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Which Candidate Do You Support?

Ted Cruz
20
3%
Marco Rubio
65
11%
Rand Paul
98
17%
Ben Carson
53
9%
Carly Fiorina
18
3%
Jeb Bush
31
5%
Chris Christie
9
2%
John Kasich
42
7%
Donald Trump
151
26%
Someone else
92
16%
 
Total votes : 579

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Judah
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Judah » Fri May 29, 2015 2:13 am

Sebtopiaris wrote:It must be hard for you to be so fucking edgy, darling.

Here? Not really. If I disagree with anyone or refuse to participate in the inescapable left-wing circle jerk, I'm either "edgy" or a "fascist".
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Fri May 29, 2015 2:15 am

Judah wrote:
Sebtopiaris wrote:It must be hard for you to be so fucking edgy, darling.

Here? Not really. If I disagree with anyone or refuse to participate in the inescapable left-wing circle jerk, I'm either "edgy" or a "fascist".

I'd say flaming people and saying that the forum would be better if it weren't public is pretty edgy, doll.
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Unnoticed Canada
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Postby Unnoticed Canada » Fri May 29, 2015 2:17 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Unnoticed Canada wrote:
Only other option. I refuse to endorse Hillary Clinton. Besides, America could do with some democratic socialism. I know he won't win the primary, and I do hope he keeps his Senate seat.

You're talking to a dude who supports a nutter who thinks gays are pedophiles and Obamacare is worse than slavery and akin to Nazi Germany.

Don't waste your breath.

I sincerely hope she's not that bad.
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Postby Laanvia » Fri May 29, 2015 3:00 am

Judah wrote:
Unnoticed Canada wrote:(I'm an Democrat edgy moron if you can't tell. #BernieSanders2016)

Fixed.

Pro-Carson. Half of these people don't stand a chance. Santorum, Perry, and Trump must be bored.

That post counts both Malicious Editing and Flaming, which are both warnable offences.

He is entitled to his opinion, so how about you get the fuck over it?
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Judah
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Postby Judah » Fri May 29, 2015 3:15 am

Unnoticed Canada wrote:Besides, America could do with some democratic socialism. I know he won't win the primary, and I do hope he keeps his Senate seat.

The US doesn't need democratic socialism... at all. I'm still waiting for someone who's economically competent to be elected. The Americans haven't had anyone like that in awhile.

I'm sure he'll keep his seat. I still don't know how he got it in the first place.

The Nuclear Fist wrote:You're talking to a dude who supports a nutter who thinks gays are pedophiles and Obamacare is worse than slavery and akin to Nazi Germany.

Don't waste your breath.

Am I a "dude" or a "doll"? Also, I'm aware of the quotes which you're referring to, and you're twisting his words around... or repeating what someone else said without bothering to check if Dr. Carson actually said those things. Probably the latter.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri May 29, 2015 4:06 am

Judah wrote:
Unnoticed Canada wrote:(I'm an Democrat edgy moron if you can't tell. #BernieSanders2016)

Fixed.

Pro-Carson. Half of these people don't stand a chance. Santorum, Perry, and Trump must be bored.


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Postby Ashmoria » Fri May 29, 2015 5:08 am

Tsaraine wrote:So apparently Donald Trump is seriously planning a Presidential bid. I'm not sure what to think of this. I mean, nobody except Trump actually likes Trump, and even being filthy rich can't buy you the Presidency when you have the degree of negative charisma Trump has. I almost want to see him try, just to see his inevitable and rapid descent in flames.


I don't think he is. his TV show is on the fall schedule.
whatever

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Fri May 29, 2015 5:14 am

Judah wrote:Am I a "dude" or a "doll"?

Baby, you're everything and nothing. You're the whole world on top of the bee's knees. Don't matter to me none what you are, I ain't discriminatory or a bigot, unlike Carson. :kiss:

Also, I'm aware of the quotes which you're referring to, and you're twisting his words around... or repeating what someone else said without bothering to check if Dr. Carson actually said those things. Probably the latter.

Then by all means, directly quote him and give context for his comments, and explain what he meant. I mean, obviously you know better, so it shouldn't be too hard.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .
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Postby Bottle » Fri May 29, 2015 5:16 am

I find most of the Republican contenders equally hilarious. However, I hope Jeb Bush doesn't win, because that is likely to leave us with a national race between a Bush and a Clinton. There has been a Bush or a Clinton in the White House for more than half my lifetime at this point, and I'd like to at least sometimes pretend that America isn't under hereditary rule by the aristocracy.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Fri May 29, 2015 5:19 am

Bottle wrote:I find most of the Republican contenders equally hilarious. However, I hope Jeb Bush doesn't win, because that is likely to leave us with a national race between a Bush and a Clinton. There has been a Bush or a Clinton in the White House for more than half my lifetime at this point, and I'd like to at least sometimes pretend that America isn't under hereditary rule by the aristocracy.

I look forward to him in the debates. He seems the type to get easily flustered. Doesn't help that he looks like someone put a bad wig and glasses on a ham loaf, though.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .
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Patridam
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Postby Patridam » Fri May 29, 2015 5:23 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Romalae wrote:Interestingly, a Quinnipiac poll released today shows that five of the leading Republican candidates are tied at 10% support:

10% Jeb Bush
10% Marco Rubio
10% Scott Walker
10% Mike Huckabee
10% Ben Carson

7% Rand Paul
6% Ted Cruz
5% Donald Trump
4% Chris Christie
2% John Kasich
2% Carly Fiorina
1% Rick Perry
1% Bobby Jindal

Obviously this is subject to change, but it certainly reinforces the notion that there is no clear GOP frontrunner. What do you think of these results and who do you think stands the best chance out of the top five?


I think I might be sick


I'm not so sure about the validity of this poll; I mean, Ben Carson ahead of Rand Paul seems rather suspect.
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The Nuclear Fist
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Fri May 29, 2015 5:25 am

Patridam wrote:I'm not so sure about the validity of this poll; I mean, Ben Carson ahead of Rand Paul seems rather suspect.

It isn't necessarily off, though. Remember 2012, when every flavor of the month nutter would surge ahead of Romney for a few weeks before promptly being toppled?
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .
THE ABSOLUTTM MADMAN ESCAPES JUSTICE ONCE MORE

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Postby Ashmoria » Fri May 29, 2015 5:33 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Bottle wrote:I find most of the Republican contenders equally hilarious. However, I hope Jeb Bush doesn't win, because that is likely to leave us with a national race between a Bush and a Clinton. There has been a Bush or a Clinton in the White House for more than half my lifetime at this point, and I'd like to at least sometimes pretend that America isn't under hereditary rule by the aristocracy.

I look forward to him in the debates. He seems the type to get easily flustered. Doesn't help that he looks like someone put a bad wig and glasses on a ham loaf, though.

everybody sucks right now. the process of campaigning will polish them up, especially jeb. he'll get all his answers down pat and practice debating until he's pretty good at it.
whatever

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Unnoticed Canada
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Postby Unnoticed Canada » Fri May 29, 2015 9:39 am

Romalae wrote:Interestingly, a Quinnipiac poll released today shows that five of the leading Republican candidates are tied at 10% support:

10% Jeb Bush
10% Marco Rubio
10% Scott Walker
10% Mike Huckabee
10% Ben Carson

7% Rand Paul
6% Ted Cruz
5% Donald Trump
4% Chris Christie
2% John Kasich
2% Carly Fiorina
1% Rick Perry
1% Bobby Jindal

Obviously this is subject to change, but it certainly reinforces the notion that there is no clear GOP frontrunner. What do you think of these results and who do you think stands the best chance out of the top five?


The only good news to come out of this poll is that Christie outperforms Perry, and Paul outperforms Cruz. The fact that Ben being-gay-is-a-choice-ps-I-have-no-experience Carson, Jeb my-brother-whom-almost-started-world-war-three-will-be-making-foreign-policy-decisions-for-me Bush, Marco gender-equality-is-wasting-time, Scott unions-are-like-terrorists Walker, or Mike biblebelt-abortionismurder-soarecondoms-authoritarian-noseparationofchurchandstate Huckabee can poll at the top of a major party, and they have very good chances of single-handedly destroying the country, quite possibly the world.
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Postby Glorious KASSRD » Fri May 29, 2015 9:43 am

Unnoticed Canada wrote:
Romalae wrote:Interestingly, a Quinnipiac poll released today shows that five of the leading Republican candidates are tied at 10% support:

10% Jeb Bush
10% Marco Rubio
10% Scott Walker
10% Mike Huckabee
10% Ben Carson

7% Rand Paul
6% Ted Cruz
5% Donald Trump
4% Chris Christie
2% John Kasich
2% Carly Fiorina
1% Rick Perry
1% Bobby Jindal

Obviously this is subject to change, but it certainly reinforces the notion that there is no clear GOP frontrunner. What do you think of these results and who do you think stands the best chance out of the top five?


The only good news to come out of this poll is that Christie outperforms Perry, and Paul outperforms Cruz. The fact that Ben being-gay-is-a-choice-ps-I-have-no-experience Carson, Jeb my-brother-whom-almost-started-world-war-three-will-be-making-foreign-policy-decisions-for-me Bush, Marco gender-equality-is-wasting-time, Scott unions-are-like-terrorists Walker, or Mike biblebelt-abortionismurder-soarecondoms-authoritarian-noseparationofchurchandstate Huckabee can poll at the top of a major party, and they have very good chances of single-handedly destroying the country, quite possibly the world.

Yeah, the top candidates don't look very good. Any decent Republicans running yet?

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri May 29, 2015 10:42 am

Glorious KASSRD wrote:
Unnoticed Canada wrote:
The only good news to come out of this poll is that Christie outperforms Perry, and Paul outperforms Cruz. The fact that Ben being-gay-is-a-choice-ps-I-have-no-experience Carson, Jeb my-brother-whom-almost-started-world-war-three-will-be-making-foreign-policy-decisions-for-me Bush, Marco gender-equality-is-wasting-time, Scott unions-are-like-terrorists Walker, or Mike biblebelt-abortionismurder-soarecondoms-authoritarian-noseparationofchurchandstate Huckabee can poll at the top of a major party, and they have very good chances of single-handedly destroying the country, quite possibly the world.

Yeah, the top candidates don't look very good. Any decent Republicans running yet?


Santorum is officially running!







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Postby Ashworth-Attwater » Fri May 29, 2015 11:22 am

Pataki/Kashkari 2016
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 11:23 am

Glorious KASSRD wrote:Yeah, the top candidates don't look very good. Any decent Republicans running yet?

> implying there are decent republicans

lol
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Postby Romalae » Fri May 29, 2015 11:33 am

Ashworth-Attwater wrote:Pataki/Kashkari 2016

You want this man to be vice president?
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri May 29, 2015 12:03 pm

Romalae wrote:
Ashworth-Attwater wrote:Pataki/Kashkari 2016

You want this man to be vice president?
Image


Holy crap.

I never realized it before, even when he was running for governor out here, but he's essentially the baddie from Star Trek: Nemesis.

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Postby Glorious KASSRD » Fri May 29, 2015 5:37 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Glorious KASSRD wrote:Yeah, the top candidates don't look very good. Any decent Republicans running yet?

> implying there are decent republicans

lol

Well, with tens of millions of Republicans, I'm sure al least some of them would make good presidents. The problems is that Fox News and the leadership has decided Extremely insanely Right is the only good way, preventing more moderate and rational Republicans from running.

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Postby Kelinfort » Fri May 29, 2015 5:56 pm

Chafee/Pataki is my choice. But that would take a sex scandal that implicates the entirety of both party's candidates in an orgy of epic proportions.

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Postby Genivaria » Fri May 29, 2015 5:58 pm

Glorious KASSRD wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:> implying there are decent republicans

lol

Well, with tens of millions of Republicans, I'm sure al least some of them would make good presidents. The problems is that Fox News and the leadership has decided Extremely insanely Right is the only good way, preventing more moderate and rational Republicans from running.

Win the primary, lose the general is now the GOP rule.

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Postby Northern Glacier League » Fri May 29, 2015 5:59 pm

Glorious KASSRD wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:> implying there are decent republicans

lol

Well, with tens of millions of Republicans, I'm sure al least some of them would make good presidents. The problems is that Fox News and the leadership has decided Extremely insanely Right is the only good way, preventing more moderate and rational Republicans from running.


What ever happened to the good-old-days of Nixon's Republican Party?
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri May 29, 2015 5:59 pm

Romalae wrote:Interestingly, a Quinnipiac poll released today shows that five of the leading Republican candidates are tied at 10% support:

10% Jeb Bush
10% Marco Rubio
10% Scott Walker
10% Mike Huckabee
10% Ben Carson

7% Rand Paul
6% Ted Cruz
5% Donald Trump
4% Chris Christie
2% John Kasich
2% Carly Fiorina
1% Rick Perry
1% Bobby Jindal

Obviously this is subject to change, but it certainly reinforces the notion that there is no clear GOP frontrunner. What do you think of these results and who do you think stands the best chance out of the top five?

That can't be right. There's no way Ben Carson has more support than Rand Paul. What the fuck.

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