by Galiantus II » Sat May 30, 2015 11:54 am
by Alcase » Sat May 30, 2015 11:56 am
by Llamalandia » Sat May 30, 2015 12:46 pm
Galiantus II wrote:I could not find a thread discussing this, but I think it is worth talking about.
Senator Rand Paul has successfully pushed the Patriot Act to the edge of existence. The Patriot Act is a bill which was passed shortly after 9/11, and gives some U.S. security and law enforcement organizations access to more information. This was intended to help fight terrorism.
Rand Paul is opposed to the patriot act on the basis that it is a violation of the fourth amendment to the U.S. constitution, which requires respect for U.S. citizens' right to privacy in all federal laws. The patriot act expires tomorrow, at midnight, unless it can gain over 60% of the vote in the U.S. Senate. This is nigh impossible, because support and opposition for the patriot act cuts across party lines. For example, when Senator Paul (a republican) was fighting against the patriot act last week, he had support from seven democrats.
It is very likely the Patriot Act will meet its demise within the next 36 hours. Personally, I am in full support of that happening.
by Confederate Ramenia » Sat May 30, 2015 12:47 pm
Llamalandia wrote:Galiantus II wrote:I could not find a thread discussing this, but I think it is worth talking about.
Senator Rand Paul has successfully pushed the Patriot Act to the edge of existence. The Patriot Act is a bill which was passed shortly after 9/11, and gives some U.S. security and law enforcement organizations access to more information. This was intended to help fight terrorism.
Rand Paul is opposed to the patriot act on the basis that it is a violation of the fourth amendment to the U.S. constitution, which requires respect for U.S. citizens' right to privacy in all federal laws. The patriot act expires tomorrow, at midnight, unless it can gain over 60% of the vote in the U.S. Senate. This is nigh impossible, because support and opposition for the patriot act cuts across party lines. For example, when Senator Paul (a republican) was fighting against the patriot act last week, he had support from seven democrats.
It is very likely the Patriot Act will meet its demise within the next 36 hours. Personally, I am in full support of that happening.
i'm surprised it is only seven dems on his side. Perhaps more plan to vote against it. If they don't I think they have to return their aclu membership cards.
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by Pope Joan » Sat May 30, 2015 12:52 pm
by Galiantus II » Sat May 30, 2015 12:55 pm
Pope Joan wrote:Obama wasted his weekly radio address by urging support for the Patriot Act redux.
Shame on him.
It does amaze me how the GOP can revile him so much, when he is so much like them.
by Charlotte Ryberg » Sat May 30, 2015 1:41 pm
by Llamalandia » Sat May 30, 2015 1:42 pm
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Unfortunately, supporting the Patriot Act is likely to be a sure way to ruin your political career.
by Geilinor » Sat May 30, 2015 2:53 pm
Pope Joan wrote:Obama wasted his weekly radio address by urging support for the Patriot Act redux.
Shame on him.
It does amaze me how the GOP can revile him so much, when he is so much like them.
by Kaboomlandia » Sat May 30, 2015 3:03 pm
by Llamalandia » Sat May 30, 2015 3:16 pm
by Charlotte Ryberg » Sat May 30, 2015 3:40 pm
by Llamalandia » Sat May 30, 2015 3:41 pm
by Ostroeuropa » Sat May 30, 2015 3:49 pm
by San Lumen » Sun May 31, 2015 6:53 am
by Dragonia Re Xzua » Sun May 31, 2015 11:55 pm
As a new day comes to Washington, the U.S. government now officially finds itself with fewer tools to investigate terrorism.
President Barack Obama and government officials spent last week warning of serious national security consequences...
Attorney General Loretta Lynch said last week the United States would face a "serious lapse" in national security.
Officials say the rising threat of lone wolves -- including those inspired by ISIS, but not ordered -- raises the need to maintain that provision of the Patriot Act.
by Utrinque Paratus » Sun May 31, 2015 11:58 pm
by Stormaen » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:14 am
Alcase wrote:The U.S. Senate should strike down any talk of reviving the Patriot Act and allow its death,
It should have never been passed.
by Bombadil » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:15 am
by The Neo-Hellenic Republic » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:19 am
by Stormaen » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:19 am
Pope Joan wrote:Obama wasted his weekly radio address by urging support for the Patriot Act redux.
Shame on him.
It does amaze me how the GOP can revile him so much, when he is so much like them.
by Stormaen » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:23 am
Dragonia Re Xzua wrote:The unconstitutional section of the Patriot Act in question has expired.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/30/politics/ ... ns-expire/
And suddenly, fear mongers.As a new day comes to Washington, the U.S. government now officially finds itself with fewer tools to investigate terrorism.President Barack Obama and government officials spent last week warning of serious national security consequences...Attorney General Loretta Lynch said last week the United States would face a "serious lapse" in national security.Officials say the rising threat of lone wolves -- including those inspired by ISIS, but not ordered -- raises the need to maintain that provision of the Patriot Act.
The new "Freedom Act" is nothing more than a band-aid for the NSA, one in which it doesn't need.
by West Aurelia » Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:57 am
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by Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:04 am
West Aurelia wrote:The Patriot Act didn't sunset - only Sections 206 (roving wiretap provision) and 215 (library records provision). Section 6001 (lone wolf provision) of the IRPTA also expired as it was tied to the expiration of the other two.
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