The Red Tide: A WW3 Tactical RP(OOC, Open)

[Australian Antarctica]

Specialist...

Suicide bomber...

Redneck....


I'd like to get at least the last couple Co-Op spots filled and probably two platoons before starting the IC.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Exactly, we will not be even close to equally as powerful.

Talvisota!!!(Turns on Sabaton)

Anyway, as long as the weather holds my Cobra can cover our movements quite effectively. I just worry about the Migs. Also it is 1982 so the Hellfire is brand new. I will most likely have ITOWs which are slower and have a shorter range so engaging armor is going to be quite dangerous.

Yeah, we have a few problems... The front we are covering is wide, stretched thin, and the Soviets only have to puncture one point to overrun our positions. The area is densely forested, so infantry is going to be of some use, but we can expect limited help from the air. I hope we'll use the British tactic of 'letting the Russians pass, before attacking them in the sides'. That way, we have an idea of their positions, so the Cobra can rain fire.

[Australian Antarctica]

Talvisota!!!(Turns on Sabaton)

Anyway, as long as the weather holds my Cobra can cover our movements quite effectively. I just worry about the Migs. Also it is 1982 so the Hellfire is brand new. I will most likely have ITOWs which are slower and have a shorter range so engaging armor is going to be quite dangerous.

Yeah, we have a few problems... The front we are covering is wide, stretched thin, and the Soviets only have to puncture one point to overrun our positions. The area is densely forested, so infantry is going to be of some use, but we can expect limited help from the air. I hope we'll use the British tactic of 'letting the Russians pass, before attacking them in the sides'. That way, we have an idea of their positions, so the Cobra can rain fire.

I'm honestly unsure exactly where you will be deployed at first. Still looking over the satellite images of a few possible locations.

[Tayner]

Suicide bomber...

Redneck....


I'd like to get at least the last couple Co-Op spots filled and probably two platoons before starting the IC.

Nerd...

[Australian Antarctica]

Redneck....


I'd like to get at least the last couple Co-Op spots filled and probably two platoons before starting the IC.

Nerd...

*Insert Insult Here*.....

[True Christopia]

Tag. If I do apply I'm not sure how active I will be, i'm kinda juggling several things at the same time.

[Ubaria]

Tag.

[Totulga]

Yeah, we have a few problems... The front we are covering is wide, stretched thin, and the Soviets only have to puncture one point to overrun our positions. The area is densely forested, so infantry is going to be of some use, but we can expect limited help from the air. I hope we'll use the British tactic of 'letting the Russians pass, before attacking them in the sides'. That way, we have an idea of their positions, so the Cobra can rain fire.

I'm honestly unsure exactly where you will be deployed at first. Still looking over the satellite images of a few possible locations.

Lets not forget about the Finish military that in real life was on the Soviet side. The Finish might be small but they are no push over either, to discount them would be a mistake. On the other hand they can not win, not alone and in the long term. Though if it is winter we can hold a hell of a lot longer as large portions of the country become untraversable even for tracked vehicles and weather will keep aircraft often on the ground. If we are so lucky we will have to contend with Spetsnaz infiltration but the Russians would be forced onto small corridors of roads or improved trails.

Suicide bomber...

Redneck....


I'd like to get at least the last couple Co-Op spots filled and probably two platoons before starting the IC.

If you need a Co-Op I could be of help there, especially when it comes to weapon capabilities and their effects. Remember I am a helicopter with a small fuel supply and payload, half my Rping will be flying back and forward to rearm and refuel and then siting there for 20 minutes till I can take off again.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Yeah, we have a few problems... The front we are covering is wide, stretched thin, and the Soviets only have to puncture one point to overrun our positions. The area is densely forested, so infantry is going to be of some use, but we can expect limited help from the air. I hope we'll use the British tactic of 'letting the Russians pass, before attacking them in the sides'. That way, we have an idea of their positions, so the Cobra can rain fire.

I'm honestly unsure exactly where you will be deployed at first. Still looking over the satellite images of a few possible locations.

Hmmm... it depends on where we were stationed before the attack, and how long it has been since the Russians attacked first. If little time has passed, I would propose a defensive line across the Great Lakes, going from Hamina-Taavetti-Lemi-Taipalsaari-Puumala-Sulkava-Savonlinna-Savonranta-Joensuu and upwards. If it has been more time since the first attack, our best bet would be to dig in around Joensuu, Varkaus and Mikkeli as central locations, defending Kouvola and Kotka to keep safe Helsinki. At last, we could fall back to Helsinki and Tampere, but by then, the case would be pretty lost, and we would have to prepare the defence of Sweden as a more important ally.

[Tayner]

Nerd...

*Insert Insult Here*.....

Sergeant

[Australian Antarctica]

I'm honestly unsure exactly where you will be deployed at first. Still looking over the satellite images of a few possible locations.

Hmmm... it depends on where we were stationed before the attack, and how long it has been since the Russians attacked first. If little time has passed, I would propose a defensive line across the Great Lakes, going from Hamina-Taavetti-Lemi-Taipalsaari-Puumala-Sulkava-Savonlinna-Savonranta-Joensuu and upwards. If it has been more time since the first attack, our best bet would be to dig in around Joensuu, Varkaus and Mikkeli as central locations, defending Kouvola and Kotka to keep safe Helsinki. At last, we could fall back to Helsinki and Tampere, but by then, the case would be pretty lost, and we would have to prepare the defence of Sweden as a more important ally.

Hmm, all very good ideas. Mind drawing up a simple map to show me what you are exactly thinking?


As for the Finnish Military in this RP we are going to deviate slightly from real life and make it so they are on NATO's side due to the Russian invasion.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Hmmm... it depends on where we were stationed before the attack, and how long it has been since the Russians attacked first. If little time has passed, I would propose a defensive line across the Great Lakes, going from Hamina-Taavetti-Lemi-Taipalsaari-Puumala-Sulkava-Savonlinna-Savonranta-Joensuu and upwards. If it has been more time since the first attack, our best bet would be to dig in around Joensuu, Varkaus and Mikkeli as central locations, defending Kouvola and Kotka to keep safe Helsinki. At last, we could fall back to Helsinki and Tampere, but by then, the case would be pretty lost, and we would have to prepare the defence of Sweden as a more important ally.

Hmm, all very good ideas. Mind drawing up a simple map to show me what you are exactly thinking?


As for the Finnish Military in this RP we are going to deviate slightly from real life and make it so they are on NATO's side due to the Russian invasion.

Sure I can. For a small explanation:

1. Purple dotted lines are NATO defences, with every line to the west being a later stage of defence.
2. The purple arrows are our escape routes to Sweden, should we ever come to fail in our mission.
3. The red arrows indicate Soviet modes of attack, the way I would've commanded them. They lead through centres of transportation, and they try to encircle Helsinki and cut off the escape route over land to Sweden.
4. Red parachutes are Russian airmobilbe divisions. The red numbers next to them indicate in what stage of the battle they could be deployed to the fullest effect to support the main Soviet advance. Of course, their actual deployment would depend on the speed of the Soviet main attack forces and the range of their transport craft. Their aircraft carrier capability in the Baltic is also of greatest interest.

[Australian Antarctica]

Hmm, all very good ideas. Mind drawing up a simple map to show me what you are exactly thinking?


As for the Finnish Military in this RP we are going to deviate slightly from real life and make it so they are on NATO's side due to the Russian invasion.

Sure I can. For a small explanation:

1. Purple dotted lines are NATO defences, with every line to the west being a later stage of defence.
2. The purple arrows are our escape routes to Sweden, should we ever come to fail in our mission.
3. The red arrows indicate Soviet modes of attack, the way I would've commanded them. They lead through centres of transportation, and they try to encircle Helsinki and cut off the escape route over land to Sweden.
4. Red parachutes are Russian airmobilbe divisions. The red numbers next to them indicate in what stage of the battle they could be deployed to the fullest effect to support the main Soviet advance. Of course, their actual deployment would depend on the speed of the Soviet main attack forces and the range of their transport craft. Their aircraft carrier capability in the Baltic is also of greatest interest.

Very detailed and very good. The only location I was honestly thinking about deploying our troops at was Sodankylä. 3 Major roads intersect there and it is fairly far north as to give us a chance to retreat into Norway or Sweden.

[Ubaria]

Would a UH-1C come under attack or support role?

[Australian Antarctica]

Would a UH-1C come under attack or support role?

That's a tough one. I would say Attack though, mainly because it is the gunship variant.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

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Sure I can. For a small explanation:

1. Purple dotted lines are NATO defences, with every line to the west being a later stage of defence.
2. The purple arrows are our escape routes to Sweden, should we ever come to fail in our mission.
3. The red arrows indicate Soviet modes of attack, the way I would've commanded them. They lead through centres of transportation, and they try to encircle Helsinki and cut off the escape route over land to Sweden.
4. Red parachutes are Russian airmobilbe divisions. The red numbers next to them indicate in what stage of the battle they could be deployed to the fullest effect to support the main Soviet advance. Of course, their actual deployment would depend on the speed of the Soviet main attack forces and the range of their transport craft. Their aircraft carrier capability in the Baltic is also of greatest interest.

Very detailed and very good. The only location I was honestly thinking about deploying our troops at was Sodankylä. 3 Major roads intersect there and it is fairly far north as to give us a chance to retreat into Norway or Sweden.

Right. That way, we would leave Finland to her faith, because nothing interesting happens up North. All Finland's important parts are down South, along the coast. Yet, we would be protecting the land route into Sweden, which would be a far more important ally to us. So, it would be a strategically sound position to place us in. We would sacrifice Finland Proper for the greater good, so to speak. Yet, the Soviets can just pass us to the South, so we wouldn't really be protecting anything. Besides, retreating into Lapland in march is not recommended. What goes for Russia in the Winter Months goes for Lapland in the spring. If you want a good defensible position with the possibility of retreat, I would suggest Kemi and the crossing over the Kemijoki river. Good defensible, the main route from Finland into Sweden, with possible escape down into the Swedish lake area. Let's hope the Soviets use their amphibious vehicles more in Denmark and Germany than in Scandinavia, though...

[Australian Antarctica]

Very detailed and very good. The only location I was honestly thinking about deploying our troops at was Sodankylä. 3 Major roads intersect there and it is fairly far north as to give us a chance to retreat into Norway or Sweden.

Right. That way, we would leave Finland to her faith, because nothing interesting happens up North. All Finland's important parts are down South, along the coast. Yet, we would be protecting the land route into Sweden, which would be a far more important ally to us. So, it would be a strategically sound position to place us in. We would sacrifice Finland Proper for the greater good, so to speak. Yet, the Soviets can just pass us to the South, so we wouldn't really be protecting anything. Besides, retreating into Lapland in march is not recommended. What goes for Russia in the Winter Months goes for Lapland in the spring. If you want a good defensible position with the possibility of retreat, I would suggest Kemi and the crossing over the Kemijoki river. Good defensible, the main route from Finland into Sweden, with possible escape down into the Swedish lake area. Let's hope the Soviets use their amphibious vehicles more in Denmark and Germany than in Scandinavia, though...

Bloody hell...

Mind if we go ahead with your map and plan? In fact, would you like to also be a Platoon Commander and Co-Op?

[Armeia]

I'd suggest setting up more in the west... The Soviets are going to outnumber us too much in the west, it's more defensible to hang back, absorb wave one of the attack, and then go forward afterwards.

[Totulga]

Right. That way, we would leave Finland to her faith, because nothing interesting happens up North. All Finland's important parts are down South, along the coast. Yet, we would be protecting the land route into Sweden, which would be a far more important ally to us. So, it would be a strategically sound position to place us in. We would sacrifice Finland Proper for the greater good, so to speak. Yet, the Soviets can just pass us to the South, so we wouldn't really be protecting anything. Besides, retreating into Lapland in march is not recommended. What goes for Russia in the Winter Months goes for Lapland in the spring. If you want a good defensible position with the possibility of retreat, I would suggest Kemi and the crossing over the Kemijoki river. Good defensible, the main route from Finland into Sweden, with possible escape down into the Swedish lake area. Let's hope the Soviets use their amphibious vehicles more in Denmark and Germany than in Scandinavia, though...

Bloody hell...

Mind if we go ahead with your map and plan? In fact, would you like to also be a Platoon Commander and Co-Op?

I support this idea. No reason to die fighting an undefensible position when we could fall back and hold something that makes sense.

[Australian Antarctica]

Bloody hell...

Mind if we go ahead with your map and plan? In fact, would you like to also be a Platoon Commander and Co-Op?

I support this idea. No reason to die fighting an undefensible position when we could fall back and hold something that makes sense.

Yeah, I do not know what I was thinking. I guess I'm still used to more Naval strategies rather than Land.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Right. That way, we would leave Finland to her faith, because nothing interesting happens up North. All Finland's important parts are down South, along the coast. Yet, we would be protecting the land route into Sweden, which would be a far more important ally to us. So, it would be a strategically sound position to place us in. We would sacrifice Finland Proper for the greater good, so to speak. Yet, the Soviets can just pass us to the South, so we wouldn't really be protecting anything. Besides, retreating into Lapland in march is not recommended. What goes for Russia in the Winter Months goes for Lapland in the spring. If you want a good defensible position with the possibility of retreat, I would suggest Kemi and the crossing over the Kemijoki river. Good defensible, the main route from Finland into Sweden, with possible escape down into the Swedish lake area. Let's hope the Soviets use their amphibious vehicles more in Denmark and Germany than in Scandinavia, though...

Bloody hell...

Mind if we go ahead with your map and plan? In fact, would you like to also be a Platoon Commander and Co-Op?

All fine and dandy with me! Shall I app for a platoon forthwith?

Also, sorry for throwing out such a huge mess of text at once. I should bring these things more casually. Spread it like butter, instead of loading it like a musket ball. My initial map-plan involves a lot more trees, a lot more lakes, and a lot more pretty scenery. The Kemi-plan involves digging in in a town around a bridge, fighting in the bombed-out ruins of a pittoresk European town. The choice is yours.

I support this idea. No reason to die fighting an undefensible position when we could fall back and hold something that makes sense.

Yeah, I do not know what I was thinking. I guess I'm still used to more Naval strategies rather than Land.

Which is fine and dandy, admiral, for I am pretty useless at seaborne warfare. So much water, so little roads. How does one find a navy in the Atlantic? But we'll need that, too. The Baltic isn't frozen over, I'm afraid, and the Soviets have naval forces in Petersburg and near Nova Zembla.

[Australian Antarctica]

Bloody hell...

Mind if we go ahead with your map and plan? In fact, would you like to also be a Platoon Commander and Co-Op?

All fine and dandy with me! Shall I app for a platoon forthwith?

Also, sorry for throwing out such a huge mess of text at once. I should bring these things more casually. Spread it like butter, instead of loading it like a musket ball. My initial map-plan involves a lot more trees, a lot more lakes, and a lot more pretty scenery. The Kemi-plan involves digging in in a town around a bridge, fighting in the bombed-out ruins of a pittoresk European town. The choice is yours.

Yeah, I do not know what I was thinking. I guess I'm still used to more Naval strategies rather than Land.

Which is fine and dandy, admiral, for I am pretty useless at seaborne warfare. So much water, so little roads. How does one find a navy in the Atlantic? But we'll need that, too. The Baltic isn't frozen over, I'm afraid, and the Soviets have naval forces in Petersburg and near Nova Zembla.

Want to just control the 1st Platoon leader?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

That's alright with me, really. One platoon, I can manage that. Giving as little direct orders as possible, as you instructed... This will be fine.

Platoon App:
Nation Name: GCCS
Platoon Type: Infantry
Platoon Nationality: UK
Platoon Leader: Lt. James Harrison
Platoon Sections:
1st Rifle Section, Scots, ‘Jacobites’
2nd Rifle Section, English, ‘Roundheads’
3rd Rifle Section, English, ‘Cavaliers’
RP Examples: Got one in already. Keep up, will you…

[Ubaria]

Helicopter App
Nation Name: Ubaria
Helicopter Type: UH-1C Gunship
Helicopter Nationality: American
Helicopter Pilot(s): Thomas Miles, Micheal O' Hearn
Helicopter Crew: Desmond Jackson, Preston Harris
RP Examples:
Halo Eclipse
Hounds of Heaven

[Australian Antarctica]

Both accepted.