Insaeldor wrote:Novus America wrote:
Unlike WWII, Germany was no worse than the Entente. Sure they did some bad things, but so did the Entente. Had Germany won in WWI, there would have been no WWII, no Holocaust, no Holodomor. Literally nearly 100 million lives saved. Also the Middle East probably would not be so screwed up. Sure you would have a German dominated Europe, but that happened anyway.
Well I think we've got another history discussion thread
Any ways I'll just leave it at america had no reason to involve itself in Europe war. Plus the aftermath would have been far worse if the U.S. went to the Germans lossing side. Sure the Imperial Getman army was possible the best army of the 20th century but the descent in the ranks, food shortages, and increased influence of anti-war Leftist were all contributubg to Getmans downfall far more harshly then it was in France and England. Seriously though I'm actually glade Wilson negotiated it the way he did i have little reason to believe the Entante would have been nicer to Germany. Let's also not forget the colapse of the Ottamans and Austro-Hungarians was executable even if the Central Powers won and England and France would have carved in all the same. Plus you have the Zimmermen Telegraph basically asking Mexico to Invade the U.S. so the Germans didn't have to deal with America and the unrestricted submarine warfare waged by the Germans kinda pushed our alleginces as well.
Had the U.S. sided with Germany at the beginning... And Germany in WWI is a perfect case of how NOT to do diplomacy. The Zimmerman telegraph episode was definitely one of the dumbest diplomatic blunders in history. Well we will have to make this another thread. Like I said in retrospect. We could not have known at the time. But this relates back to the Vietnam War, in that in retrospect the Vietnam War was all for nothing.
The irony is what seemed to be the best way to accomplish an objective at the time was actually working against it. Same as in WWI.
In Vietnam we won (edit: almost, well depends on how you define winning) every battle, but lost the war, but Communism was still defeated in Vietnam.
Nobody could have predicted that.