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Libraria and Ausitoria
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:03 am

[OOC: Thank you! Note IEn is the Ausitorian equivalent of a royal 'we'. IC:]

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Public Reply to the President of CAPINTERN &c.





As the fourth biggest supporter of CAPINTERN by a wide margin (by annual contributions), having agreed to host a CAPINTERN base, and as a decidedly capitalist nation by disposition and foreign policy, we would like to call into question the basis for these bewilderingly and suspiciously inaccurate accusations.


For a start, these accusations are factually wrong, in that the Ausitorian government was one of the first nations to recognize the change of government in Aravea by recognizing the new government’s voting power in the IFC. The Ausitorian government also refrained from issuing any show of support to the ousted (democratic social-liberal) government, except by demanding open and free elections to avoid the possibility of the post-coup government becoming a fascist or nazi nation, a type which the Capitalist Internationale is and should remain rightly opposed too, as per the second membership requirement.

As for Ausitoria’s foreign policy, it has never been the policy of the Ausitorian government to threaten neighbouring states with nuclear warfare. Presumably this misunderstanding has arisen in light of a much misunderstood memo on the subject (finally becoming better understood in Hemithea), which is an impartial note on the danger of escalation, written shortly after a time when nuclear powers in Hemithea were in grave danger of going to war, and designed primarily to be read by equally impartial members of the strategic intelligentsia. The theory is fairly simple and widely agreed on: in any war, a miscalculation by either side can lead to the war acquiring relatively more importance, and this process can repeat until one side or the other reaches a position whereby they can destroy the other, potentially triggering last-resort responses and the end of life as we know it. It is a very touchy matter for discussion but must be treated with responsibility and maturity while humanity continues to walk the tightrope.

As a result of this memo, Ausitoria has renounced initiating war against any powers capable of posing any strategic threat to Ausitoria, to avoid the mere possibility of miscalculation; and peace has effectively been restored to Hemithea, by reminding all powers of the danger of misunderstandings in a trigger-happy world. War of all sorts and the possibility of escalation has become significantly less likely. We should hope that such a successful communique would have received applause!


Having thus addressed these libelous allegations, if this explanation does not speedily satisfy the curiosity of members, we must move on to consider what possible diplomatic motives might have inspired these ridiculous attacks.


Let us start by reiterating that Ausitoria is a strong supporter of this organization. It is not only a direct supporter, but is also a great supporter of capitalism in the wider sphere, having formed and led a Capitalist Coalition to victory in Hemithea; and even going so far as encouraging several socialist nations in Hemithea to adopt free-market reforms. Ausitoria has sponsored multiple free-trade organizations. This solid capitalist record in itself should put Ausitoria almost beyond reproof.

However, it is also no secret that the government of the recent applicant (perhaps suspiciously rapidly) the Dai Nihon Teikkoku dislikes the Ausitorian government for its relatively liberal brand of capitalism. Nor is it any secret that their government is anti-liberal, fascist, nazi, and racist; frequently declaring their racial superiority and having founding an Asiatic organization based purely on race. Indeed, we are highly surprised by their admittance to this organization. This accusation, also taken in light of Allania’s use of CAPINTERN funds without reference to the wider organization, would seem indicative of a conspiracy, of which the Allanean government is either accidentally or maliciously a party too, and we must question whether that is the direction that fellow Alliance members wishes this Alliance to take.

Capitalists can be naturally divided on a spectrum ranging from the socially liberal to the socially conservative; and then on to fascism and tyranny. Many members of the Capitalist Internationale may not be as socially liberal as Ausitoria, but a prolonged attempt to remove the remaining vestiges of the liberal capitalist wing might be taken as a draconian attempt to divide us Capitalists to the benefit of the totalitarian states that we are supposed to be completely and totally opposed too.


An attempt to drive out liberal capitalists from this alliance and so divide the capitalist camp would not only be terrifically unfair, but it would be terribly unwise.

We therefore trust any dastardly ploy and this absurd accusation will be speedily discontinued and withdrawn.



IEn have the great honour to remain,

His Imperial Highness Richard Henry Kazpia

By Heaven's Command Acting Chattakang Alliance and Confederacy and Wittan Viceroy, and By Ausitoria's Command: Foreign Secretary of the Imperial and Outer and Extended and Indefinite Commonwealth of Libraria, Apraecia, Chattakang, and Ausitoria; Acting Vice President of the International Freedom Coalition; Chair of the Panessos Free Trade Zone; Secretary of State for Intelligence and Statistics for the Confederacy and Association and Allied states of Descisetcetera; Secretary of State for War for the Royal East Ausitorian Commodities Company and the House of Whittin-Greys' Archprincipality; Acting Elected Speaker and Prime Minister of the Panessos and Hemithean Senate; and Acting Head of the Capitalist Association, the Democratic Union, and the Democratic Alliance; &c.; Archduke Terefort, Thakore of Rajhai, Duke of Elephantina in Whinte, &c.; &c.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:29 am

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Dear Richard Henry Kazpia,

I am now going to address your lies directly, even if you are doing great job in spreading lies created by the United Left, which you love so much as your other friends from International "Freedom" Coalition, which became as capitalist organisation and devolved into leftist cesspool that you swim in. For your starters, as evidenced by Aravean news corporation boradcasted the day the coup happened, "This coup attempt comes in the aftermath of riots by members of the Aravean Communist Party and Liberal Socialist Party in response to the controversial and much debated election of Cordelia Randgriz to the position of Primarch" - but of course I do not believe such liar as yourself would even be able to admit that he supported communists acting in alliance with so called LIEberals - who proclaim to be liberals, but de facto differ none from commies. Your first argument fails when you become aware that Gen. Armstrong, woman who removed the leftist government - did so because of gross voter rights violations committed by the socialists, as evidenced by Inyurstan observers and investigators, leftist militants were beating people into voting the leftist parties. Therefore, while claiming to be defender of democracy - you yourself supported groups which stood against what you believe in, at least officially.

Of course it does not concern you that Gen. Armstrong promised to reinstitute elections in Aravea, which she did after your imperialist forces were repelled by brave SACTO soldiers. It does not concern you that both Inyurstan and Nihonese intelligence did a screening on her, checking her connections and ideology - and more than us can testify that Armstrong had nothing to do with fascists or Nazis. In fact, the ousted primarch had connections to Belkan National Socialists - so I believe that if somebody is supporting Nazis, it is you, not us. For you a patriot who rose up to defend his home from as you put it "democratic social-liberal" - I put emphasis on socialist, isn't it something CAPITERN stands against - who actually had nothing to do with capitalism, but more with thieving of people's property through unfair taxes?

And for everybody to hear this; we do not dislike Ausitoria for their supposed "liberal capitalism". Are we socially conservative nation? Yes, we are. But the thing is that Ausitorians are here attacking our pride from who we are. Pan Asianism is not racist; never in our history I claimed that yellow skinned people are somehow superior; in fact, I myself studied on Western University. For Ausitorians ask yourselves; are pan-Europeans nazi or racist? Are Pan slavists fascist bastards? Are people who are proud from who they are while respecting others all those things Ausitorian scum call us here? I do not know when he had learned that Nihon is not a totalitarian state, we have functioning, even tough limited in power parliament. We, the Nihonese are proud of our culture and traditional values of Bushi Do, the warrior's way. The problem is, that Ausitorian leadership is so limited in their view that they can not tell difference between "fascist" and "conservative". I however do not blame people who can not even tell if they are Librarian or Ausitorian. Not to mention your pathetic playing world police by intervening in affairs of other nations just because you do not like their leadership, or threatening to use Nukes because we won't respect legislation which was not voted upon by SACTO members.

According to Ausitorian logic this alliance is "ideologist" because it is based purely on capitalists. Heck - even their own country is racist, because it is based on Librarians or Ausitorians (whichever of those are whatever, there is no real difference between them besides the fact that their leadership is equally incompetent) - and I shall put up their membership of Panessos Community as racist organisation based purely on Panessosians, if we follow this logic. Purpose of the "racist asiatic organisation" was only to protect Asiatic people and ensure integration - not much different from modern inter-governmental structures like EU or ASEAN.

As for supposed attempt to divide people, our closest allies are members of liberal capitalist movement known as Contre-Liberalismo. In fact, who fulfils the goals of CAPITERN more - nation which sacrificed blood of thousands of our sons to stop advancement of red plague around the earth - or is it nation which openly hugs red menace, nation openly cooperating with socialists as long as they claim to be "democratic"?

Answer is simple. Do not let commie huggers deceive you. That is why I believe that all out trade embargo and blockade of Ausitorian trade is needed; we shall not bow nor let those red bastards and their Ausitorian imperialist friends tell what Sons of Nihon shall do!

BANZAI!
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Libraria and Ausitoria
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:24 am

[OOC: Um, can you remove references to RL organizations? And neither the EU or ASEAN are based on race: they're geographic. IC:]

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I reiterate: the Ausitorian government recognized the change of government in Aravea, and only insisted that democracy was maintained. Even though one may disagree with socialists, we must allow them to speak, stand for election, and be roundly defeated, as has happened frequently in my nation.

As for Ausitoria being a socially liberal nation, that does not mean it is not capitalist: it is perfectly common for an economically liberal nation to also be socially liberal. It is even common that nations generally considered socialist, or even notionally communist, are actually capitalists of some variety, although the latter is unfortunately rare.

I have no great interest in exchanging tirades with a nationalist ‘warrior’ culture that even thinks in terms of ‘race’. As if that is the right way of going about defeating socialism!

So instead I should point out that our worlds and views are poles apart, and we do not need to send thousands of innocent lives to die to try to stop communists. Our Foreign Policy hasn’t failed that miserably. No, we successfully turn communists into socialists and turn socialists into liberal capitalists almost without them noticing. You will almost always find peace and trade a far better weapon than war.

Liberal capitalism doesn’t need the weapons of your polluted variant of capitalism to be victorious. All you need do is give them a good example of how nice it is to be a peaceful liberal capitalist nation.

Better to jaw-jaw than war-war.


Anyway, we look forward to much trade and cultural intercourse between our newly allied nations, so very different in our means, and yet so very united in some of our intended ends.

We have the great honour to remain,

His Imperial Highness Richard Henry Kazpia

Foreign Secretary of State for the Imperial Commonwealth of Libraria and Ausitoria &c.; &c.; &c.


P.s. Regarding your planned trade embargo, please read the requirements for member nations.

P.p.s. Perhaps we should start a competition to see which method is better for defeating communist nations? How about 1 point for every person in every communist country you turn into part of a capitalist trade zone?
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Postby Allanea » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:42 am

OOC: I'd like to start by OOC thanking the both of you. It's rare that we have such detailed, quality, diplomatic RP posts in this thread. The post below has some RL references, this is because Allanea has been founded, in part, by American expatriates.

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Official Message from Alexander Blaken-Kazansky, Emperor of Greater Prussia, President of CAPINTERN, and King of Allanea.


Dear friends!

In some ways, both of you are right. His Imperial Highness Richard Henry Kazpia is correct in stating that for its success, CAPINTERN requires a variety of Capitalist nations within it. He is also correct in stating that a trade embargo between CAPINTERN members would violate the terms of the Capitalist Internationale. I would like to request the Shogun to avoid violating the terms of the Capitalist Internationale.

I agree, on the other hand, also with the Shogun in his remarks that absolutely no country - and indeed no individual, including myself - can be described as one hundred percent non-racist. CAPINTERN's exclusion of racist nations refers to nations where discriminatory racism is a part of their ideology, where you would find racial oppression in its overt forms. Post-civil war America of the Reconstruction era, after slavery and before the Jim Crow laws, could have applied and have been accepted in CAPINTERN, for instance. CAPINTERN does not require moral perfection for membership. If it did, CAPINTERN would not have any members at all whatever.

Allanea, that said, is in the middle between your two countries. We are a liberal capitalist country with a large Army and Navy, and we do use war to promote capitalism. As such Allaneans view both of your viewpoints as legitimate.

That said, only one question is truly relevant for this discussion: in the Aravean coup incident, did the Ausitorians support the pro-communist government faction (thus opposing the coup), or did they support the capitalist faction (thus supporting the coup)?

We, by the Grace of the Gods Emperor of Greater Prussia, etc. wish to know the reply to that question before we proceed.

For this purpose, we await a reply from the Hegemony of Aravea.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:39 pm

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Esteemed Leadership of CAPITERN,

As for your request, I believe that best way to solve this problem will be to have some evidences which will shed light on what really happened during Aravean crisis. I therefore request the Inyurstan investigators, who conducted the survey of elections in Aravea checking legitimacy of election of the leftist primarch - as well as Gen. Armstrong, woman currently being member of Aravean Defence Force - to testify and confirm that Ausitorian government, alongside of International "Freedom" Coalition was aware of the nature of people they supported - but did so without problems.

I am also ready to publish intelligence reports from both Section 2 of General Headquarters and Tokkutai (naval intelligence) regarding the Aravean crisis, Cornelia Razgriz's leftist links, and by God, I will do it. We have been monitoring the situation when it begun, and we are devoted to bring preparators to justice.

As for stance of Ausitoria, it has been evidenced countless times that Ausitorian government cares more about social liberalism than capitalism - therefore technically they will accept any socialist as long as he professes to be liberal (we all know how much freedom do socialists allow). And for reference, no embargo was imposed so far, and Nihon is willing to adhere to rules we agree on, and will not be implemented without consent with other CAPITERN nation except Ausitoria.

Again - the problem is not social liberalism of Ausitorian government, but rather it's willingness to hug the leftist. We already seen appeasement in effect once, and Nihon will not let it happen again.



BANZAI!
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:42 pm

[OOC: My great pleasure, although aren't we taking up rather a lot of this thread? Particularly if we all start bringing in witnesses and intelligence reports...? IC:]

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Your Imperial Majesty,

We would regard it as highly unfortunate if it was thought that some biased Shogun knew more about Ausitorian foreign policy than the Ausitorians.

Regarding your question, in the first place, we must question its assumptions. There was no stark division of factions between a capitalist and a communist party. Just because SACTO is dedicated to fighting communists does not mean SACTO members can point at liberals and call them communists, even though some of them might like to wipe out both. As earlier noted, the Ausitorian government was under the impression that the pre-coup government was to some extent capitalist, particularly in light of strict IFC admissions requirements, which do require a level of free enterprise; and in line with reports from Ausitorian and allied businessmen, who may be called upon to give evidence.

But even if the coup party was more capitalist, which was not possible to establish to the satisfaction of His Imperial Majesty's government in light of their bewildering anti-Ausitorian tendencies, the Ausitorian government was one of the first nations to recognize the change of government in Aravea by recognizing the new government’s voting power in the IFC, and supporting and recognizing their right to hold elections, and we should easily be able to provide witnesses to this point from fellow IFC members.

As for our insistence upon allowing social liberals a right to vote, which was the only support we offered, it is customary Ausitorian policy to offer support with strings attached: strings which are invariably capitalist. We can provide, on demand, countless examples of our willful use of such policy: we have made a most admirable habit of forcing nations into trade pacts. Indeed, this policy model is precisely what the Foreign Secretary explained in his reply to the Shogun.

In short, there is nothing anti-capitalist about supporting social liberals to become capitalists: indeed, the reverse.

It should also be evident to all observers of the conflict that the Ausitorian government did not even side with most IFC members in the conflict. We are sure we can provide request that our allies provide supporting evidence about the nature of our discussions at the time, and our decision to withhold support; if you consider our admirable capitalist credentials in other parts of the world somehow insufficient.

We hope that it is now clear even to that bleating Shogun that Ausitoria offered more support to the post-coup government than the pre-coup government, and entirely supported capitalism over communism.



I have the great honour to remain,

Dame Fionna Orpolov,

Permanent Undersecretary of State for the Imperial Commonwealth of Libraria and Ausitoria


P.s. The Prime Minister has asked me whether the Shogun would be kind enough to stop ending his silly speeches with Banzai, as it is getting on his nerves.

P.p.s. The Foreign Secretary has also asked me to ask whether the Shogun would be kind enough to use the time saved to apologize for shooting cyberweapons first and not even getting round to asking questions afterwards.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:45 pm

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Esteemed Leadership of CAPITERN,


For first, I will ask you about what "strict" IFC admission requests are you asking about. IFC, the laughingstock of political landscape, is very well known for having NONE admission standards. Your "strict" admission standards allowed such nations as Krjder and Asigna to get in. Do I have to remind you of Chinese genocide carried by Asignists - which had not stopped them from being accepted into the IFC with Carl Tobin rushing to their defence when they came in conflict with SACTO, and only exposure carried by dual SACTO- IFC members bringing the Asignese crimes into the day's light? IFC is well known for accepting anyone who is claiming to be democratic, and not even bothering to check what this nation is - and so on, why socialists are taking over by it, with your consent and support. After all, I have to remind you of constant arguments erupting in IFC council chamber, Argentarino protecting leftist terrorists from Cuscatlan, Riysa and McNernia (of course the fact that terrorists were being harboured just because they were leftist did not stopped you from giving support to Argentarino)? Right now I can get you members IFC nation which will say that IFC which begun as capitalist organisation was poisoned by socialism and rotten to it's core.

Continuing on, we have two kids of liberals - liberals and LIEberals. LIEberals can be identified by their economical platform, which in fact is nothing else than communism - just renamed. Liberals are people who stand for personal liberty - LIEberal are people who want to carry out state control over market in the name of personal liberty. A snake can change it's skin - does it stop to be snake? No, it never stops to be snake, and that is the problem with what Ausitorians are supporting. The pre-coup government was not capitalist; for first, it came to power by voter threatening and fraud. The only reason why Gen. Armstrong carried her coup was because the left was terrorizing people and they knew that their values - Aravean values - are at stake. For your reference, once both IFC and SACTO withdrew, even more pro-SACTO government has won the elections. You on the other hand, wanted to install a leftist government in Aravea. SACTO could not allow this, so we entered in - ask two Roman carrier groups about price paid by your pawns.

Continuing, I did not seen your "strings" being attached. What I seen was fleet of hired mercenaries being dispatched to Aravea - and even if assuming that you extended this hand - you got no guarantee that they will accept it. Your government is unable to somehow understand that Communism is by definition violent ideology (Liberal Socialist Party and Aravean Commnunist Party were working in coalition and had ideological links). There can not be peace between socialism and capitalism; because it will lead to a) compromise which will satisfy neither or b) strenghening of socialist on your behalf. There can be no free society without free market. What I seen were nuclear threats to SACTO to force us to accept piece of legislation carried by IFC, which adhered to left-wing dabble known as World Assembly which Nihon is not member of, therefore does not need to respect it's laws as sovereign nation.

There can not be, and never will be cooperation between socialist and capitalist. Ausitrian policy does not work, and never will work - because for commies we are by nature greedy capitalist pigs who have to be shot. All that Ausitorians do is to support the reds. Why? About this soon, but for your reference - I had fun seeing your commercial servers crumble under Nihonese cyber attacks.

After Prince-Marshal Kurohito made me commander of Section 2 of General Headquarters, I my first operation was infiltration and breaking of leftist group in Nihon. At first we thought only about communist terrorists - but the deeper we entered, the more communists around we found. As holy memory Joseph McCarthy said "I ensure you that commies are right here in your town" - proven to be true. Even the Nihonese social "democrats" and "social liberals" were very closely linked to communists. There is vast communist conspiracy directed at overthrowing capitalism - but it is not carried by force of arms only. For your reference - there is a thing called information warfare. This is one of most dangerous things that even appeared - because it serves to enslave nation silently. Sun Tzu spoke about it in "the art of war", even formulated 13 rules of this type of war. Commies know this, and they use it. Only small percent of funds of average communist intelligence goes to spying - most goes for subversion of capitalist countries from within. Good example are hippies, ecologists and other plagues during cold war - in fact they were the ones who won Vietnam for communists. This tactic is widely used. A commie can be identified by following ten planks of communism. This planks are (taken from Communist Manifesto): Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose, A heavy progressive or graduated income tax, Abolition of all rights of inheritance, Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels, Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly, Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state, Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan, Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture, Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country, Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production. Nihon fulfils 0 of them - and I wonder how many does Ausitoria?

Why is then Ausitorian government sponsoring the leftist plague?

Or perhaps, it is other way around?

We are aware of existing communist lobby operating under many names, claiming to be many things, but having the same economic ideas in their heads. Nazis, of whom Ausitoria accused us to be inherited symbol of swastika from socialists and based their economic ideas on 10 planks of communism - just if somebody accuses us of being Nazis. However, it was widely evidenced that supposedly capitalist nation, Ausitoria, instead of staring within ranks of capitalist nations supports socialist, even claiming he makes them free market capitalist - knowing that no compromise is possible, as socialists hate everything not revolutionary?

Is it possible that socialists already infiltrated Ausitorian government? Weather Richard Henry Kazpia is simply an useful idiot, a gavnoyed as GRU called them, or an agent of influence of one of many socialist nations around is not known. Considering his level of intelligence I can say it is first - but only God knows that now.

We are aware of commie lobby, and we will watch for it wherever it appears.


BANZAI - MAY ALEXANDRIA BURN!
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:31 am

[OOC: You will no doubt note that Ausitoria's responses are gradually getting signed by more fictitious civil servants, which is of course a subtle insult. IC:]

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The incoherent monologues of this Shogun, this new 'impartial' 'expert' in Ausitorian and IFC policy, grow ever more deranged, desperate, and comical. How he thinks he can understand from afar the affairs in the corridors of power in the core of such organizations is almost beyond the Ausitorian Foreign Policy Office. Presumably since he does not understand us, he has already decided that therefore we must be enemies.

Alas! What a logical fallacy! That he would destroy what he does not understand!


Regarding the capitalist credentials of the IFC, we cannot make too close a comment on secret membership policy, although if the Shogun knew anything at all about the IFC he would have noticed the recent appointment of our very close ally Mizrad to the position of Minister for Admissions; and the government's reconfirmed support of plans - being negotiated by Ausitoria - for free trade arrangements.

We can also repeat our capitalist credentials in no uncertain terms. To claim that Ausitoria is going the way of communism is ludicrous, given our country's dedication to trade from the very moment the nation was established. Even the governing party has stopped calling itself the Liberal Free Traders - the Free Traders bit is simply superfluous in Ausitorian politics.

On the domestic side, any competent examination of the Ausitoria state will reveal that it has been almost entirely privatized, even beyond the level common in most capitalist nations. There is not a single government service (beside impartial elements of law and order and some of the more sensitive departments of state) that are not run entirely privately. Even healthcare and education, something that is in most capitalist nations is provided for by the state, have been given over to the free market.

On the foreign policy side, Ausitoria's activities are all summed up in Ausitoria's Pax Prosperitas policy: capitalism through peace. If the Shogun knew anything at all about our Foreign Policy he would have noticed, even in the last month, the successful free-market trade treaties signed with the nominally socialist nations of Maverica and Loufe in Hemithea.


And in the case of Aravea, where we may not have been able to give more support to the new government than diplomatic recognition of their right to hold elections, how the devil can anyone reasonably expect Ausitoria to have provide more support to the pro-coup government when the pro-coup faction was misguidedly launching full-scale cyberattacks on Ausitoria? Who needs enemies?

Is it really somehow wrong that, finding the coup faction so very anti-Ausitorian, the Ausitorian government set about to influence the anti-coup faction to become both economically and socially liberal? Even in the last year, such policy has noticeably worked in Heilanor and Maverica and Loufe and the Nerod Empire and Fallenrun and Mizrad and Bavungria and Bvordxa and Chattakang and Weislavia and Treneria and the New Lowlands and Erusuia and Idzequitch and Naybra and Feroxi and etcetera and etcetera ad infinitum and ad nauseum...


I conclusion, we do hope that the Shogun will either return to his padded cell, or accept the invitation of the Ausitorian government to come and observe some of the real activities of the Ausitorian state. Only by understanding Ausitoria will he stop cutting such a tragicomedic figure in Alexandrian society.



I have the great honour to giggle,

Lord Albert Sausages

Permanent Deputy Assistant to the Deputy Assistant Undersecretary of State for the Imperial Commonwealth of Libraria and Ausitoria


P.s. The Prime Minister has asked me to thank the Shogun for adding some more nonsense to the end of his speeches, and mentioned that the Alexandrian Fire Department is also privately run, and will no doubt look forward to suing for libel.

P.p.s. The Foreign Secretary has asked me to assure the Shogun that in spite of his government's cyberattacks upon the Ausitorian government, he will be able to travel to Ausitoria without fear of arrest to pick up his award from the Imperial Drama School for Tragic Performance of the Year, in accordance with Ausitoria's arts and science awards diplomatic neutrality convention.
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Postby Fallenrun » Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:01 am

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What you have claimed about Ausitoria and it's policies is utterly absurd and misguided to say the least. Ausitoria's policy on integrating socialist nations into trade zones has been proven twice in recent months. Both Loufe and Maverica have either joined an existing Hemithean trade zone or created a trade pact with Ausitoria. This policy has led to a small increase in capitalistic tendancies in both nations aswell as increasing all nations involved wealth. Through giving them a taste of the wealth many capitalistic nations enjoy Ausitoria is making them more inclined to like, trade and become friends with capitalistic nations (which helps overcome the capitalist phobia many socialist states have) and eventually become more capitalist themselves over time. How is this not in the interest of spreading capitalism?

Your main point seems to be, "They are not blowing up all non capitalists therefore evil." which is pretty ridiculous and needs no rebuttle.

The strategy of forcing change through violence causes more destruction, death and instability than what it is worth. That is why De Rijksfederatie, Ausitoria and many other choose the more peaceful path.

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Postby Allanea » Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:30 am

Ooc: The opinion expressed below is the IC opinion by Alexander Blaken-Kazansky. My opinion is rather the reverse. While Alexander is offended by the IC 'low levels of discourse' in this debate (as the Ausitorians and Nihondai are being rather rude to each other IC), I the player am actually quie overwhelmed by the high quality of RP posts and detailed discussion in the thread. I have held off on posting because I was not prepared for discussion on this level of detail.

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Dear friends!

I am appalled at the low level to which discourse and discussion have sunk in this debacle. We have seen here references to 'lieberals', callings for the burning of Alexandria and the designations of the Nihondai Shogun as 'tragicomedic'. These do not in any way reflect what the spirit of CAPINTERN is supposed to be about. As the President of the Capitalist Internationale, I once more call for civility in this debate.

Let me be absolutely clear: it's entirely possible for a Capitalist nation to have open trade relations, and even friendship, with a Socialist nation. This has never been called into question. In fact, the Free Kingdom of Allanea, the leader-state of the Capitalist Internationale, has worked closely with several self-proclaimed and de-facto socialist states – Osea (Osea 767), Crystal Spires, Lyras, which is a modern-day Sparta – to eradicate the evils of slavery, fascism, Nazism, and genocide. If the Ausitorians have managed free trade deals with numerous socialist states, that is great. If they have through this free trade managed to persuade these socialist states to adopt a measure of free-market policies, then this is wonderful and they are to be saluted.

If only this was the only problem.

But to quote the Bard,

All this is comfort; wherefore weep I then? 
Some word there was, worser than Tybalt's death, 
That murder'd me: I would forget it fain; 
But, O, it presses to my memory, 
Like damned guilty deeds to sinners' minds


That one word is 'Aravea'.

The support of the Ausitorian government to the anti-coup faction in Aravea is deeply problematic. The statements by Fallenrun, while they form a testimony as to Ausitoria's favor in terms of the overall character of its policy – the equivalen, if one may, of a character witness in an individual's trial – do not pertain to the individual case. The fact remains – a fact admitted by the government of Ausitoria – that this government has supported a pro-communist faction in the Aravean Coup Incident.

Having previously denied this fact, the Ausitorians have now moved to stating that they only supported the Communist faction because of a series of cyberattacks by the anti-Communists on the government of Ausitoria. If this is true, what motivated the cyberattacks? Perhaps the government of Aravea can answer the question of why would they just randomly start hacking Ausitorian websites out of the blue.

Further, we are confused as to the privatization issue. We have seen previous reports (Ooc: in older RP posts) that the majority of Ausitorians are employed with the state. Has this changed?

Further, attempts have been made to blackmail Allanean leadership, attempting to 'make public' the already-public facts the we are transferring 500 billion dollars a year to Menelmacar, in part to encourage their participation in the Greater Prussian Alliance, and further to 'make public' the fact that contracts have been awarded to Allanean Arms for manufacture of the Mercury anti-tank guided missile.

This is deeply unconscionable.

1. The purchase of a unique product (no equivalent to the Mercury is manufactured at any of the major arms manufacturers) for a legitimate CAPINTERN need, at a reputable global manufacturer, is an entirely legitimate purchase, as legitimate as the other CAPINTERN arms purchasers at other manufacturers.

2. Expending CAPINTERN money to support a Greater Prussia member state (CAPINTERN is part of Greater Prussia, as is the Confederacy of Sovereign States and the Coalition of Drug Exporting Nations) is a legitimate CAPINTERN expenditure. Menelmacar is a key strategic member of the alliance. Menelmacar is an awesome, advanced civilization. If any nation is so offended by the fact Menelmacar receives CAPINTERN money that it puts them off membership in CAPINTERN, this nation should not be in CAPINTERN and I am happy to see them gone. Glory eternal to the Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar! Glory to the Elven ally! Minë arnanorë nu minë iluvala Elentári!

Any reasonable organization would immediately terminate a member who has attempted to blackmail its leadership. I will not do this, because I am Alexander Blaken-Kazansky. I am just, but I am full of mercy. I merely ask that the attempts to blackmail myself and the CAPINTERN leadership cease forthwith. The organization that carried them out has already affected my opinion of them in a very negative way.

More importantly, in my capacity as the President of the Capitalist International, I am interested in hearing the input of the following governments:

1. The government of Aravea: What was the nature of the relationship between the Ausitorians and the anti-coup faction? Did the coup faction launch cyber-attacks on Libraria and Ausitoria, and if so, for what reason and purpose? What was the ideological composition and nature of the anti-coup faction?

2.The Government of Inyursta: What was the nature of the Ausitorian involvement in this incident, and in previous IFC-SACTO confrontations?

3. The Government of Libraria and Ausitoria: What is the nature of the Librarian and Ausitorian relationship with the anti-coup movement? What is the nature of the Librarian & Ausitorian government itself, what percentage of the workforce in your country is state workers? What is the nature of your involvement in previous IFC-SACTO confrontations and your involvement with the government of Krjder?

These are the key questions. They need to be answer.

That is all.

May the Gods bless CAPINTERN, and may they forever continue to bless Allanea.
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:16 am

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Public Reply to the President of CAPINTERN &c.





With respect, the Prosecution/Judge's key questions - and allegations - are unhelpful to say the least, although his praise of our trading operations and friendship with sensible socialists is much more commendable.


As the fourth biggest supporter of CAPINTERN by a wide margin (by annual contributions), while we have privately inquired with the President of CAPINTERN about why major contributors to the CAPINTERN budget never seem to be consulted on expenditure, we deny all knowledge of the allegations that the President is making of blackmail. He must have misunderstood our completely separate inquiries about the potential lack of accountability in the government. We would also like to formally complain that the fact that we have made confidential inquiries is being published without our consultation, perhaps in an attempt to further stir up anti-Ausitorian sentiment.


Anyway, I will also clarify again that we did not directly support any anti-capitalist faction in Aravea, only supporting Liberals, and only supporting them insofar as supporting their wish to stand for election, and encouraging economically liberal reforms; a result which in any event is projected to result in a Capitalist victory. Ausitoria has never directly supported known Communists, and we cannot be expected to refrain from supporting everybody on the grounds that they might support Communists earlier or later. Can the President honestly say that all of the numerous socialist state he refers too - e.g. Crystal Spires, Osea, and Lyras - have never, in any way, supported a communist faction somewhere; and for that matter never will? If he can, we would like to borrow the time machine ... if he has time.

Assuming most nations currently lack time machines, most nations cannot guarantee that support may never turn out to have been useful to some communists somewhere, or never will. Therefore while the President my illogically demand a clear-cut answer to all these pretty questions, the only reasonable questions are therefore a question of intent. We would get along faster if we didn't have to do the job for the prosecution as well as for the defence.

As for the cyberattacks and diplomatic aggression against our nation and allies by the Coup faction, these are the reason why we did not offer further support to the coup faction beyond diplomatic recognition of their government and their right to hold elections. Quite why the coup faction dislikes Ausitoria should be plain from the ravings of a certain Shogun. Alas, poor Shogun.

In conclusion, the testimony of Fallenrun should be quite sufficient to persuade you that supporting liberals who might one day support communists is a trivial matter more suited to being lost, queried, referred to a referrals committees, and then lost again by some suitably innovative bureaucracy by His Royal Highness Dracula, Private Personal Deputy Assistant Chief Undersecretary of State to the Assistant Private Personal Deputy Chief Secretary to the Deputy Personal Private Chief Assistant Undersecretary of State.


Regarding wider matters, as for the state of the Ausitorian government, evidently we should clarify that it is probable that the reports you have seen are a reference to the Public Sector at some broader interpretation, perhaps including members of forces (such as the army and police), employees of local government, employees of privately run services (such as schools), and employees of private companies employed to provide services to the government (such as IT companies), and employees of charitable and non-for-profit and quasi-non-governmental companies or organizations or associations associated with the government or employed to provide services to or for the government or any combination thereof (such as museum staff). The number of Ausitorian civil servants excluding such categories is less than 1% of the population.


Regarding other queries, our government have naturally previously been in contact with the SACTO alliance and the Kusserijkh of Krjder over various insignificant trade and miscellaneous inquiries typical of nations and organizations. Ausitoria is closely allied to Ghant in SACTO, and via the IFC with various other SACTO members, and have friendly relations with various liberal SACTO members.


As for the sensibilities of SACTO members, we consider it absurd that liberal capitalists in CAPINTERN should be required to show respect to an alliance which as a whole has no membership requirements to keep out fascists, nazis, and racists; barbarians whose admittance should and must continue to be barred from CAPINTERN. Disliking communists does not give anyone a free pass to trample over everybody else, or to associate with such barbarians. It is not lost on us that it is somewhat ironic that we are being considered tainted for merely supporting allowing socialists who might one day associate with communists to stand for election, while dual SACTO-CAPINTERN members are so closely allied with those that CAPINTERN bars from admittance.

In any event, while these barbarians are useful for killing communists, and we do not advise that CAPINTERN expel all members who somehow can stomache being directly allied to such barbarians; if SACTO members could kindly ensure that the fascists, nazis, and war-hungry maniacs among them confine themselves to battling die-hard Communists, then us Liberals will be better able to get on with more productive peaceable capitalist trading operations with nominal socialists of the sort that the President has so sensibly saluted.



IEn have the great honour to remain,

His Imperial Highness Richard Henry Kazpia

By Heaven's Command &c.


P.s. The Prime Minister has told me that the monsoon is due to arrive in Alexandria shortly, so if the Nihonese intend to manipulate the weather from its natural course before trying to burn Alexandria, could they let the meteorological office know so that it can update its forecasts?
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Postby Allanea » Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:38 pm

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My Dear Friends!

What is clear that so far the anti-Ausitorian faction has failed utterly in presenting a viable case against the Ausitorians. While frankly not a big fan, personally, of the Ausitorian way of life, or their behavior towards the Shogun, I am unable to find grounds for their removal from the alliance at this date.

Unless new and conclusive condemning information can be found, I consider this debate to be concluded.
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Postby Aravea » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:08 pm

To the Leaders of the CAPITERN,

I apologize for my late submission of the evidence but things have been rather hectic in my office as of late. In any case it has come to light recently that over the course of the coup and prior to it it has been discovered that the Ausitorian government provided aid to the deposed Primarch Cordelia and organized several riots within the capital of Oured following the election. Naturally this has been discovered thanks to the efforts of the Nihonese government and our fellow SACTO allies. In any case the amount of aid was discovered to be quite substantial ranging from arms to outright bribes to convince neutral units to side with the Ausitorians.

In large part the Ausitorian role in the coup was discovered after members of the INYF election monitoring committee conducted an investigation into the results of the disputed March election. From there they discovered that the Ausitorian government had been supporting their preferred candidate by using funds from shell companies, their embassy, and IFC backchannels. It was their hope that the government of Cordelia Randgriz would be favorable to their interests and be more critical/outright hostile towards Aravea's SACTO allies. Upon seeing that Randgriz was not amenable to their views, the Ausitorian government decided to sow post election chaos by bribing officials in the Liberal Progressive Party and Communist. Party to conduct riots. Needless to say these Ausitorian sponsored riots led directly to the military coup by Northern Command later that day.

In addition to their bribery of Aravean politicians, members of the Ausitorian military were observed to have been sending covert messages to liberal leaning Aravean commanders encouraging them to revolt should the election not swing their way. At the moment our investigation is still ongoing but my office will contact you when we have more details.

Sincerest regards,
Phyrra Nile
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Postby Emmerian Republic » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:11 pm

Aravea wrote:To the Leaders of the CAPITERN,

I apologize for my late submission of the evidence but things have been rather hectic in my office as of late. In any case it has come to light recently that over the course of the coup and prior to it it has been discovered that the Ausitorian government provided aid to the deposed Primarch Cordelia and organized several riots within the capital of Oured following the election. Naturally this has been discovered thanks to the efforts of the Nihonese government and our fellow SACTO allies. In any case the amount of aid was discovered to be quite substantial ranging from arms to outright bribes to convince neutral units to side with the Ausitorians.

In large part the Ausitorian role in the coup was discovered after members of the INYF election monitoring committee conducted an investigation into the results of the disputed March election. From there they discovered that the Ausitorian government had been supporting their preferred candidate by using funds from shell companies, their embassy, and IFC backchannels. It was their hope that the government of Cordelia Randgriz would be favorable to their interests and be more critical/outright hostile towards Aravea's SACTO allies. Upon seeing that Randgriz was not amenable to their views, the Ausitorian government decided to sow post election chaos by bribing officials in the Liberal Progressive Party and Communist. Party to conduct riots. Needless to say these Ausitorian sponsored riots led directly to the military coup by Northern Command later that day.

In addition to their bribery of Aravean politicians, members of the Ausitorian military were observed to have been sending covert messages to liberal leaning Aravean commanders encouraging them to revolt should the election not swing their way. At the moment our investigation is still ongoing but my office will contact you when we have more details.

Sincerest regards,
Phyrra Nile
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Should we take action if necessary?
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Postby Allanea » Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:05 pm

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My Dear Friends!

Having received the belated report of the Aravean govermnent, I have decided as following:

1. One, that Ausitoria is foreverafter removed from CAPINTERN.

2. Second, because Ausitoria's government has threatened to make an issue out of our friendship with Menelmacar, and no doubt with other Greater Prussian nations too, to encourage everyone to realize the role of the Menelmacari and C'tani in Greater Prussia, I hereby order that the full sum of Libraria and Ausitoria's last payment to CAPINTERN ($20 bn Universal Standard Dollars) be divided up as follows:

a. The establishment of a palace for the Lady Sirithil nos Feanor, Inspector-General of Greater Prussia.
b. The establishment of a palace for Her Majesty the Queen of Nova Prussia, Devangi Pancholi Napoleonessa ita Dyvanakh, Arch-Chancellor of the Empire.
c. The distribution of $2,000,000,000 in Ausitorian currency, to 2,000 individuals in Menelmacar and C'tan who performed exceptional services to the Greater Prussian Empire, or are currently performing them - bureaucrats, engineers, military men, investigators etc.

Let it be known across the land that Libraria and Ausitoria is no longer part of the Greater Prussian family. Their councils are not heard in Our halls, their opinions uncared for, their wisdom unheeded.

May the Gods Bless Greater Prussia, and may they forever continue to bless Allanea.
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:08 am

[OOC: I should mention that Aravea's statement is inaccurate, which of course means that Ausitoria is going for damages. Aravea, if you don't want to find increasingly well-armed Ausitorian policemen running all over your nation seizing assets, I'd advise that you either (a) be prepared to pay up or (b) retract the statement (the cheaper option) or (c) diplomatically outmaneuver Ausitoria or (d) retcon.

Regarding the last option, I myself think it unlikely that anybody with an intimate knowledge of Ausitoria would be quite so willing to interfere with their trading network. In any event I suspect you made your IC decision based on your regrettable OOC dislike of me, without considering all the implications; which would be grounds for me to retcon if we can't come to some sort of OOC agreement on how this otherwise interesting RP might pan out. IC:]

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The much-delayed allegations of the Primarch of Aravea are factually inaccurate and the Ausitorian government is certain that such unproved allegations would never have been automatically considered factually accurate by any vaguely competent and trustworthy government. We must therefore call into the question the tenability of the current clearly conspiring leadership of CAPINTERN, and call for the resignation of the current President, who has so clearly flaunted his unfitting partiality in this discussion on so many occasions.

In automatic response, the Ausitorian government has made a claim for libel and damages for the Ausitorian Supreme court to determine, and has in the interim filed for injunctions to freeze all Aravean assets within all jurisdictions.

We would invite the Primarch of Aravea, as the responsible power, to retract his misguided statement promptly. While we have nothing against free speech, libel is another matter and Ausitorian trade with CAPINTERN members was expected over the next five years to average in excess of $15 trillion per annum. While large parts of that trade will no doubt continue uninterrupted via the multitude of trade pacts Ausitoria is a party too, and via other nations, the current total guide price tag for claims, mostly due to immediate disruption to trade, is still estimated at $0.5-3 trillion, excluding any incidental recovery costs incurred. It is only because of the alacrity of the Imperial Commonwealth Bank in calming markets and injecting part of that sum via holdout instruments that the damage is not substantially greater.

The Ausitorian government will ask the Ausitorian courts to provide detailed estimates of charges within a month, assuming that the Aravean government fails to respond. Subsequently they are prepared to provide the government of Aravea with a further month in which to consider whether it has a sufficiently good case to prove its allegations.

If they can prove or retract their statement, they will have nothing to loose except increasing legal costs.
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:25 am

[OOC: Apparently Aravea doesn't actually recognize Ausitoria exists ICly. I assume that means Aravea's post, and all subsequent posts on the subject, are retconned?

Pity - I was starting to enjoy writing up the bill. But at least that restores Ausitoria's trade networks to their proper extent.]
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Postby Aravea » Sun Apr 12, 2015 10:59 am

I am sorry but I will be withdrawing from this alliance as well.
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Postby Emmerian Republic » Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:03 am

Aravea wrote:I am sorry but I will be withdrawing from this alliance as well.

Any reasons?
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Postby Aravea » Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:12 am

Emmerian Republic wrote:
Aravea wrote:I am sorry but I will be withdrawing from this alliance as well.

Any reasons?


Mainly due to it conflicting with my neutrality policy.
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Postby New Nassrau » Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:25 pm

My nation is going to withdraw so my puppet, who actually roleplays, can join, is that okay?
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Postby Emmerian Republic » Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:46 pm

This is an official update on the active members of the CAPINTERN Alliance

Member Nations:
Allanea
Amn Voss
-Bederich- [contributes 1 billion/year]
Bereia [contributes 1 billion/year]
Brydog
Emmerian Republic [contributes 1.3 billion/year]
Ghant [contributes 1 billion/year]
Fallenrun [contributes 2 billion/year]
Free Tuks [contributes 3 billion/year]
Imbrinium [contributes 1 trillion/year]
Itinerate Tree Dweller [contributes 1.5 billion/year]
Jordtopia [contributes 11 billion/year]
Kington Langley [contributes 2.8 billion/year]
Legendardisch [contributes 25 billion/year]
Lolomz [contributes 1 billion/year]
Lucanda [contributes 2 billion/year]
Lubyak [contributes 10 billion/year]
Marzarbul [contributes 1 billion/year]
New Azura [contributes 275.5 billion/year]
The Aspari Syndicate [contributes 10 billion/year]
New Nassrau [contributes 1 billion/year]
The Rich Port [contributes 250 billion/year]
Thermodolia [contributes 1.5 billion/year]
Serbian Soviet Union
Scandova [contributes 2 billion/year]
Urmanian
United States of Conner [contributes 2 billion/year]
Violan[contributes 1 billion/year]
Yohannes[contributes 1 billion/year]


Observers:

Angleter
Takaram
West Aurelia
Khodoristan--TOS
United Earthlings [contributes 25 billion/year]
The Union of the Emmerian Republic

DEFCON LVL

5 [4] 3 2 1

Active Emmerian military personnel: 10,421,707



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Nachmere
Minister
 
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Founded: Feb 18, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Nachmere » Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:32 pm

Nation name: The Kingdom of Nachmere
Views on Capitalism: It is the bee's knees.
Nation population: 5.5 Billion.
WA Government Classification:Capitalist Paradise
Economic level (WA): All-Consuming.
National political party in power: National Minrachist Monarchists(NMM)
Current conflicts: Currently at war with Fatahland
Donation to CMFOU: 500,000,000,000 USD
Level of membership: Full Member
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Allanea » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:56 pm

OOC: I am a bit confused about what has happened in my absence.
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Founded: May 12, 2010
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby New Aeyariss » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:57 pm

Allanea wrote:OOC: I am a bit confused about what has happened in my absence.


OOC: Aravea RECOGNIZES Ausitoria ICly but sees it's government as South Ossetia or Abkhazia is seen by US; as illegitimate state. I consider Ausitorian government terrorist organisation.
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