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There is a link between atheism and homosexuality

Postby United States of White America » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:51 am

Read this source (http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/lgbt ... hts170613/):

Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people are more likely to be atheist than anyone else in the general population, a new survey has found.

Nearly half of all LGBT adults surveyed said they were atheist, compared to 20% of the general population.

According to the Pew Research Center, those who said they were religious also attended services less often and attach less importance to their faith than other people.

A 34-year-old lesbian is quoted in the report as saying she attends a church that allows gays and lesbians to be ordained.

‘However, it would be an issue for some people in the church and I’m not ready to open that can of worms,’ she said.

The online survey of 1,200 self-identified LGBT adults in California is one of the largest and most detailed of the community, Pew has said.

George Broadhead, secretary and trustee of UK-based gay humanist charity The Pink Triangle Trust, alleged atheists in the US are more discriminated against than LGBT people.

Speaking to Gay Star News, he said gay people in the UK, in his experience, was a far larger majority of the atheist population than the Pew research suggests.

‘I would say without a shadow of a doubt, in this country that religion, the hostility of religion to LGBT relationships and rights, puts them off.

‘I can’t understand why anybody in their right minds if they’re gay or lesbian would want to embrace any religion like Catholicism which is so hostile. It’s masochistic.’

Sharon Ferguson, from the UK-based Lesbian and Gay Christian Movement, said it was the media who often puts faith and sexuality at opposing ends.

‘The message for a long time now is one of LGBT people are not welcome within church, and so naturally that message gets through, and people feel there isn’t a place for them within organized religion,’ she said.

‘But if you talk about spirituality, that would be a very different kettle of fish. Gay people probably have a greater spirituality and greater desire to connect with the divine than the rest of the population.’

She added: ‘The Christian voice saying it is an abomination is actually a minority, and they’re not speaking the truth. You don’t have to pick one or the other, you can have both, it’s not either or, you can have both.

‘You don’t have to be in the closet when you go to the church about your sexuality, or be in the closet in the gay bar about your faith.’


Although this article is positive, the reality is negative.

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Postby Jochistan » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:54 am

It might stop if religious institutions would stop treating them like garbage.

Christians are getting better with accepting LGBT Rights, though.
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Postby New DeCapito » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:54 am

Of course. Naturally there are less homosexuals in a religion that condemns them. But you seem to be suggesting that atheism having more homosexuals is a bad thing, which means that you must come over your prejudices in order to properly argue your point.
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Postby United States of White America » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:55 am

Jochistan wrote:It might stop if religious institutions would stop treating them like garbage.


They should just get on with it.
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New DeCapito wrote:Of course. Naturally there are less homosexuals in a religion that condemns them. But you seem to be suggesting that atheism having more homosexuals is a bad thing, which means that you must come over your prejudices in order to properly argue your point.


Atheism is inherently evil.
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Postby ErVaReAn rEpUbLiC » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:56 am

This is likely less pronounced in countries where 80-90% of the population is atheist.

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:57 am

LGBT individuals become atheist because religious assholes force them out of the church.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:58 am

United States of White America wrote:
New DeCapito wrote:Of course. Naturally there are less homosexuals in a religion that condemns them. But you seem to be suggesting that atheism having more homosexuals is a bad thing, which means that you must come over your prejudices in order to properly argue your point.


Atheism is inherently evil.


Why?
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United States of White America wrote:
New DeCapito wrote:Of course. Naturally there are less homosexuals in a religion that condemns them. But you seem to be suggesting that atheism having more homosexuals is a bad thing, which means that you must come over your prejudices in order to properly argue your point.


Atheism is inherently evil.

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Postby United States of White America » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:59 am

Vassenor wrote:
United States of White America wrote:
Atheism is inherently evil.


Why?


It promotes non-conformity, incest, bestiality and paedophilia, amongst other things.
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Postby Jochistan » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:00 am

United States of White America wrote:
Jochistan wrote:It might stop if religious institutions would stop treating them like garbage.


They should just get on with it.

What, the religious institutions treating them badly?
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:00 am

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Vassenor wrote:
Why?


It promotes non-conformity, incest, bestiality and paedophilia, amongst other things.

No it doesn't. Stop pulling things out of your ass and bring up real points.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:01 am

United States of White America wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Why?


It promotes non-conformity, incest, bestiality and paedophilia, amongst other things.


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Postby New DeCapito » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:01 am

United States of White America wrote:
New DeCapito wrote:Of course. Naturally there are less homosexuals in a religion that condemns them. But you seem to be suggesting that atheism having more homosexuals is a bad thing, which means that you must come over your prejudices in order to properly argue your point.


Atheism is inherently evil.

Oh my. Can you please explain why you think something, and not just think that your opinions are universal truth?
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Postby United States of White America » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:01 am

Jochistan wrote:
United States of White America wrote:
They should just get on with it.

What, the religious institutions treating them badly?


No, the gays should take it.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:02 am

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Jochistan wrote:What, the religious institutions treating them badly?


No, the gays should take it.

No, actually, no one should "take" being disrespected.
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Postby Jochistan » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:02 am

United States of White America wrote:
Jochistan wrote:What, the religious institutions treating them badly?


No, the gays should take it.

And convert anyway?
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Postby United States of White America » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:03 am

Jochistan wrote:
United States of White America wrote:
No, the gays should take it.

And convert anyway?


Yes.
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Postby Zaereas » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:03 am

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
United States of White America wrote:
No, the gays should take it.

No, actually, no one should "take" being disrespected.


unless you're religious, then you better take it and deal with it, you homophobic bigot
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Postby Val Halla » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:03 am

United States of White America wrote:
Jochistan wrote:What, the religious institutions treating them badly?


No, the gays should take it.

At least I'm OK, as a transgender, pansexual atheist, amma right?
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Postby New DeCapito » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:03 am

United States of White America wrote:
Jochistan wrote:And convert anyway?


Yes.

So, you want homosexuals to convert to a religion that promotes their death in its holy texts? Good luck, mate.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:04 am

United States of White America wrote:
Jochistan wrote:What, the religious institutions treating them badly?


No, the gays should take it.


No-one should have to put up with being discriminated against and actively abused.
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Postby Jochistan » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:06 am

United States of White America wrote:
Jochistan wrote:And convert anyway?


Yes.

Ah. Well. I appreciate the inclusiveness. But let's be realistic and take responsibility. It would s
Get more converts if those souls weren't being told they were unnatural abominations.

It's really not their fault to being introduced to a religion in that way and deciding to go no further.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:08 am

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:LGBT individuals become atheist because religious assholes force them out of the church.

Why the church? Why not a mosque? Muslims are lesstolerant than Christians, you know
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:11 am

Australian Republic wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:LGBT individuals become atheist because religious assholes force them out of the church.

Why the church? Why not a mosque? Muslims are lesstolerant than Christians, you know

As a Muslim I recognize the transgressions of my brothers and sisters. I said "church" because in America, ie the country in the OP, Churches and Christianity are a fuckload more common.
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