Natural selection better get on that a bit faster then.
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by Harelia » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:51 am
by Ifreann » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:55 am
Salus Maior wrote:Ifreann wrote:1.Useful enough to be made the leader. Which doesn't bode well for suggestions that
2.I would have called the country I was invading the right country.
3.Gosh, I guess my rebellion might have to lie and hide and steal. How awful. Clearly I should have let myself be killed.
1. A leader who failed his charge.
2. So, instead of a revolutionary movement your band is an invading horde out to carve land for itself? Have fun being ISIS.
3. I fail to see how any of those helps you, personally. You'd still be under watch by the Dictatorship, and I doubt you could get away with suspicious behavior without shit hitting the fan.
And if you say that your rebellion can function without you, then what's the point of you living and kneeling in the first place?
Urran wrote:I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees. I wouldn't kneel. Id grandly lay down my life for a cause that I believe in.
by The Two Jerseys » Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:34 am
by Dakran » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:51 am
Baltenstein wrote:Source:
The Turkish minister of Turkishness, Öztürk Türkuglu.
by The Nuclear Fist » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:12 am
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
by Ifreann » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:17 am
The Nuclear Fist wrote:If the government is actually arming former rebels and using them to fight, logically it must be pretty desperate for manpower. There's no reason, then, why my group can't just surrender to the enemy en masse, turn our guns on the government immediately, etc.
Hell, even if we do neither, if and when the war is won, we'd have won the war for the dictator and would still have our guns. Thus we could force the dictator to negotiate with us on favorable terms or just depose the regime.
by Infected Mushroom » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:56 am
The Nuclear Fist wrote:If the government is actually arming former rebels and using them to fight, logically it must be pretty desperate for manpower. There's no reason, then, why my group can't just surrender to the enemy en masse, turn our guns on the government immediately, etc.
Hell, even if we do neither, if and when the war is won, we'd have won the war for the dictator and would still have our guns. Thus we could force the dictator to negotiate with us on favorable terms or just depose the regime.
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:05 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:The Nuclear Fist wrote:If the government is actually arming former rebels and using them to fight, logically it must be pretty desperate for manpower. There's no reason, then, why my group can't just surrender to the enemy en masse, turn our guns on the government immediately, etc.
Hell, even if we do neither, if and when the war is won, we'd have won the war for the dictator and would still have our guns. Thus we could force the dictator to negotiate with us on favorable terms or just depose the regime.
where in the OP does it say you will be armed?
It just says you will be used in the war. It doesn't say how. In all likelihood you'd just be used as unarmed fodder to reveal enemy artillery positions or to set off mines.
What you think they'll give you tanks and RPGs?
by Infected Mushroom » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:08 am
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
where in the OP does it say you will be armed?
It just says you will be used in the war. It doesn't say how. In all likelihood you'd just be used as unarmed fodder to reveal enemy artillery positions or to set off mines.
What you think they'll give you tanks and RPGs?
Yeah. It's what Genghis Khan and Nazi Germany did. I doubt this dictator is literally worse than Hitler.
The OP doesn't say you won't be armed.
by Sun Wukong » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:18 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Yeah. It's what Genghis Khan and Nazi Germany did. I doubt this dictator is literally worse than Hitler.
The OP doesn't say you won't be armed.
but because it doesn't say you will be armed, you shouldn't assume it
which is why to make an argument that goes
''Hey I'll be armed so I can betray the dictatorship later'' is a position that not only is dishonourable but also unwise
by Ifreann » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:19 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:The Nuclear Fist wrote:If the government is actually arming former rebels and using them to fight, logically it must be pretty desperate for manpower. There's no reason, then, why my group can't just surrender to the enemy en masse, turn our guns on the government immediately, etc.
Hell, even if we do neither, if and when the war is won, we'd have won the war for the dictator and would still have our guns. Thus we could force the dictator to negotiate with us on favorable terms or just depose the regime.
where in the OP does it say you will be armed?
It just says you will be used in the war. It doesn't say how. In all likelihood you'd just be used as unarmed fodder to reveal enemy artillery positions or to set off mines.
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:24 am
which is why to make an argument that goes
''Hey I'll be armed so I can betray the dictatorship later'' is a position that not only is dishonourable
but also unwise
by Genivaria » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:44 am
Ifreann wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
where in the OP does it say you will be armed?
It just says you will be used in the war. It doesn't say how. In all likelihood you'd just be used as unarmed fodder to reveal enemy artillery positions or to set off mines.
You seem to be assuming considerable stupidity on the part of Stannis Baratheon. Why would he go to the trouble of trying to recruit soldiers he doesn't need?
by Infected Mushroom » Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:00 pm
Ifreann wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
where in the OP does it say you will be armed?
It just says you will be used in the war. It doesn't say how. In all likelihood you'd just be used as unarmed fodder to reveal enemy artillery positions or to set off mines.
You seem to be assuming considerable stupidity on the part of Stannis Baratheon. Why would he go to the trouble of trying to recruit soldiers he doesn't need?
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:17 pm
by Infected Mushroom » Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:48 pm
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:50 pm
by Infected Mushroom » Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:53 pm
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:55 pm
by Sun Wukong » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:02 pm
by The Nuclear Fist » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:31 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:The Nuclear Fist wrote:If the government is actually arming former rebels and using them to fight, logically it must be pretty desperate for manpower. There's no reason, then, why my group can't just surrender to the enemy en masse, turn our guns on the government immediately, etc.
Hell, even if we do neither, if and when the war is won, we'd have won the war for the dictator and would still have our guns. Thus we could force the dictator to negotiate with us on favorable terms or just depose the regime.
where in the OP does it say you will be armed?
It just says you will be used in the war. It doesn't say how. In all likelihood you'd just be used as unarmed fodder to reveal enemy artillery positions or to set off mines.
What you think they'll give you tanks and RPGs?
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
by Infected Mushroom » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:00 pm
by Infected Mushroom » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:05 pm
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
where in the OP does it say you will be armed?
It just says you will be used in the war. It doesn't say how. In all likelihood you'd just be used as unarmed fodder to reveal enemy artillery positions or to set off mines.
What you think they'll give you tanks and RPGs?
I was operating under the assumption that the dictator wasn't completely fucking retarded.
Clearly that was too much to ask for from a Kefka thread.
In all likelihood, if the dictator actually wants a chance at victory, he'd arm us.
But that would work against your honor before reason horseshit, so clearly you meant that that would never happen.
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