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by United RussoAsia » Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:22 pm
by Flash of Riptide » Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:30 pm
Sainterre wrote:And immortalize the actions of people who simply were opportunistic.
Sainterre wrote:Your proposal doesn't event deal with UGR, who was a principal figure in this.
Sainterre wrote:Your proposal starts with the actions of Harenhime and ends with Harenhime.
Sainterre wrote:Harenhime was not the first delegate when the founder CTEd.
Sainterre wrote:I don't think that you have the experience necessary to write a proposal like this because, to my knowledge, you weren't there to experience the initial events.
United RussoAsia wrote:Best to let TBR die.
The "natives" should leave the region, as I've not much respect for them trying to salvage that sinking ship. The actual natives have moved on. I'm ok with that.
by United RussoAsia » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:04 am
Flash of Riptide wrote:United RussoAsia wrote:Best to let TBR die.
The "natives" should leave the region, as I've not much respect for them trying to salvage that sinking ship. The actual natives have moved on. I'm ok with that.
For what it's worth, the current government and endorsements are not going to leave TBR. Would you like DEN to seize it once again as a trophy?
by Australian Antarctica » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:05 am
Deramen wrote:Cause if anything im a MOTHERFUCKING T-REX!
by United RussoAsia » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:37 pm
Australian Antarctica wrote:United RussoAsia wrote:That region is tainted by cheating. I will not work with or recognise it's inhabitants, whoever they maybe be.
That's like saying you won't recognize, well, pick any country throughout history. They've all done bad. The US, Russia, Germany, the Koreas, China., Etc.
by Australian Antarctica » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:46 pm
United RussoAsia wrote:Australian Antarctica wrote:That's like saying you won't recognize, well, pick any country throughout history. They've all done bad. The US, Russia, Germany, the Koreas, China., Etc.
This is a game in which there are cheaters. I will not recognise them. Raiding is bad, but legitimate. I will recognise them.
Nor will I recognise forum destroyers and those that harbour them.
Deramen wrote:Cause if anything im a MOTHERFUCKING T-REX!
by Flash of Riptide » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:49 pm
by Sainterre » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:07 pm
Flash of Riptide wrote:For all intents and purposes, as AA has said multiple times, TBR is no longer composed of the same people. The raiding community has moved on to DEN.
As the condemnation for TBR's past actions remain in place due to their relevancy at the time of that proposal's passing, it should remain there, much like how Macedon's condemnation still exists.
by Australian Antarctica » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:09 pm
Sainterre wrote:Flash of Riptide wrote:For all intents and purposes, as AA has said multiple times, TBR is no longer composed of the same people. The raiding community has moved on to DEN.
As the condemnation for TBR's past actions remain in place due to their relevancy at the time of that proposal's passing, it should remain there, much like how Macedon's condemnation still exists.
And as AA said, they don't think that they are worthy of a commendation before, so your case is even weaker.
Deramen wrote:Cause if anything im a MOTHERFUCKING T-REX!
by Australian Antarctica » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:22 pm
Ridersyl wrote:Here's a better reason:
You guys haven't even come close to earning a Commendation yet.
Deramen wrote:Cause if anything im a MOTHERFUCKING T-REX!
by Flash of Riptide » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:27 pm
by Sainterre » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:35 pm
Flash of Riptide wrote:The first is obvious; the second, those who are about to be commended will be more likely to act humble in situations others would not.
by New Grestin » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:37 pm
Let’s not dwell on our corpse strewn past. Let’s celebrate our corpse strewn future!
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by Australian Antarctica » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:38 pm
New Grestin wrote:Entirely opposed. We already did this dance, like, last week. It's getting rather old, rather quickly.
Deramen wrote:Cause if anything im a MOTHERFUCKING T-REX!
by RiderSyl » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:59 pm
Flash of Riptide wrote:The words of both former raiders smarting about the loss of their beloved region and the members of the current government do not count in a commendation (for different reasons). The first is obvious
by Ramaeus » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:01 pm
Flash of Riptide wrote:-sip-
by Naginii » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:30 am
by The Forsworn Knights » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:33 am
Flash of Riptide wrote:Australian Antarctica wrote:As a resident, and the head drafter of the constitution, I oppose this bill. Not because we are not doing good, but because we have not done anything good enough to deserve and commendation. All we are doing is rebuilding, nothing more. We haven't helped liberate or defend any other regions, nor do we really continue the fight against DEN. Please, do not make it appear as if we are glory-hounds. We are not. I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to eventually have a commendation, once we have earned it. That's my two cents, nitpick it as you wish.
As a non-resident of the region and having no connection with the current government, I'm not a glory-hound to say this:
The delegate, Constitution framers, and government officials are doing something that hasn't been done ever. By having your presence in the region, you are still continuing the fight against DEN. The region has earned its commendation for already marking its place in the history books. Former TBR members may shrug the victory off with excuses such as "raiding doesn't need a region, only a community", but will jump at the chance of taking the region back if any flaw in regional security is discovered. Defenders may scoff at the idea of you occupying TBR, but at the end of the day, did they ever step up to endorse UGR when Ridersyl attempted a defense? An infinitesimal number. It was a victory for the NS community, the majority of them being natives wanting to be left alone. These nations are often marginalized in greater NS affairs, but they are the ones who form its core, keep the game running, and continue to fight their harassers at every given chance.
by United RussoAsia » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:04 am
Australian Antarctica wrote:I just wish people would have a better reason to be against it than "TBR Cheated" or "TBR Bad"
by Arctriul » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:33 am
by United RussoAsia » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:46 am
Arctriul wrote:This is commending a group for removing a region's sovereignty. so...again...not voting for this. xD
by Arctriul » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:48 am
by United RussoAsia » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:35 pm
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