by Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:14 pm
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by Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:24 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:I'm afraid not.
Nowadays, its all about money and votes.
A few RARE individuals have honor (integrity, sticking to a moral code, knowing what is right and wrong, putting the interests of society first and keeping your word)... most don't.
Certainly those in power have dispensed with the notion that honor means anything anymore; they just pay it lip service rhetoric.
by The Underground Movement Union » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:24 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:I'm afraid not.
Nowadays, its all about money and votes.
A few RARE individuals have honor (integrity, sticking to a moral code, knowing what is right and wrong, putting the interests of society first and keeping your word)... most don't.
Certainly those in power have dispensed with the notion that honor means anything anymore; they just pay it lip service rhetoric.
by Infected Mushroom » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:27 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:I'm afraid not.
Nowadays, its all about money and votes.
A few RARE individuals have honor (integrity, sticking to a moral code, knowing what is right and wrong, putting the interests of society first and keeping your word)... most don't.
Certainly those in power have dispensed with the notion that honor means anything anymore; they just pay it lip service rhetoric.
Does honor require all of those attributes, or just some?
by Anglo-California » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:30 pm
by Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:31 pm
Anglo-California wrote:I'd say that overall, people are becoming less honest and less trusting.
by Valkalan » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:31 pm
by Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:33 pm
Valkalan wrote:Every generation seems to have a habit of believing that it's predecessors were paragons of virtue. In the modern world one might feel that honor has been displaced, but I find that this is largely a result of mass media coverage of all of the negative aspects of our time.
by Anglo-California » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:36 pm
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by Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:40 pm
by Valkalan » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:43 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Valkalan wrote:Every generation seems to have a habit of believing that it's predecessors were paragons of virtue. In the modern world one might feel that honor has been displaced, but I find that this is largely a result of mass media coverage of all of the negative aspects of our time.
I rather think that the past was rather terrible and honor often a tool of oppression. Wouldn't this view suggest that a decrease in honor would be positive?
by Infected Mushroom » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:44 pm
Valkalan wrote:Conserative Morality wrote:I rather think that the past was rather terrible and honor often a tool of oppression. Wouldn't this view suggest that a decrease in honor would be positive?
That depends upon your definition of honor. If you mean some archaic standard by which individuals are bound to obey the whims of prevailing cultural norms, then we can certainly conclude that a decline in honor is a benefit.
by -The West Coast- » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:44 pm
by Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:45 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:i'm thinking of honor in the sense of standing up for truth, justice, and righteousness regardless of the costs.
When I hear ''honor'' I think Eddard Stark...
by Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:46 pm
-The West Coast- wrote:Honor is definitely something I cherish. Its what defines me as a man in my opinion and without it you're nothing in this world. If you have no honor who could trust you or befriend you?
by -The West Coast- » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:47 pm
by Olivaero » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:47 pm
by Infected Mushroom » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:48 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:i'm thinking of honor in the sense of standing up for truth, justice, and righteousness regardless of the costs.
When I hear ''honor'' I think Eddard Stark...
An idiot who died and plunged a nation into a brutal and bloody civil war for the sake of himself?
Not encouraging.
Truth is without inherent moral value. Justice is not always practical. Righteousness is the shield of every fanatic.
by Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:52 pm
-The West Coast- wrote:I don't understand.
by Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:55 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:he could have succeeded if one man did not betray him...
what mattered was that he did what was right, he had the back bone.
Unfortunately, the same can't be said of many modern individuals.
by Valkalan » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:58 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:Valkalan wrote:That depends upon your definition of honor. If you mean some archaic standard by which individuals are bound to obey the whims of prevailing cultural norms, then we can certainly conclude that a decline in honor is a benefit.
i'm thinking of honor in the sense of standing up for truth, justice, and righteousness regardless of the costs.
When I hear ''honor'' I think Eddard Stark...
by Lydenburg » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:41 am
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