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by Imperializt Russia » Mon May 18, 2015 11:10 am
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:The Finnish soldiers who operated Lahti AT rifles were true men.
Can a modern anti-materiel rifle destroy a transport helicopter in flight?
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
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by Husseinarti » Mon May 18, 2015 11:10 am
by Tulacia » Mon May 18, 2015 11:21 am
Spirit of Hope wrote:Tulacia wrote:How effective are modern HESH shells? I'm still debating the use of a smoothbore or rifled gun, and the only benefit to a rifled gun seems to be the purpose of HESH.
HESH is still effective but has largely been replaced by HEAT and APFSDS. HESH doesn't work so well against modern armor because of the multiple layers and spacing used in modern tank armor. Less modern armor, and vehicles (or buildings) with less sophisticated vehicles will also be more susceptible.
by Imperializt Russia » Mon May 18, 2015 11:26 am
Tulacia wrote:Spirit of Hope wrote:HESH is still effective but has largely been replaced by HEAT and APFSDS. HESH doesn't work so well against modern armor because of the multiple layers and spacing used in modern tank armor. Less modern armor, and vehicles (or buildings) with less sophisticated vehicles will also be more susceptible.
Isn't HEAT not very effective either because of ERA? I thought HESH was basically a better HEAT shell, functioning like one but isn't ineffectuated by ERA.
So in the modern era HESH pretty much functions as a normal HE round.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Spirit of Hope » Mon May 18, 2015 11:29 am
Tulacia wrote:Spirit of Hope wrote:HESH is still effective but has largely been replaced by HEAT and APFSDS. HESH doesn't work so well against modern armor because of the multiple layers and spacing used in modern tank armor. Less modern armor, and vehicles (or buildings) with less sophisticated vehicles will also be more susceptible.
Isn't HEAT not very effective either because of ERA? I thought HESH was basically a better HEAT shell, functioning like one but isn't ineffectuated by ERA.
So in the modern era HESH pretty much functions as a normal HE round.
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by Imperializt Russia » Mon May 18, 2015 11:31 am
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Spirit of Hope » Mon May 18, 2015 11:32 am
Imperializt Russia wrote:HESH won't set off ERA, it has a very low impact velocity.
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by Imperializt Russia » Mon May 18, 2015 11:34 am
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Mitheldalond » Mon May 18, 2015 1:57 pm
by Husseinarti » Mon May 18, 2015 2:01 pm
Mitheldalond wrote:IIRC from what Nachmere said awhile back, HESH shells will only cause spalling on a plate a maximum of 1.5 times the diameter of the shell. So a 120mm could only cause spalling on a 180mm thick plate at best. Which basically would make every modern tank completely immune to them.
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by Imperializt Russia » Mon May 18, 2015 2:13 pm
Mitheldalond wrote:IIRC from what Nachmere said awhile back, HESH shells will only cause spalling on a plate a maximum of 1.5 times the diameter of the shell. So a 120mm could only cause spalling on a 180mm thick plate at best. Which basically would make every modern tank completely immune to them.
Also, I have at last returned from my long exile to the land of unending homework and finals.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon May 18, 2015 2:41 pm
Estovnia wrote:At least there's no swords here
by Bumfrakistan » Mon May 18, 2015 2:41 pm
Alien Space Bats wrote:Bumfrakistan wrote:In order to achieve a 1 man to 2 women ratio, we fight endless wars.
Well, that's one way of doing it... but then, your economy must be in shambles from the endless damage and destruction these wars cause. So Bumfrackistan is a Third World country, then (or worse)?
And have you taken this into account when it comes to army size (by, say, reducing the size of your armed forces by ⅓)?
by Tulacia » Mon May 18, 2015 2:52 pm
Bumfrakistan wrote:Alien Space Bats wrote:
Well, that's one way of doing it... but then, your economy must be in shambles from the endless damage and destruction these wars cause. So Bumfrackistan is a Third World country, then (or worse)?
And have you taken this into account when it comes to army size (by, say, reducing the size of your armed forces by ⅓)?
we have the economy of 1945 Japan.
One third of all German males served in the Nazi armed forces at one point in time.
8% of all French males died in World War One.
by Velkanika » Mon May 18, 2015 2:57 pm
Bumfrakistan wrote:Alien Space Bats wrote:
Well, that's one way of doing it... but then, your economy must be in shambles from the endless damage and destruction these wars cause. So Bumfrackistan is a Third World country, then (or worse)?
And have you taken this into account when it comes to army size (by, say, reducing the size of your armed forces by ⅓)?
we have the economy of 1945 Japan.
The necessity of a navy, in the restricted sense of the word, springs, therefore, from the existence of a peaceful shipping, and disappears with it, except in the case of a nation which has aggressive tendencies, and keeps up a navy merely as a branch of the military establishment. 1
by United Marxist Nations » Mon May 18, 2015 3:05 pm
The Kievan People wrote: United Marxist Nations: A prayer for every soul, a plan for every economy and a waifu for every man. Solid.
St. John Chrysostom wrote:A comprehended God is no God.
by The Kievan People » Mon May 18, 2015 3:08 pm
New Vihenia wrote:Will IRST make a good early warning sensor for an Active Protection System ? range measurement however is provided by a radar.
by Zeinbrad » Mon May 18, 2015 3:18 pm
by Rupudska » Mon May 18, 2015 3:21 pm
Hladgos wrote:Scantly clad women, more like tanks
seem to be blowing up everyones banks
with airstrikes from girls with wings to their knees
which show a bit more than just their panties
by Licana » Mon May 18, 2015 3:29 pm
Bumfrakistan wrote:Velkanika wrote:
Well, at least you admit your economy sucks.
http://ww2-weapons.com/History/Production/Japan/
Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.
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by Velkanika » Mon May 18, 2015 3:33 pm
Bumfrakistan wrote:Velkanika wrote:
Well, at least you admit your economy sucks.
http://ww2-weapons.com/History/Production/Japan/
Annual strategic raw material production (m. metric tons) | 1939 | 1940 | 1941 | 1942 | 1943 | 1944 | 1945 |
Coal | ? | ? | ? | 61.3 | 60.5 | 51.7 | 11.0 |
Ore | ? | ? | ? | 7.4 | 6.7 | 6.0 | 0.9 |
Steel | ? | ? | ? | 8.0 | 8.8 | 6.5 | 0.8 |
Aluminium (in 1,000 metric tons - especially important for aircraft production) | ? | ? | ? | 103 | 141 | 110 | 7 |
The necessity of a navy, in the restricted sense of the word, springs, therefore, from the existence of a peaceful shipping, and disappears with it, except in the case of a nation which has aggressive tendencies, and keeps up a navy merely as a branch of the military establishment. 1
by The Kievan People » Mon May 18, 2015 3:44 pm
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Can a modern anti-materiel rifle destroy a transport helicopter in flight?
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