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Postby Unibotian WASC Mission » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:23 am

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Commend New South Hell
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.
Category: Commendation | Nominee: New South Hell | Proposed by: Unibotian WASC Mission


Description:

The Security Council,

Recalling an unofficial survey concluded in April 2009 that suggested those who regard issue responding and nation building as their favorite aspect of NationStates are outnumbered 6 to 1 by other communities,

Believing that a community, no matter how small or quiet can encompass many members who deeply contribute to their communities and aboard,

Seeking to acknowledge the achievements and contributions of nominees across the various communities of NationStates as they wish to be acknowledged,

Understanding that New South Hell as a nation is nothing but profoundly deplorable because of several policies including but not limited to its:
• Perpetual punishment and oppression of its citizens,
• Continual war with neighboring nations,
• Appreciation of evil and horrific human rights violations,
• Dissemination of Fear,
• Creation of a diverse and malicious environment,

Acknowledging that behind such a hellhole is a player that is extremely dedicated to exploring and investigating the mysterious game mechanics that govern NationStates,

Celebrating the tireless experimentation and contributions of this NationStates scholar, known by many as “Professor Hell” in his School of Ideological Studies where he has critically analyzed:
• Government types,
• Issue repetition,
• Ideological categories for nations,
• National qualities (Political Freedoms, Economy, Civil Rights),
• NationStates calculators (NSeconomy, NStracker),
• The “National History” feature,

Noting that New South Hell, with his scholarly knowledge and his boundless creativity was instrumental in the reform of the game code (for v1.12) to provide new national descriptors and reduce issue repetition,

Further noting the innumerable quantity of nations that New South Hell has created over the years to experiment with the hidden facets of the game,

Believing that any nominee as dedicated and contributive to their community as New South Hell is someone worth recognizing with a commendation from the World Assembly,

Hereby Commends New South Hell.


If you wish to support this proposal in protest, go here.

If you wish to delete this proposal in protest, go here.
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Postby Denecaep » Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:16 pm

Are both of those links meant to go to the proposal?
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:04 pm

Yes. He's daring the moderators to delete his illegal proposal. Sadly, with all the SC's newfangled tools and dials and knobs and whatsits, the admins forgot to include a "Grow Up Already" category. Oh well. :roll:
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Postby Virtualila » Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:19 pm

Condemn Britian and France
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation
Nominee: Britian and France
Proposed by: The EuropeanFederation

Description: The nation of Britian and France has waged war against my own nation but with a sick twist.

I am SHOCKED by the acts of terror this nation has performed in my nation. I would like to give an example: the nation had obliterated a city with no mercy, killing around 10 million people without reason.
This nation has performed many acts of godmodding which has in turn ruined the games that are played with the nation.

I ask you to please condemn this nation - so you shall then know that this nation is one that does god mod a lot and performs many acts of violent terror without reason or mercy.

Approvals: 2 (Charlotte Ryberg, The EuropeanFederation)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 56 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days, 3 hours



SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL

Condemn The EuropeanFederation
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation
Nominee: The EuropeanFederation
Proposed by: Britian and France

Description: This Nation has repetable made attacks against my nation since forming I believe that this nation must be Condemed so no other nations may suffer.

They are War mongrals consistantly starting wars with my nation and unimproving nations with a massive superpower against myself.

Although I believe this nation may have already attacked me in a Codemanation I believ he did so to try and damage my international statas.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 58 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days, 3 hours



Wow, two nations attacking each other in the SC. Fun.
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Postby Unibot » Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:58 am

4 minutes ago: The proposal "Commend New South Hell" was removed from the floor.

It had reached quorum though! W00t! I don't know how much "willful gloating" I was promoting, according to the mod telegram, but, whatevers!

Thanks to the people that made this protest possible...
Approvals: 60 (Ananke II, War Demons, Martin Sacchi, Vescia, Zeppy, Greater Rhodes, Kandarin, TerraPublica, Joshuahood, Charlotte Ryberg, Liberal Geniuses, Ammador, Telemnaria, Picklepoo, The chrisman union, King Kulla, Auremena, South Kirkcaldy, Marflo, City of Norfolk, Jewish-Christian Natio, Simkonis, Stoned Drunkards, Acaiteron, Grandais, Pajaritos, Mostrov, Nullarni, Maul-5, Tyrrin, Sionis Prioratus, Fioteria, Pandemicia, Manticore Reborn, The Warpath, Sofiria, Maxedon, Chazicaria, Germoaustria, Aridiya, Nova Hispannica, Kate hesson, Elkana, Balida, Halatio, Irzen, Aldonin, Lumasto, Isura, Grays Harbor, West and Middle Asia, Raludcia, Sungai Pusat, Las Nuevas Filipinas, Slayers And Witches, Dagnia, Darkesia, Union of Estovakia, Vichy Government, Martilia)


I'll be continuing shortly (with Abroad spelt correctly.. :lol2: ).
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Postby Kryozerkia » Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:01 am

Unibotian WASC Mission wrote:
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Commend New South Hell
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.
Category: Commendation | Nominee: New South Hell | Proposed by: Unibotian WASC Mission


Description:

The Security Council,

Recalling an unofficial survey concluded in April 2009 that suggested those who regard issue responding and nation building as their favorite aspect of NationStates are outnumbered 6 to 1 by other communities,

Believing that a community, no matter how small or quiet can encompass many members who deeply contribute to their communities and aboard,

Seeking to acknowledge the achievements and contributions of nominees across the various communities of NationStates as they wish to be acknowledged,

Understanding that New South Hell as a nation is nothing but profoundly deplorable because of several policies including but not limited to its:
• Perpetual punishment and oppression of its citizens,
• Continual war with neighboring nations,
• Appreciation of evil and horrific human rights violations,
• Dissemination of Fear,
• Creation of a diverse and malicious environment,

Acknowledging that behind such a hellhole is a player that is extremely dedicated to exploring and investigating the mysterious game mechanics that govern NationStates,

Celebrating the tireless experimentation and contributions of this NationStates scholar, known by many as “Professor Hell” in his School of Ideological Studies where he has critically analyzed:
• Government types,
• Issue repetition,
• Ideological categories for nations,
• National qualities (Political Freedoms, Economy, Civil Rights),
• NationStates calculators (NSeconomy, NStracker),
• The “National History” feature,

Noting that New South Hell, with his scholarly knowledge and his boundless creativity was instrumental in the reform of the game code (for v1.12) to provide new national descriptors and reduce issue repetition,

Further noting the innumerable quantity of nations that New South Hell has created over the years to experiment with the hidden facets of the game,

Believing that any nominee as dedicated and contributive to their community as New South Hell is someone worth recognizing with a commendation from the World Assembly,

Hereby Commends New South Hell.
If you wish to support this proposal in protest, go here.

If you wish to delete this proposal in protest, go here.

Oh look, how quaint, it achieved quorum. And oops, looks like I just removed it. Oh well.
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Postby Unibot » Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:04 am

Kryozerkia wrote:
Unibotian WASC Mission wrote:
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Commend New South Hell
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.
Category: Commendation | Nominee: New South Hell | Proposed by: Unibotian WASC Mission


Description:

The Security Council,

Recalling an unofficial survey concluded in April 2009 that suggested those who regard issue responding and nation building as their favorite aspect of NationStates are outnumbered 6 to 1 by other communities,

Believing that a community, no matter how small or quiet can encompass many members who deeply contribute to their communities and aboard,

Seeking to acknowledge the achievements and contributions of nominees across the various communities of NationStates as they wish to be acknowledged,

Understanding that New South Hell as a nation is nothing but profoundly deplorable because of several policies including but not limited to its:
• Perpetual punishment and oppression of its citizens,
• Continual war with neighboring nations,
• Appreciation of evil and horrific human rights violations,
• Dissemination of Fear,
• Creation of a diverse and malicious environment,

Acknowledging that behind such a hellhole is a player that is extremely dedicated to exploring and investigating the mysterious game mechanics that govern NationStates,

Celebrating the tireless experimentation and contributions of this NationStates scholar, known by many as “Professor Hell” in his School of Ideological Studies where he has critically analyzed:
• Government types,
• Issue repetition,
• Ideological categories for nations,
• National qualities (Political Freedoms, Economy, Civil Rights),
• NationStates calculators (NSeconomy, NStracker),
• The “National History” feature,

Noting that New South Hell, with his scholarly knowledge and his boundless creativity was instrumental in the reform of the game code (for v1.12) to provide new national descriptors and reduce issue repetition,

Further noting the innumerable quantity of nations that New South Hell has created over the years to experiment with the hidden facets of the game,

Believing that any nominee as dedicated and contributive to their community as New South Hell is someone worth recognizing with a commendation from the World Assembly,

Hereby Commends New South Hell.
If you wish to support this proposal in protest, go here.

If you wish to delete this proposal in protest, go here.

Oh look, how quaint, it achieved quorum. And oops, looks like I just removed it. Oh well.


Beat you to it, Miss. *sticks his tongue out*
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Postby Unibot » Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:58 pm

All unintended gloating aside. "Commend New South Hell" has been submitted again.
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Postby Bears Armed » Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:08 am

Unibot wrote:All unintended gloating aside. "Commend New South Hell" has been submitted again.


*(looks)*

The proposal could not be found.
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Postby Unibot » Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:56 pm

Bears Armed wrote:
Unibot wrote:All unintended gloating aside. "Commend New South Hell" has been submitted again.


*(looks)*

The proposal could not be found.


Yep it was deleted about seven hours after the Major Update on July 2. There is some controversy over if had reached quorum or not. At the major update it only had seven more approvals that it needed, so it should have been able to have gained seven more approvals in seven hours.. however, that is a slow period of activity for NationStates, so I won't rule it out. So, Kenny, if you're wondering for the timeline... I have no fucking idea. Ananke said she saw the proposal last with one approval needed, she didn't specify what time.

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Postby Grandais » Sun Jul 04, 2010 4:53 pm

Condemn Avatars Fire Nation

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: FlagAvatars Fire Nation


Proposed by: FlagOlivia the Pig

Description: NOTING that Avatars Fire Nation is an evil nation bent on destroying the human spirit.

REALIZING that the nation is classified as Iron Fist Consumerists according to the WA. The nation also offers few civil rights and has outlawed political rights.

DISTURBED that Avatars Fire Nation has dreadful policys such as
1. Senior citizens can usuall be found doing heavy manual labor.
2. Phone taps are frequently carried out by the police.
3. Ethnic minorities are often refused admission to some of the nation's best schools.
4. Citizens are regularly arrested in queues for 'loitering'.
5. A cyber-war between file sharers and the music industry formats hard drives across the country.

ALSO NOTING that the nation's motto is "Burn Baby Burn!" a motto that shows hate and evil.

PREDICTING that this nation will continue to adopt miserable ways of life and aid evil operations within NationStates.

HEARBY CONDEMNS Avatars Fire Nation.
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Postby Sedgistan » Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:14 pm

How is that illegal?

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Postby Grandais » Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:20 pm

Metagaming?
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Postby Kandarin » Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:20 pm

Sedgistan wrote:How is that illegal?


It's not illegal, it's just silly! :p
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Postby Ardchoille » Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:35 pm

Grandais, metagaming's pretty much for GA proposals only. (Somebody did manage to write a prop that metagamed even in SC terms, but happily I've forgotten the mind-bending details.)

However, whether the current proposal adds up to being something dastardly enough to pin a badge of international shame on the nation is another matter. I think Kandarin's called it.
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Postby Unibot » Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:40 pm

Ardchoille wrote:Grandais, metagaming's pretty much for GA proposals only. (Somebody did manage to write a prop that metagamed even in SC terms, but happily I've forgotten the mind-bending details.)


That was me, but only 'cause I'm brilliant and incredibly talented at finding things to do that are illegal. ;)

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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:23 pm

Condemn New Lolland

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation


Nominee: New Lolland


Proposed by: Jarnhalla

Description: NOTING that New Lolland is a malevolent, malfeasant economic autocracy bent on destroying the human spirit of its citizens.

REALIZING that the nation is classified as a Corporate Police State according to the WA. The nation also offers only some civil rights and has few political rights.

DISTURBED that New Lolland has dreadful policys such as
1. requiring property ownership in order to hold public office,
2. an utter ban on referendums
3. random unwarranted arrests based on false accusations of loitering,
4. Unrestricted movement of Fortune 500 businesses in the political arena
5. Forcing the near extinction of its national animal, the lowl,

ALSO NOTING that the nation's motto is "I always tell the truth. Even when I lie." This motto reflects an unperturbed adversity against political and socially just behavior.

NOTING FURTHER than New Lolland is number one in its region for Largest Gambling Industry, a blight on the nation's ability to shore up investments in the lives of gambling addicts' better health,

PREDICTING that this nation will continue to promote unregulated self-interest in corporations adverse to its own peoples' interests,

HEARBY CONDEMNS New Lolland.


Plagiarised from Condemn Avatars Fire Nation.

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Postby Joshuahood » Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:05 am

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL

Condemn Arathian nation
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation
Nominee: Arathian nation
Proposed by: Minosnek

Description: Noting that The Republic of Arathian nation has been elected King of the region and is also a WA Regional Delegate.

The Republic of Arathian nation was elected Regional King and World Assembley Regional Delegate, and has been abusing its power and violating The Regional League of Nations Tyranny Act ever since. Many Governments, including mine, agree that it has been abusing its power ever since elected. It has been forcing the creation of puppet nations in the regions, without the Regional League of Nations approval, also it forced WA Delegates in the region to endorse it for "Security Reasons."

Hearby Condemn The Republic of Arathian nation

Approvals: 1 (The LoUnited Nations)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 55 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days, 12 hours


Not only poorly written, but may be in violation of Rule IV

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL

Commend Minosnek
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation
Nominee: Minosnek
Proposed by: Free Peoples Cheese

Description: CONSIDERING that Minosnek has done so much for Wunderbares Paradies,

INCLUDING making the regional League of Nations and submitting many proposals to the WA and regional League of Nations,

ALSO INCLUDING that Minosnek has been fighting for regional equality, considering that Arathian Nation has forced everyone to vote for it, and Minosnek has tried to stop it,

AND CONSIDERING that Minosnek has fought in many wars on the side of good, and has proposed: "Regional Criminal Court", "Regional Trade Union", and so many more,

HEREBY COMMENDS MINOSNEK.

Approvals: 3 (Slayers And Witches, The LoUnited Nations, Aeron Technologies)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 53 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days, 12 hours


Better written, but may be in violation of R4

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL

Condemn Johnia Goldenland
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation
Nominee: Johnia Goldenland
Proposed by: Minosnek

Description: Finding it intolerable that this nation has violated regional rules, and has falsely accused my government of containing 10 puppet nations, and has also claimed that my information in a condemnation was false.

Other nations in this region find it intelerable that this nation did not follow the regional policy, don't join a war unless asked to. But has joined in a conflict between four nations.

Hearby Condemn The Rogue Nation of Johnia Goldenland

Approvals: 1 (The LoUnited Nations)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 55 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days, 12 hours


Definitely in violation of R4.

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL

Condemn Minosnek
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation
Nominee: Minosnek
Proposed by: Arathian nation

Description: REALIZING that Minosnek condemned his delegate and has tried to take control of the thrown even though that is against regional law

ALSO REALIZING that Minosnek has abused the Regional League of Nations

ALTHOUGH Minosnek has helped many nations, he hasn’t helped the delegate

MINOSNEK: a greedy tyrant nation that abuses the power of the World Assembly to try to gain regional power. A nation that doesn’t care for most nations in the region. And a nation that doesn’t recognize the Arathian Nation on how many good deeds the nation has done.

HEREBY CONDEMN Minosnek


Approvals: 1 (Arathian nation)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 55 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days


A retaliation Condemnation in my opinion, seems to be trying to get the SC to go against Minosnek because he wouldn't "recognize the Arathian Nation on how many good deeds the nation has done," among other petty things. Basically whining.


ALL FOUR of these proposals came from members of the same region, in response to Minosnek being mad at Arathian for something, condemning him, Johnia went with Arathian maybe, Minosnek condemn him too, someone decides to commend Minosnek for good work, Arathian gets mad at all of this and condemns the source: Minosnek. Or at least that is what I gained from watching this unfold.

They all seem to be trying to get the SC to go against/for someone, because they can't solve it themselves. They are all biased.
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Postby Mousebumples » Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:30 pm

Joshuahood wrote:They all seem to be trying to get the SC to go against/for someone, because they can't solve it themselves. They are all biased.

While I agree that the proposals are likely in violation of Rule 4, biased SC proposals are not necessarily a bad thing. In fact, most SC proposals are biased in one way or another. Few nations are ONLY bad or ONLY good - so all C&C's either ignore the contradictory facts or sweep them under the rug as being "irrelevant" to the proposal at hand.

At least, that's my 2 cents.
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Postby Joshuahood » Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:01 pm

Mousebumples wrote:
Joshuahood wrote:They all seem to be trying to get the SC to go against/for someone, because they can't solve it themselves. They are all biased.

While I agree that the proposals are likely in violation of Rule 4, biased SC proposals are not necessarily a bad thing. In fact, most SC proposals are biased in one way or another. Few nations are ONLY bad or ONLY good - so all C&C's either ignore the contradictory facts or sweep them under the rug as being "irrelevant" to the proposal at hand.

At least, that's my 2 cents.


True, but when you see this:

MINOSNEK: a greedy tyrant nation that abuses the power of the World Assembly to try to gain regional power. A nation that doesn’t care for most nations in the region. And a nation that doesn’t recognize the Arathian Nation on how many good deeds the nation has done.


I think we can all agree that this goes a bit far on the bias scale, considering that it seems like Arathian Nation seems to be the only one who's said that.
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Postby Ardchoille » Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:33 pm

I agree with Joshuahood that all four of those are in breach of Rule 4, and I agree with Mousebumples that a bit of bias is to be expected -- if you think that @@nationame@@ "tramples democracy and provides no leadership, but buckles under in the face of outside threats", you're not likely to want to add "but is kind to animals".

I wouldn't say that "a greedy tyrant nation that abuses the power of the World Assembly" is going too far. Move that into the real world, substitute "the US" or "China" or "Russia" for "Minosnek" and replace "World Assembly" with "United Nations Security Council", and you've got next week's/last year's headlines.

But that sort of language makes it a "silly" proposal. Delegates aren't dumb, and most quickly learn to ignore the icing -- the abusive words and phrases -- and go for the cake -- what the nation actually did. If there's very little cake, there are very few approvals for the proposal.

And if The Cake Is A Lie, well, we all know what that means ... ;)
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Postby Johnia Goldenland » Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:11 am

Joshuahood wrote:
SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL

Condemn Arathian nation
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation
Nominee: Arathian nation
Proposed by: Minosnek

Description: Noting that The Republic of Arathian nation has been elected King of the region and is also a WA Regional Delegate.

The Republic of Arathian nation was elected Regional King and World Assembley Regional Delegate, and has been abusing its power and violating The Regional League of Nations Tyranny Act ever since. Many Governments, including mine, agree that it has been abusing its power ever since elected. It has been forcing the creation of puppet nations in the regions, without the Regional League of Nations approval, also it forced WA Delegates in the region to endorse it for "Security Reasons."

Hearby Condemn The Republic of Arathian nation

Approvals: 1 (The LoUnited Nations)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 55 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days, 12 hours


Not only poorly written, but may be in violation of Rule IV

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL

Commend Minosnek
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation
Nominee: Minosnek
Proposed by: Free Peoples Cheese

Description: CONSIDERING that Minosnek has done so much for Wunderbares Paradies,

INCLUDING making the regional League of Nations and submitting many proposals to the WA and regional League of Nations,

ALSO INCLUDING that Minosnek has been fighting for regional equality, considering that Arathian Nation has forced everyone to vote for it, and Minosnek has tried to stop it,

AND CONSIDERING that Minosnek has fought in many wars on the side of good, and has proposed: "Regional Criminal Court", "Regional Trade Union", and so many more,

HEREBY COMMENDS MINOSNEK.

Approvals: 3 (Slayers And Witches, The LoUnited Nations, Aeron Technologies)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 53 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days, 12 hours


Better written, but may be in violation of R4

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL

Condemn Johnia Goldenland
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation
Nominee: Johnia Goldenland
Proposed by: Minosnek

Description: Finding it intolerable that this nation has violated regional rules, and has falsely accused my government of containing 10 puppet nations, and has also claimed that my information in a condemnation was false.

Other nations in this region find it intelerable that this nation did not follow the regional policy, don't join a war unless asked to. But has joined in a conflict between four nations.

Hearby Condemn The Rogue Nation of Johnia Goldenland

Approvals: 1 (The LoUnited Nations)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 55 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days, 12 hours


Definitely in violation of R4.

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL

Condemn Minosnek
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation
Nominee: Minosnek
Proposed by: Arathian nation

Description: REALIZING that Minosnek condemned his delegate and has tried to take control of the thrown even though that is against regional law

ALSO REALIZING that Minosnek has abused the Regional League of Nations

ALTHOUGH Minosnek has helped many nations, he hasn’t helped the delegate

MINOSNEK: a greedy tyrant nation that abuses the power of the World Assembly to try to gain regional power. A nation that doesn’t care for most nations in the region. And a nation that doesn’t recognize the Arathian Nation on how many good deeds the nation has done.

HEREBY CONDEMN Minosnek


Approvals: 1 (Arathian nation)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 55 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days


A retaliation Condemnation in my opinion, seems to be trying to get the SC to go against Minosnek because he wouldn't "recognize the Arathian Nation on how many good deeds the nation has done," among other petty things. Basically whining.


ALL FOUR of these proposals came from members of the same region, in response to Minosnek being mad at Arathian for something, condemning him, Johnia went with Arathian maybe, Minosnek condemn him too, someone decides to commend Minosnek for good work, Arathian gets mad at all of this and condemns the source: Minosnek. Or at least that is what I gained from watching this unfold.

They all seem to be trying to get the SC to go against/for someone, because they can't solve it themselves. They are all biased.

you forgot that for like a minute I tried to condem minosnek, that is why he got mad at me and also because I started a war with him, He also tried to condem the whole region but got kicked out for direct violation of rules because he submitted my proposal for abolishing the WA. He got mad at me, left the region and re-applied. I then resighned fearing his and others wrath. Now the two proposals are condem and commend minosnek, funny huh?
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Postby Johnia Goldenland » Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:22 am

oh and I am not biased, I have had long conversations with both other nations and Minosnek truly seems to have had a mental rope on to the region, shoulda just left, he declared war on many other nations. Also, no one here is that biased, because even after being submited for condemption Arian nation still supported most of Minosnek's proposals
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Postby Joshuahood » Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:57 am

Johnia Goldenland wrote:
Joshuahood wrote:
SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL

Condemn Arathian nation
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation
Nominee: Arathian nation
Proposed by: Minosnek

Description: Noting that The Republic of Arathian nation has been elected King of the region and is also a WA Regional Delegate.

The Republic of Arathian nation was elected Regional King and World Assembley Regional Delegate, and has been abusing its power and violating The Regional League of Nations Tyranny Act ever since. Many Governments, including mine, agree that it has been abusing its power ever since elected. It has been forcing the creation of puppet nations in the regions, without the Regional League of Nations approval, also it forced WA Delegates in the region to endorse it for "Security Reasons."

Hearby Condemn The Republic of Arathian nation

Approvals: 1 (The LoUnited Nations)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 55 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days, 12 hours


Not only poorly written, but may be in violation of Rule IV

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL

Commend Minosnek
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.


Category: Commendation
Nominee: Minosnek
Proposed by: Free Peoples Cheese

Description: CONSIDERING that Minosnek has done so much for Wunderbares Paradies,

INCLUDING making the regional League of Nations and submitting many proposals to the WA and regional League of Nations,

ALSO INCLUDING that Minosnek has been fighting for regional equality, considering that Arathian Nation has forced everyone to vote for it, and Minosnek has tried to stop it,

AND CONSIDERING that Minosnek has fought in many wars on the side of good, and has proposed: "Regional Criminal Court", "Regional Trade Union", and so many more,

HEREBY COMMENDS MINOSNEK.

Approvals: 3 (Slayers And Witches, The LoUnited Nations, Aeron Technologies)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 53 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days, 12 hours


Better written, but may be in violation of R4

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL

Condemn Johnia Goldenland
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation
Nominee: Johnia Goldenland
Proposed by: Minosnek

Description: Finding it intolerable that this nation has violated regional rules, and has falsely accused my government of containing 10 puppet nations, and has also claimed that my information in a condemnation was false.

Other nations in this region find it intelerable that this nation did not follow the regional policy, don't join a war unless asked to. But has joined in a conflict between four nations.

Hearby Condemn The Rogue Nation of Johnia Goldenland

Approvals: 1 (The LoUnited Nations)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 55 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days, 12 hours


Definitely in violation of R4.

SECURITY COUNCIL PROPOSAL

Condemn Minosnek
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.


Category: Condemnation
Nominee: Minosnek
Proposed by: Arathian nation

Description: REALIZING that Minosnek condemned his delegate and has tried to take control of the thrown even though that is against regional law

ALSO REALIZING that Minosnek has abused the Regional League of Nations

ALTHOUGH Minosnek has helped many nations, he hasn’t helped the delegate

MINOSNEK: a greedy tyrant nation that abuses the power of the World Assembly to try to gain regional power. A nation that doesn’t care for most nations in the region. And a nation that doesn’t recognize the Arathian Nation on how many good deeds the nation has done.

HEREBY CONDEMN Minosnek


Approvals: 1 (Arathian nation)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 55 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days


A retaliation Condemnation in my opinion, seems to be trying to get the SC to go against Minosnek because he wouldn't "recognize the Arathian Nation on how many good deeds the nation has done," among other petty things. Basically whining.


ALL FOUR of these proposals came from members of the same region, in response to Minosnek being mad at Arathian for something, condemning him, Johnia went with Arathian maybe, Minosnek condemn him too, someone decides to commend Minosnek for good work, Arathian gets mad at all of this and condemns the source: Minosnek. Or at least that is what I gained from watching this unfold.

They all seem to be trying to get the SC to go against/for someone, because they can't solve it themselves. They are all biased.

you forgot that for like a minute I tried to condem minosnek, that is why he got mad at me and also because I started a war with him, He also tried to condem the whole region but got kicked out for direct violation of rules because he submitted my proposal for abolishing the WA. He got mad at me, left the region and re-applied. I then resighned fearing his and others wrath. Now the two proposals are condem and commend minosnek, funny huh?


Well, I'm not stalking the region, so I wouldn't know EVERYTHING, would I? :p
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Postby Ardchoille » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:26 pm

Johnia Goldenland wrote:<snip>


This thread is mainly for discussing the technical aspects of proposals. Arguments about their content should be made in a drafting thread -- and writers who make a drafting thread are less likely to end up in this thread, because a drafting thread lets other players point out any problems.

BTW, see how Joshuahood has hidden the long, long quote with the Spoiler tags? It's courteous to do that, instead of making those who've been following the discussion slog through the same post several times.
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