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Who would you vote for?

Labour
342
20%
Conservatives
346
20%
Ukip
394
23%
Greens
246
14%
Liberal Democrats
149
9%
SNP
77
5%
Plaid Cymru
32
2%
Respect
35
2%
Other (please state)
79
5%
 
Total votes : 1700

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Alyakia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Alyakia » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:59 pm

Enoch Powell, the Conservative anti-immigrant firebrand, is being investigated as an alleged member of a claimed Westminster paedophile network after his name was supplied to police by a senior Anglican bishop.

all hands to battle stations

this is not a drill
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Dejanic
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Postby Dejanic » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:01 pm

Alyakia wrote:Enoch Powell, the Conservative anti-immigrant firebrand, is being investigated as an alleged member of a claimed Westminster paedophile network after his name was supplied to police by a senior Anglican bishop.

all hands to battle stations

this is not a drill

This doesn't surprise me, what an evil bastard.
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:02 pm

Alyakia wrote:Enoch Powell, the Conservative anti-immigrant firebrand, is being investigated as an alleged member of a claimed Westminster paedophile network after his name was supplied to police by a senior Anglican bishop.

all hands to battle stations

this is not a drill


It's like the British government in the '70s and 80s was some sort of pedophile Illuminati-Establishment conspiracy...
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Liberty and Linguistics
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:24 pm

Alyakia wrote:Enoch Powell, the Conservative anti-immigrant firebrand, is being investigated as an alleged member of a claimed Westminster paedophile network after his name was supplied to police by a senior Anglican bishop.

all hands to battle stations

this is not a drill


Powell was a prick. Like Dejanic, I'm not surprised.
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Postby Salandriagado » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:47 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
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150? Maybe in an middle class area, but let's take it. For a single person:

14 000 - 7200 rent = 6 800
55 (food) p/w x 12 months = 2640 = 4 160 left
1200 for Gas & Electricity = 2 960 left
400 for Water = 2 560 left

14 000 - 10 600 allowance = 3400 - 680 (Basic 20%) = 1 880 left
Taking my borough's band A council tax (955 p/a) = 925 left and all basic necessities for life are covered

You will have very little money left over for luxuries, but to call it poverty is just out of touch with reality. You're not going to be freezing in your home, starving 12 - 18 with no water every weekend. Material poverty, perhaps. But 14k p/a is not poverty.

Depending on your priorities, you will still be able to afford telecommunications and probably an insurance of some kind.


For some reason, you assume that everyone is single, that they don't drive, that they don't basically have to have a phone for work (or to get work), and any number of other factors. Transport, for example - in my case, is about £2500 a year.

And as for the idea that £150 is 'middle class' - unless you're a student living in someone's spare bedroom, not really. You just appear to have no idea of what working families in the UK are actually spending - and it sounds like it's deliberate, because you've got an argument you want to make, and you're having to fit 'facts' to it.


By way of an idea of how ridiculous his idea is: I live in a house shared with several others in a very dodgy region of Coventry, and my rent is a shade over £150/week.
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Postby Angleter » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:55 pm

Alyakia wrote:Enoch Powell, the Conservative anti-immigrant firebrand, is being investigated as an alleged member of a claimed Westminster paedophile network after his name was supplied to police by a senior Anglican bishop.

all hands to battle stations

this is not a drill


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Postby Angleter » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:57 pm

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Alyakia wrote:Enoch Powell, the Conservative anti-immigrant firebrand, is being investigated as an alleged member of a claimed Westminster paedophile network after his name was supplied to police by a senior Anglican bishop.

all hands to battle stations

this is not a drill


Powell was a prick. Like Dejanic, I'm not surprised.


I'm fascinated to find that you can now predict whether someone's a paedophile by their political views.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:00 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
For some reason, you assume that everyone is single, that they don't drive, that they don't basically have to have a phone for work (or to get work), and any number of other factors. Transport, for example - in my case, is about £2500 a year.

And as for the idea that £150 is 'middle class' - unless you're a student living in someone's spare bedroom, not really. You just appear to have no idea of what working families in the UK are actually spending - and it sounds like it's deliberate, because you've got an argument you want to make, and you're having to fit 'facts' to it.


By way of an idea of how ridiculous his idea is: I live in a house shared with several others in a very dodgy region of Coventry, and my rent is a shade over £150/week.

Numbers?
How many, approx room size, bills included?

Sorry to pry, but even for private renting, £150 a week sounds like a lot for shared living.
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Alyakia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Alyakia » Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:02 pm

Angleter wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Powell was a prick. Like Dejanic, I'm not surprised.


I'm fascinated to find that you can now predict whether someone's a paedophile by their political views.


to be fair there is a bit of a, how shall we say, trend
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Postby Angleter » Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:14 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Angleter wrote:
I'm fascinated to find that you can now predict whether someone's a paedophile by their political views.


to be fair there is a bit of a, how shall we say, trend


Considering that (as far as I know) the only case that has actually been confirmed is Cyril Smith, I wouldn't go counting any chickens, myself. As for the allegations that have yet to be investigated, here's a few for balance.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:24 pm

Angleter wrote:
Alyakia wrote:
to be fair there is a bit of a, how shall we say, trend


Considering that (as far as I know) the only case that has actually been confirmed is Cyril Smith, I wouldn't go counting any chickens, myself. As for the allegations that have yet to be investigated, here's a few for balance.


you are aware that two of those are the same person? though the underlying point is made.
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Postby Greater-London » Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:32 pm

Dejanic wrote:This doesn't surprise me, what an evil bastard.


Why doesn't it surprise you? I mean up until now the only thing that suggested Enoch Powell was a pedophile was that he was a male public figure from the 60's and 70's - admittedly a frightening number of people in this category are!
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Grave_n_idle » Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:37 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
By way of an idea of how ridiculous his idea is: I live in a house shared with several others in a very dodgy region of Coventry, and my rent is a shade over £150/week.

Numbers?
How many, approx room size, bills included?

Sorry to pry, but even for private renting, £150 a week sounds like a lot for shared living.


Quickly hunted down the report I saw a couple of years ago that cited shared rents in the capital at about £150 p.w., and rents almost everywhere except Ireland in the same sort of range.

Found it: http://www.nus.org.uk/Global/Campaigns/ ... %20WEB.pdf

(It IS a pdf)

Bear in mind, that was a couple of years ago, rents are now higher... and most people in the UK are NOT students renting single rooms.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:59 pm

Labour believes it can win a majority Those days are gone, nobody will be winning a majority here.
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Liberty and Linguistics
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:04 pm

Angleter wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Powell was a prick. Like Dejanic, I'm not surprised.


I'm fascinated to find that you can now predict whether someone's a paedophile by their political views.


I'm merely joking. Who knows if he was a pedophile, I just think that Powell was a prick. Calm down.
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:05 pm

Geilinor wrote:Labour believes it can win a majority Those days are gone, nobody will be winning a majority here.


I find the chances of someone winning a majority low. But, it could happen. We still have more than a month until the election, anything could happen. Farage could overthrow Nicola Sturgeon and become dictator of Scotland, for all we know.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:28 pm

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Labour believes it can win a majority Those days are gone, nobody will be winning a majority here.


Farage could overthrow Nicola Sturgeon and become dictator of Scotland, for all we know.

Now that would be interesting to see. :p
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:33 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Farage could overthrow Nicola Sturgeon and become dictator of Scotland, for all we know.

Now that would be interesting to see. :p


She'd be exiled to the Faroe Islands...Y'know, this could make a great comedy sketch. :p
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Alyakia » Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:05 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRJTai03WoU

ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION

ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION

>being a thatcherite piece of shit and trying to weasel out of admitting it because you know it's political poison
>shitting over PFI and outsourcing in the NHS solely you get to whine about blair (a classic example of right for the wrong reasons)
>refusing to answer whether you want more private involvement in the NHS or privatization because you know its political poison
>using "i think we should it properly!", "i think we should be open to change!", "i'm just opening a debate!", "any party that says we should think differently is shut down" and literally every single phrase you can think of to signal that you basically support the idea of privatizing the NHS without having the balls to say it and give your supporters enough wiggle room to say "nah he totes loves the NHS tho..."
>not actually answering the fucking question
>seriously trying to pretend that your "france does it switzerland does it..." line isn't a statement of blatant support
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Postby Britanno » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:03 am

Angleter wrote:I'm fascinated to find that you can now predict whether someone's a paedophile by their political views.

Less by their political views, more by how much of a cunt they were.
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Postby Arglorand » Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:29 am

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Labour believes it can win a majority Those days are gone, nobody will be winning a majority here.


I find the chances of someone winning a majority low. But, it could happen. We still have more than a month until the election, anything could happen. Farage could overthrow Nicola Sturgeon and become dictator of Scotland, for all we know.

Unlikely. Last time he came to Edinburgh, he got trapped in a pub. :P
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Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Tagmatium » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:28 am

I had a Labour party volunteer come to the door yesterday, and she asked who I was voting for.

I told her I didn't think it was any of her business.

Despite the fact I will likely be voting for that party come the General Election, I really don't like telling people who I plan to vote for. Not because I fear any reaction, I just dislike people asking.

I also regret not being more polite to her.

Oh, well.
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Postby Dejanic » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:32 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tives.html

So now it's SATANIC paedophilia.

I mean they do say Jesus was a Socialist, so racist and bigoted ultra Conservatives=Satanists?
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Postby Tagmatium » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:34 am

Dejanic wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3017207/Enoch-Powell-accused-satanic-sex-abuse-Bishop-Durham-gave-Met-detectives.html

So now it's SATANIC paedophilia.

Cracking.

All we need is more mention of the Illuminati, Freemasons and/or Knights Templar.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:46 am

Arglorand wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
I find the chances of someone winning a majority low. But, it could happen. We still have more than a month until the election, anything could happen. Farage could overthrow Nicola Sturgeon and become dictator of Scotland, for all we know.

Unlikely. Last time he came to Edinburgh, he got trapped in a pub. :P

Hitler got rejected from art school and arrested after a pub brawl.
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