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by The Commonwealth of Maine » Wed May 20, 2015 12:27 pm
by Defwa » Wed May 20, 2015 12:48 pm
The Dark Star Republic wrote:New Horensian Kingdom wrote:"There's one huge issue with repealing the whole act. The act also bans nations from criminalising sexual activity based on the sexes of those involved, as well as a ban on differing ages of consent based on sex. If we are to repeal the whole act because of one part, these protections for LGBT+ individuals will cease, and we could return to the dark ages of 'anti-sodomy' laws, not to mention the sexist myriad of issues in regards to differing ages of consent for each sex.
"Doubtful. We believe the Charter of Civil Rights would protect against discriminatory laws.I see that no one has proposed a new alternative act that would keep these protections in place
"Not yet. But we would commend (and unofficially endorse) the Alqanian draft on the subject."
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by The United Neptumousian Empire » Wed May 20, 2015 2:05 pm
by Kakhovske » Wed May 20, 2015 2:57 pm
by Statevia » Wed May 20, 2015 2:58 pm
by The Novakian Empire » Wed May 20, 2015 3:02 pm
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by KatieWooTheKickapoo » Wed May 20, 2015 3:08 pm
by The Dark Star Republic » Wed May 20, 2015 3:56 pm
Kakhovske wrote:I believe that it is of fundamental importance for people, and therefore the government, to respect how other people choose to live their lives, no matter how much it contravenes their own moral code.
As has already been raised, the use of contraception is possible
KatieWooTheKickapoo wrote:If the act is repealed, the World may encounter problems with governments intruding and unfairly banning previously protected rights, such as untraditional marriages.
If the repeal does not pass, we should try to instead pass an amendment to the existing act.
by Divon (Ancient) » Wed May 20, 2015 4:39 pm
by Danasterra » Wed May 20, 2015 4:42 pm
by The Dark Star Republic » Wed May 20, 2015 4:57 pm
Danasterra wrote:Fellow nations, please keep in mind the SPA does not INTEND to legalize or protect incest!
rather an amendment to the SPA should be made to allow free states to regulate incest on their own.
by The United Neptumousian Empire » Wed May 20, 2015 5:00 pm
Kakhovske wrote:I believe that it is of fundamental importance for people, and therefore the government, to respect how other people choose to live their lives, no matter how much it contravenes their own moral code. As has already been raised, the use of contraception is possible, while it is the responsability of the state to look after its citizens no matter what. For example, if someone gets drunk and ends up in hospital as a result, it would be outrageous to suggest that they should not be cared for, despite the fact it was probably their responsability. On these principles, I will oppose this.
by AquilaJordyn » Wed May 20, 2015 5:09 pm
by The Dark Star Republic » Wed May 20, 2015 5:10 pm
AquilaJordyn wrote:We cannot have amendments, as stated. For those member nation's concerned about legitimate sexual acts no longer being protected, this repeal would not stop a member nation from proposing a new bill to replace spa. This repeal is focused on incest.
by Knootoss » Wed May 20, 2015 5:48 pm
by Danasterra » Wed May 20, 2015 8:51 pm
by The Crystal North » Wed May 20, 2015 9:44 pm
by Frenequesta » Wed May 20, 2015 10:09 pm
by Thauria » Wed May 20, 2015 10:45 pm
The Commonwealth of Maine wrote:First, Governments will be able to limit incest, but then what? Homosexuality? Sodomy? Is this body really ready to allow Human Society to plunge backwards to archaic times in which sexual minorities are discriminated against by law?
VOTE: Nay
by The United Neptumousian Empire » Wed May 20, 2015 11:12 pm
The Crystal North wrote:While the Crystal North does understand the intentions of this proposal as being good, we regret that we cannot endorse it in its current form. As a nation dedicated to protecting the civil rights of its citizens, we cannot support any attempt to dictate how consenting individuals choose to express themselves.
by The Dark Star Republic » Thu May 21, 2015 12:22 am
The Crystal North wrote:Rather than prohibiting incest all together, we recommend amending the proposition to make governments offer genetic counseling to prospective parents.
by Land of Boggaire » Thu May 21, 2015 1:12 am
by The Dark Star Republic » Thu May 21, 2015 1:20 am
Land of Boggaire wrote:People should be free to enjoy concensual sex in their private lives, it should only be illegal to have a baby conceived by incest.
by Trinity Sector » Thu May 21, 2015 3:18 am
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