say I'm going to Spain just because that's where the plane is landing... I'm going to Europe.
The most common question is of course "American?" So they know if they must speak English.
I'm not saying you're wrong precisely but people do in fact say "im north American".
by Deuxtete » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:23 am
Mesrane wrote:-Bailey Jay- wrote:
Oh, k. Sorry. I thought you were in the "United Statesian" crowd.
Oh gawd, no.Deuxtete wrote:Well no, North America isn't a country.
However when asked the more general question "where are you from" I do in fact reply North America, if I'm not in North America.
I don't assume non-english speakers will know my accent. Plus, its just natural.
I'm not going to say I'm going to Spain just because that's where the plane is landing... I'm going to Europe.
The most common question is of course "American?" So they know if they must speak English.
I'm not saying you're wrong precisely but people do in fact say "im north American".
I find that a bit silly, TBH. It's being over-general when a more specific answer would be more appropriate. You don't mention the country you are a citizen of when a foreigner asks you where you're from?
As for Spain, I would definitely say that I'm going to Spain if I'm going to Spain. Insisting that no, I'm going to Europe, is like saying that you went to X town when someone asks you what you did today. Well, what did you do in X town? Go to the mall? See a movie? That's probably not a great example of what I'm trying to say, but my point is that an insistence on refusing to identify a country you are traveling too when you're traveling to a country is . . kinda odd.
*Seatmate on plane turns to you*
"Where u going?"
"Europe."
"Ya no shit man, so is everyone on this plane. Where u going?"
"Uhh . . Spain, I guess. In Europe. Cause it's in Europe, you know."
Maybe I'm missing what you're getting at, but insisting on Europe as an overly general answer to a question concerning your destination is silly.
by Mesrane » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:27 am
Deuxtete wrote:Mesrane wrote:Oh gawd, no.
I find that a bit silly, TBH. It's being over-general when a more specific answer would be more appropriate. You don't mention the country you are a citizen of when a foreigner asks you where you're from?
As for Spain, I would definitely say that I'm going to Spain if I'm going to Spain. Insisting that no, I'm going to Europe, is like saying that you went to X town when someone asks you what you did today. Well, what did you do in X town? Go to the mall? See a movie? That's probably not a great example of what I'm trying to say, but my point is that an insistence on refusing to identify a country you are traveling too when you're traveling to a country is . . kinda odd.
*Seatmate on plane turns to you*
"Where u going?"
"Europe."
"Ya no shit man, so is everyone on this plane. Where u going?"
"Uhh . . Spain, I guess. In Europe. Cause it's in Europe, you know."
Maybe I'm missing what you're getting at, but insisting on Europe as an overly general answer to a question concerning your destination is silly.
I wasn't going to Spain. Hence my point. I was literally touring Europe...the plane was landing in Spain. Duhderpduh.
But hey your way works too, simple thinking for simple minds I suppose.
by Rio Cana » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:29 am
Mesrane wrote:-Bailey Jay- wrote:
Oh, k. Sorry. I thought you were in the "United Statesian" crowd.
Oh gawd, no.Deuxtete wrote:Well no, North America isn't a country.
However when asked the more general question "where are you from" I do in fact reply North America, if I'm not in North America.
I don't assume non-english speakers will know my accent. Plus, its just natural.
I'm not going to say I'm going to Spain just because that's where the plane is landing... I'm going to Europe.
The most common question is of course "American?" So they know if they must speak English.
I'm not saying you're wrong precisely but people do in fact say "im north American".
I find that a bit silly, TBH. It's being over-general when a more specific answer would be more appropriate. You don't mention the country you are a citizen of when a foreigner asks you where you're from?
As for Spain, I would definitely say that I'm going to Spain if I'm going to Spain. Insisting that no, I'm going to Europe, is like saying that you went to X town when someone asks you what you did today. Well, what did you do in X town? Go to the mall? See a movie? That's probably not a great example of what I'm trying to say, but my point is that an insistence on refusing to identify a country you are traveling too when you're traveling to a country is . . kinda odd.
*Seatmate on plane turns to you*
"Where u going?"
"Europe."
"Ya no shit man, so is everyone on this plane. Where u going?"
"Uhh . . Spain, I guess. In Europe. Cause it's in Europe, you know."
Maybe I'm missing what you're getting at, but insisting on Europe as an overly general answer to a question concerning your destination is silly.
by Socialist Tera » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:30 am
by Deuxtete » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:34 am
Mesrane wrote:Deuxtete wrote:I wasn't going to Spain. Hence my point. I was literally touring Europe...the plane was landing in Spain. Duhderpduh.
But hey your way works too, simple thinking for simple minds I suppose.
Maybe you should have actually mentioned that, instead of leaving your post unclear so as to imply that your final destination was Spain. Details details.
by Mesrane » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:43 am
Deuxtete wrote:Mesrane wrote:Maybe you should have actually mentioned that, instead of leaving your post unclear so as to imply that your final destination was Spain. Details details.
I did, you made an assumption using your "logic" which oh look, proved to be kind of useless.
I said I was going to Europe... The plane did in fact land in Spain I did get off in Spain, but your "logic" crumbles in practice.
You do you though, I'm sure its easier.
I'm not going to say I'm going to Spain just because that's where the plane is landing... I'm going to Europe.
by Imperializt Russia » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:46 am
Aelex wrote:Imperializt Russia wrote:Besides, the French already call you "USians".
No?!?
I've heard a lot of differents way to call an american : " 'ricain", "Amerloque", "Américain" or even "Yankee" (pronounced "Yanqui") but I never heard such a term.
P.S : A little checking on the dictionnary told me it's not accepted by the Académie Française neither.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Varincia » Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:49 pm
by Liberty and Linguistics » Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:55 pm
North Calaveras wrote:Nothing, but for some reason a lot of people in the US love to say " oh im italian or irish or german"
no bitch...your American, just because your grandaddy is from (insert here) dosn't make you a part of that people, I have German and Italian ancestery but I would never say I have loyalty or some sense of commitment to these places.
by Aelex » Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:09 pm
Imperializt Russia wrote:Implying Académie Française is an institution of any relevance.
by Imperializt Russia » Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:17 pm
Aelex wrote:Imperializt Russia wrote:Implying Académie Française is an institution of any relevance.
Given it's the institution which approve the entering of word in dictionnary, it indeed is of some sort of importance in the context we're talking about.
And please, stop raging because your country don't have one. "Exception Culturelle" ftw!
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Deuxtete » Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:20 pm
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:North Calaveras wrote:Nothing, but for some reason a lot of people in the US love to say " oh im italian or irish or german"
no bitch...your American, just because your grandaddy is from (insert here) dosn't make you a part of that people, I have German and Italian ancestery but I would never say I have loyalty or some sense of commitment to these places.
Well, yeah, they're just discussing where their ancestors are from. My grandparents came from Sweden, but I say I'm "Swedish-American", not Swedish.
by Aelex » Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:21 pm
Imperializt Russia wrote:Our similar institution isn't intransigent to the point of petty resistance to the notion that French is not God's gift to spoken word.
by Wisconsin9 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:25 pm
Rio Cana wrote:Mesrane wrote:Naturally. The poster I originally responded to seemed to think people refer to themselves as North American aside from distinguishing themselves from South America, as if North America could be a country.
Generally, when one thinks of North America they tend to first think of the US stretching from Sea to Shining Sea. It takes up a chunk of NA. Mexico, Central America and Canada being on the peripheral, really seem not to be taken much into account.
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